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04-09-2020, 17:31   #31
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I don't want to put anybody off. Don't not do something because some guy on the Internet had a negative experience. I just think it's important that both sides get represented.

I went to college as a Mature student. Not too mature, I think I finished at 31. Finished with a very decent GPA, missed out on first class honours late on. Had tons of exam exemptions, more than any other 3rd level course in the country at the time.

I went on a few interviews for a trainee after college and found that the tone of the interview changed after I revealed my age. I get the impression that they want somebody that is in their early 20s, full of energy and will work every hour God sends. And to be fair, they are probably right.

I spent over 10k of my own money going to college, had hardly a penny to my name in these years for anything else bar fees, books and travel. Obviously it was the biggest waste of money I have or ever will spend but it was the time wasted that I'll never get back. I finished college over 4 Years ago and even haven't applied for any sort of financial job in about 2 years.

There are lots of positive story's, I'm sure. And good experience in another industry is huge.

Again, I'm just one person. But it's important to get all sides of it.
What did you end up doing instead? That sounds like a very bad experience, hope things are working out for you
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What did you end up doing instead? That sounds like a very bad experience, hope things are working out for you
I got a job in retail, of which the place closed down a few months back. So currently unemployed and looking for a job. I don't even have my degree on my CV anymore
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I got a job in retail, of which the place closed down a few months back. So currently unemployed and looking for a job. I don't even have my degree on my CV anymore
It is quite tough to get a traineeship, but if you can manage it, it gets easier after the 1st year.

Maybe try small accountancy practices and industry?

In the meantime trial the online packages, try some practice accounts, download safe accounts production, try with sample questions to build accounts & put that on the cv.

Hope it works out for you.
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I got a job in retail, of which the place closed down a few months back. So currently unemployed and looking for a job. I don't even have my degree on my CV anymore
You shoiud put it on again - it shows hrd wirk and determination & people adknowledge that .

OP I totally retrained TWICE and didn’t regret it. I do have to manage ‘those’ questions in interview and still havn’t found what I’m looking for but it is feasible. Have you looked at funding for retraining from TR1 - EU/HEA funded courses. I am sure there are some accountancy pathways there which would at least save you thousands in fees? Although not springboard courses bizzarely they are on the springboard website - just filter your search or you’ll be there all day. There are definately EU/state funded ACCA courses as well as some ATI courses there - if you have a degree alteady I would hust start the ACCA one and not bother adding 2 years of ATI exams just to get exemptions from a few of the ACCA modules - not a productive trade off at this stage of your life and experience.

You say you want a quick way out from your current job - why is this? And why accountancy specifically?
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To hop in on this thread, much like an above poster, I've 10 years experience as a Chartered Civil Engineer but looking for a career change.

I'm on the brink of enrolling in the ACA CAP1 Flexible route as a way of 'hedging my bets'. It would allow me to keep my current job and salary while deciding if I'm definitely interested in accountancy. Ultimately I think I'd enjoy a career as a tax advisor, but it's difficult to know for sure.

My thinking is that even if I don't pursue an accountancy career, the CAP1 education/exemption will stand well to me regardless of what career I choose. I work pretty long hours at the minute, but with a new baby, the early career working hours in audit seem unfeasible.

Any advice on whether my reasoning is sound and the ACA flexible route is the best option?
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To hop in on this thread, much like an above poster, I've 10 years experience as a Chartered Civil Engineer but looking for a career change.

I'm on the brink of enrolling in the ACA CAP1 Flexible route as a way of 'hedging my bets'. It would allow me to keep my current job and salary while deciding if I'm definitely interested in accountancy. Ultimately I think I'd enjoy a career as a tax advisor, but it's difficult to know for sure.

My thinking is that even if I don't pursue an accountancy career, the CAP1 education/exemption will stand well to me regardless of what career I choose. I work pretty long hours at the minute, but with a new baby, the early career working hours in audit seem unfeasible.

Any advice on whether my reasoning is sound and the ACA flexible route is the best option?
Flex route is fine, but you will not get the required education for the audit qualification, but then you probably won't need it.


You will need to get the 3.5 years work experience though regardless and it is usually only the bigger firms that require crazy hours.
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Flex route is fine, but you will not get the required education for the audit qualification, but then you probably won't need it.


You will need to get the 3.5 years work experience though regardless and it is usually only the bigger firms that require crazy hours.
Thanks very much - Is ACA the best option in my case, or would another body be better suited?
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Thanks very much - Is ACA the best option in my case, or would another body be better suited?
I switched from software to accountancy, I went with CIMA. It sounds like ACCA would be more suitable for you if you wish to pursue a career in taxation and continue working in your engineering role. But if you were prepared to pack in your current role, I would suggest going down the ACA route with an accountancy firm of any size.
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I switched from software to accountancy, I went with CIMA. It sounds like ACCA would be more suitable for you if you wish to pursue a career in taxation and continue working in your engineering role. But if you were prepared to pack in your current role, I would suggest going down the ACA route with an accountancy firm of any size.
Thanks very much - a bit for me to think about!

I might ask here on another thread, but has anyone gone through the ACCA route while working? The process doesn't seem all that clear when compared to the ACA flexible route.
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Thanks very much - a bit for me to think about!

I might ask here on another thread, but has anyone gone through the ACCA route while working? The process doesn't seem all that clear when compared to the ACA flexible route.

Most do. But, ACA a fine choice also.
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Thanks very much - Is ACA the best option in my case, or would another body be better suited?
it actually very much depends on what you want to end up doing.

Round up as I see it:

Practice = ACA, ACCA or CPA. All require work experience of about 3.5 years. ACA requires 1 years work experience before entering FAE and have exam sittings with all subjects examined over a week. ACCA generally have exams every 3 months.

Industry- ACA, ACCA, CPA (all the same as above) but also CIMA - no experience.

With either option, the qualification is only the knowledge, there is skill involved not focused on in courses self checking work, working accurately, various software used, recognition of common issues, good sense of what seems right. It is the latter employers value most and hence, many employers will require some experience before considering you for any role above entry. The education does not make much difference if you are expected to post invoices, reconcile banks, post journals, make assumptions, etc.

I would recommend if you want to pursue accountancy to do the 1st year of any course and then look for a role while doing this. You would really need the work experience as well. But practice with the accounting packages you can trial for free. Any little angle may help when looking for a role.

Multinationals often seek qualified accountants for entry roles and some look for big 4 experience (or at least recruitment agent advertise mysterious unnamed roles seeking the same). So bear that in mind as well.
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Thanks for the replies all. Think I'll opt against ACA at the last minute as ACCA seems to offer more flexibility with exam sittings - an important consideration when trying to keep a busy family and busy work life in balance.
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Thanks for the replies all. Think I'll opt against ACA at the last minute as ACCA seems to offer more flexibility with exam sittings - an important consideration when trying to keep a busy family and busy work life in balance.
Welcome to the club. Like Indy you have chosen wisely.

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