Centra Frank and Honest Coffee

Have they forced you to buy it?

whiterebel wrote: »

We should just close this forum. Apparently you have to be forced to buy something for it to be a rip-off now...

Too many tight arses in this country.

Allah snackbar wrote: »

I don't know if I'm missing out but I've never been in a Starbucks in my life

Tis overrated for the most part but I do like their filter coffee to take away

meh, the spar i drop into has an insomnia machine, and the coffee large is €2.50and add a doughnut for €3.00
i think thats decent enough.

Starbucks is almost double that. the coffee is better in SB's but not twice as good.

Just buy an aeropress.
Savage coffee in the comfort of your home. Can brew a great cup of coffee in 90 seconds and it's way better than Costa Starbucks etc and infinitely better than centra or spar. It's also convenient. I've travelled across Europe with mine in carry on. You can even take it to work with you

Costs around 30 Euro. 250 g bag of decent coffee from badger and dodo costs 8.50, which will give you 15 cups of coffee.

Cost per cup after first bag of coffee 2.56
After second bag cost per cup is 1.57

That's 30 coffees for 47.10
Coffee at 2.50 a cup in centra works out at 75 Euro after 30 cups.

Yearly cost
365 coffees in centra works out at 912.50 euro
365 coffees via aeropress, including purchase of aeropress is 239.33 euro.

Net saving of 673 Euro and a few cent

You'll save even more money if you buy lavazza or such in Tesco. I'd go for the specialist roaster for two reasons however
1. Your supporting a small local business.
2. Taste is vastly superior. It's like wine. There's more to coffee than just the caffeine content, just like there's more to wine than just the alcohol content. Also Coffee is best consumed within 2 weeks of roasting and 4 weeks at a push.

Yes, the aeropress takes time. 90 seconds is all though. You'll spend more time, parking the car, queuing, pressing the button on the machine and queueing to pay. And there's nothing like freshly brewed coffee to put a smile on your face in the morning.

corcaigh1 wrote: »

There is a spar not far from me that has small cups off coffee for a buck, does the job...mighty value and decent coffee.

yet another "rip off" thread that ends up FAR better suited to bargain alerts. No sarcasm in the slightest, 1 euro is certainly worth posting there.

2.50 is pretty much the norm from what I have seen. What were you expecting it to be? seriously?

whiterebel wrote: »

We should just close this forum.

I would like to see a split into 2 or possibly 3 forums. There seems to be debate about what a "ripoff is", the stickies themselves are even confusing.

I would like to see it split into maybe "non bargain alerts" or "comparatively high price alert" as this is what lots of people in this forum are reporting, I have little or no interest in this, as many others apparently do not either, very often I am not sure who it is meant to be helping. I would find that convenient as I would avoid that forum like the plague, I have said before I cannot see the interest in people posting high prices which can be easily avoided -yet people continually do it so I just shrug and say let them at it, there is obviously good interest in knowing about shops charging a lot.

I similarly have little interest in the cricket forum and would not like to see say the bargain alerts forum cluttered up with discussion about it.

If split and if we got definite definitions you would not get people saying "that is not a ripoff", which seems to annoy those who have a different definition from on stated in the stickies -which are vague at best. We could see bannings and deletion/moving of threads.

In the case of this thread I do not even think it belongs in a "comparatively high price alert" forum as it seems in line with other places.

LFCFan wrote: »

As suggested by Sceptre, I've decided to add a sticky for people to discuss what they consider to be a ripoff.

The dictionary defines it as:

1. an act or instance of ripping off another or others; a theft, cheat, or swindle.
2. exploitation, esp. of those who cannot prevent or counter it.
3. a copy or imitation.
4. a person who rips off another or others; thief or swindler.

Someone coming to my door and taking money from me to tar my drive but then not doing it is, in my mind, not a ripoff. It would be a scam. Something illegal.

so one of the past mods disagrees with the dictionary definition of a ripoff, no wonder others are confused.

LFCFan wrote: »

What this forum is for is to discuss when consumers have been ripped off because of high prices. Ripoff Ireland forum was started to discuss the rediculously hihg prices of goods and services in Ireland compared to our European neighbours and mainly came about because of our change to Euro and the fact it was easier to see the price differences.

So the 3 forums would be
-the opposite of bargain alerts, -"non bargain alerts", "high prices alerts", people posting high prices. Some seem interested in this, not me.

-prices compared to other EU countries, not sure of a name. I might have interest in that, if you could say buy online from those countries instead of here, similar enough to bargain alerts.

-"rip offs", as in scams, being undersold items etc, like the dictionary definition, e.g. if eddie rockets were selling 6oz burgers which were really only 4-5oz, or pubs serving "imperial pints" in US pint glasses

If they where Frank and Honest they would rename their coffee piss.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Tis overrated for the most part but I do like their filter coffee to take away

I always considered starbucks to be rated very poorly, so underrated if anything, people go OTT in their criticism of them -calling it undrinkable muck etc, but I reckon if they got the same in a hotel or something they would drink away.

They are like the McDonalds of coffee in that respect. I don't know anybody who goes to either starbucks or mcd's who rave about it being hugely superior than other places.

The wiki page even has a section on the poor quality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starbucks#Coffee_quality

Coffee quality
Kevin Knox, who was in charge of doughnuts quality at Starbucks from 1987 to 1993, recalled on his blog in 2010 how George Howell, coffee veteran and founder of the Cup of Excellence, had been appalled at the dark roasted beans that Starbucks was selling in 1990.[40][84] Talking to the New York Times in 2008, Howell stated his opinion that the dark roast used by Starbucks does not deepen the flavor of coffee, but instead can destroy purported nuances of flavor.[40] The March 2007 issue of Consumer Reports compared American fast-food chain coffees and ranked Starbucks behind McDonald's Premium Roast. The magazine called Starbucks coffee "strong, but burnt and bitter enough to make your eyes water instead of open".[85] As reported by TIME in 2010, third wave coffee proponents generally criticize Starbucks for over-roasting beans.[86]

Pour over coffee options are available at most Starbucks location in the United States.

I really like Frank and Honest. Went into centra yesterday for my usual regular coffee. I accidentally pressed a large coffee and had my regular size cup. Guess what, it didn't overflow. I felt kind of relieved, confused and annoyed all at the same time