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JohnnyFlash · 08-09-2019 2:44pm

The Sunday Independent is a good newspaper, and represents the views of a large number of people in this country. That’s why it’s the paper with the biggest sales and circulation. Lot of republican sorts hate that, and thus there’s a view that it’s a rag. It’s a paper that tiles then up something fierce.

Paddy Cow · 08-09-2019 3:00pm

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

In terms of Americanisations it’s the adoption of their cultural ideas rather than language that’s the issue.

The worst one that seems to be creeping around the world is cultural appropriation.

Tony EH · 08-09-2019 3:06pm

BDI wrote: »

The Americanization of the world is embarrassing.

Why do people mow their lawn now instead of cutting their grass.

"Mow" is taken from an old English word originally taken from a Scandinavian word brought by the Vikings.

Predates American usage by a few hundred years.

Mad_maxx · 08-09-2019 5:31pm

In every aspect of irish life, women have it better than men

09-09-2019 10:41am

Paddy Cow wrote: »

It's ok to embarrass yourself when you're abroad and no one knows who you are but would you strut around the streets of Ireland with white socks and sandals? That's basically social suicide

Whoa there Nelly......nobody ever said those socks had to be white.

BDI wrote: »

The Americanization of the world is embarrassing.

The irony of using the American spelling in this sentence is astounding.

Mad_maxx · 09-09-2019 10:43am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The Sunday Independent is a good newspaper, and represents the views of a large number of people in this country. That’s why it’s the paper with the biggest sales and circulation. Lot of republican sorts hate that, and thus there’s a view that it’s a rag. It’s a paper that tiles then up something fierce.

It employs eoghan Harris, that alone renders it a poor excuse for toilet paper

Captain_Crash · 09-09-2019 10:49am

Penny's is sh*te! It might be cheap as chips but you get terrible value for money and the clothing quality is dreadful! Tesco is similarly priced and offer far superior items which last!

Anus Von Skidmark · 09-09-2019 10:49am

vriesmays wrote: »

Irish Rail are a disgrace with their new posters. Does Nigeria Rail use middle-class black and white couples in their ads.

Should we all be racist now, Father? What's the official line the church is taking on this? Only, the farm takes up most of the day, and at night I just like a cup of tea, so I might not be able to devote meself full-time to the old racism.

is_that_so · 09-09-2019 10:53am

Deleted User wrote: »

Whoa there Nelly......nobody ever said those socks had to be white.

The irony of using the American spelling in this sentence is astounding.

Technically 'z' is the older form , coming as it did from Latin, which used 'z'. You can blame the French for the preference for 's'! Initial attempts at clearing up spelling in English just opted for the most popular form or current wordlists. Given the influence on English of French for a good three centuries the 's' would have been more prominent. So we prefer 's' and those across the pond the other form.

is_that_so · 09-09-2019 10:56am

Captain_Crash wrote: »

Penny's is sh*te! It might be cheap as chips but you get terrible value for money and the clothing quality is dreadful! Tesco is similarly priced and offer far superior items which last!

If you know that you'll get 4-5 washes out of a €3 top then it's a good deal. They have a main demographic of people who are very price sensitive.

09-09-2019 12:51pm

is_that_so wrote: »

Technically 'z' is the older form , coming as it did from Latin, which used 'z'. You can blame the French for the preference for 's'! Initial attempts at clearing up spelling in English just opted for the most popular form or current wordlists. Given the influence on English of French for a good three centuries the 's' would have been more prominent. So we prefer 's' and those across the pond the other form.

Soooo, in summary.......we spell it "Americanisation" and the US spell it "Americanization".

Using the American spelling to give out about everything being too American is so astonishingly lacking in self-awareness that it is bordering on taking the pi$$.

sbsquarepants · 09-09-2019 1:24pm

BDI wrote: »

Why do people mow their lawn now instead of cutting their grass. I’m waiting for the day I hear somebody say faucet, that’ll be the time I give up on any national pride.
.

A few times recently i've heard people mention parking lots.

Really irritates me for some reason!

partyguinness · 09-09-2019 1:49pm

interactive wrote: »

Every time i see a woman with long face nails, i wonder how do they wipe there ass?
I imagine the unimaginable under the nails

Do you know what? I never ever considered that but now I will. Thanks...:(

Turquoise Hexagon Sun · 09-09-2019 2:00pm

vriesmays wrote: »

Irish Rail are a disgrace with their new posters. Does Nigeria Rail use middle-class black and white couples in their ads.

This is going to be unpopular but I'll try defend what I think he's on about.

I think it's the double-standard. Media in the west will bend over backwards for inclusion. If you watch some TV adverts in the US, you might mistaken the black population in the US to be around 40-50%. When actuality, the black population in the USA is around 12%.

But do you think in China there are outrage mobs of white people protesting about representation of whites in TV and film? I suspect not. When you reverse it and think about it, it seems absurd, really.

So, going back to the point that vriesmays is making. I hardly doubt that in Nigeria, there's pressure for whites to be represented in their TV ads etc. I just can't see white people or Chinese lads in Nigeria throwing a hissy fit because Whang, Zhang, or Fiachra aren't represented like everyone else their advertising.

My own opinion is that, if you can include people from all backgrounds, great. But some times, it's a bit cringey the lengths people go to try be inclusive to the point where it's not even a representation of reality. They're just hitting quotas, even if it's skews the actual reality of things.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 09-09-2019 2:16pm

Turquoise Hexagon Sun wrote: »

This is going to be unpopular but I'll try defend what I think he's on about.

I think it's the double-standard. Media in the west will bend over backwards for inclusion. If you watch some TV adverts in the US, you might mistaken the black population in the US to be around 40-50%. When actuality, the black population in the USA is around 12%.

But do you think in China there are outrage mobs of white people protesting about representation of whites in TV and film? I suspect not. When you reverse it and think about it, it seems absurd, really.

China doesn't really have much of a white population at all, so obviously not.

Incidentally, East Asians are horribly racist. I wouldn't want to copy their approach on the issue.

gormdubhgorm · 09-09-2019 2:20pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Soooo, in summary.......we spell it "Americanisation" and the US spell it "Americanization".

Using the American spelling to give out about everything being too American is so astonishingly lacking in self-awareness that it is bordering on taking the pi$$.

I always find that funny people have got so used to seeing the 'z's' in stead of 's's' they think z was always the way.
I blame auto-correct!

BDI · 09-09-2019 2:23pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I always find that funny people have got so used to seeing the 'z's' in stead of 's's' they think z was always the way.
I blame auto-correct!

Predictive text makes it a z

partyguinness · 09-09-2019 2:23pm

Funnily enough, if you do not use 'z' then Boards flags it up as a misspelling. Well, with me anyway.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 09-09-2019 2:59pm

partyguinness wrote: »

Funnily enough, if you do not use 'z' then Boards flags it up as a misspelling. Well, with me anyway.

Isn’t that a computer/phone setting?

Sardonicat · 09-09-2019 3:55pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Using the American spelling to give out about everything being too American is so astonishingly lacking in self-awareness that it is bordering on taking the pi$$.

Taking the pizz?

09-09-2019 6:27pm

Turquoise Hexagon Sun wrote: »

But do you think in China there are outrage mobs of white people protesting about representation of whites in TV and film? I suspect not. When you reverse it and think about it, it seems absurd, really.

So, going back to the point that vriesmays is making. I hardly doubt that in Nigeria, there's pressure for whites to be represented in their TV ads etc. I just can't see white people or Chinese lads in Nigeria throwing a hissy fit because Whang, Zhang, or Fiachra aren't represented like everyone else their advertising.

The thing is, though, there aren't hordes of black people in Ireland (or the USA for that matter) protesting about or waiting to be outraged by a lack of multiculturalism in Lidl ads.

This is something brought about by the companies themselves, in a feeble effort to appear down with the kids. Maybe it's a fear of being branded as racist or whatever, but it is, by and large, self initiated. The vast, vast, vast majority of people couldn't give a monkeys (careful now!) about this crap.

Twitter and Tumblr and the likes have given these idiots a platform and a sense that they are not alone, when the reality is that 2000 people out of 5 million is sufficiently insignificant to not be pandering to their manufactured outrage. Especially when there are 10,000 times as many who disagree but couldn't be arsed making sure everyone else knows what they think.

The media have a lot to answer for by highlighting everything and painting it in a positive light, as if it's all great. A lot of the huffing and puffing about social injustice is bordering on mental illness and these lightning rods for offence need help, not indulgence.

Someone posted a picture of a guy on a plane with a horse the other day. If you can't get on a plane without your emotional support pony, then you have a lot bigger problems than getting from A to B.

BDI · 09-09-2019 6:30pm

Maybe global corporations want the working class to mix race. This will end racism or allow more integration and free movement of the workforce.
Or whatever who knows.
If you don’t want to be in a mixed race couple get a partner the same race as you. That’s really all the worrying you should do about it.

Paddy Cow · 09-09-2019 6:54pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Whoa there Nelly......nobody ever said those socks had to be white.

You can change white for any colour and it's still woeful.

Deleted User wrote: »

The irony of using the American spelling in this sentence is astounding.

Whoosh!

Paddy Cow · 09-09-2019 6:56pm

BDI wrote: »

Maybe global corporations want the working class to mix race. This will end racism or allow more integration and free movement of the workforce.
Or whatever who knows.
If you don’t want to be in a mixed race couple get a partner the same race as you. That’s really all the worrying you should do about it.

They don't want to end racism. They want people to be divided and at each other's throats so they don't look up and question what the 1% are doing.

09-09-2019 7:32pm

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Whoosh!

Aha, so you were taking the pizz. In my defence, boards is impossible to read at times. I've been carded for expressing that exact opinion before.

Good job though.

Jmsg · 09-09-2019 8:28pm

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

China doesn't really have much of a white population at all, so obviously not.

Incidentally, East Asians are horribly racist. I wouldn't want to copy their approach on the issue.

"Racism" is only a legitimate concept within a multi-cultural societal framework which East Asia doesn't have. It's really an expression of in-group preference which is a positive thing. One's care and camaraderie can only extend so far. That humans have managed to devise and adapt to ethnocentric nations is itself a miracle. Globaised multi-cultural hubs, which is what our nations in the west are quickly being transformed into, are maladaptive and cause chaos and a handicapping of the social order.

Paddy Cow · 09-09-2019 8:48pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Aha, so you were taking the pizz. In my defence, boards is impossible to read at times. I've been carded for expressing that exact opinion before.

Good job though.

Nah. It wasn't me taking the pizz. The original poster who went on a rant about Americans, started it with a very American spelling. He was the one taking the pizz. The point I was making was that his "Americanism" was deliberate

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 09-09-2019 8:50pm

Jmsg wrote: »

"Racism" is only a legitimate concept within a multi-cultural societal framework which East Asia doesn't have. It's really an expression of in-group preference which is a positive thing. One's care and camaraderie can only extend so far. That humans have managed to devise and adapt to ethnocentric nations is itself a miracle. Globaised multi-cultural hubs, which is what our nations in the west are quickly being transformed into, are maladaptive and cause chaos and a handicapping of the social order.

Yeah, ok. The Koreans shouting abuse at Mongolian and Vietnamese immigrants, and telling Indians they smell bad are dead right.

BDI · 09-09-2019 8:55pm

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

Yeah, ok. The Koreans shouting abuse at Mongolian and Vietnamese immigrants, and telling Indians they smell bad are dead right.

Well that is an unpopular opinion in India.

Paddy Cow · 10-09-2019 3:07am

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

Yeah, ok. The Koreans shouting abuse at Mongolian and Vietnamese immigrants, and telling Indians they smell bad are dead right.

Of course they are. The Koreans are only encouraging the Mongolians and Vietnamese to be their best selves!

Tony EH · 10-09-2019 8:54am

partyguinness wrote: »

Funnily enough, if you do not use 'z' then Boards flags it up as a misspelling. Well, with me anyway.

If you use Firefox, you can install a "British English" dictionary.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/british-english-dictionary-2/

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 11-09-2019 5:37pm

It's an excellent time to be a landlord, just choose your tenants wisely. So many whingers on boards about how getting passive income (with some work involved is so difficult)

vriesmays · 11-09-2019 5:50pm

The only native Irish you'll see in Dublin City centre are the homeless.

BDI · 11-09-2019 6:29pm

vriesmays wrote: »

The only native Irish you'll see in Dublin City centre are the homeless.

I cycle through it everyday

mr_fegelien · 11-09-2019 7:24pm

vriesmays wrote: »

The only native Irish you'll see in Dublin City centre are the homeless.

I don't get it, do you mean Irish travellers/gypsies?

Funny though that I must admit I've never seen a homeless black lad.

mr_fegelien · 13-09-2019 8:46am

I don't know whether this is an opinion so much as an uncomfortable truth. The average lifestyle in the West depends entirely on someone getting the short end of the stick in most of the third world countries.

Whether it's clothes shops in SE Asia, technology products in China or bananas/chocolate in Africa/South America, these people are essentially slaves.

the beer revolu · 13-09-2019 10:11am

There should be no tax cuts in the upcoming budget.

is_that_so · 13-09-2019 10:13am

the beer revolu wrote: »

There should be no tax cuts in the upcoming budget.

I think that's actually become an overwhelmingly popular opinion, given Brexit!

the beer revolu · 13-09-2019 10:28am

is_that_so wrote: »

I think that's actually become an overwhelmingly popular opinion, given Brexit!

Nope. The "squeezed middle" still want their break.

partyguinness · 13-09-2019 10:36am

mr_fegelien wrote: »

I don't know whether this is an opinion so much as an uncomfortable truth. The average lifestyle in the West depends entirely on someone getting the short end of the stick in most of the third world countries.

Whether it's clothes shops in SE Asia, technology products in China or bananas/chocolate in Africa/South America, these people are essentially slaves.

Well, the danger here is that you are looking at the conditions in those countries with Western standards.

It is a fact that need for coffee, cocoa bean, cheap clothes has lifted tens of millions (if not hundreds) out of dire poverty in third world countries.

Lets say for arguments sake, that the West decided to cut consumption by 50%. What effect would that have?

When a new clothes factory opens in Bangladesh etc there is a near riot with local trying to get jobs there.

Of course it is not perfect and I am not suggesting it is but you do need look at the whole picture with an open mind and don't just assume that everyone in third world countries are essentially slaves.

More often than not, the local Nike factory is the best paid and most sought after job in say, Vietnam. Don't assume that it is all bad.

Should they all be confined to the rice fields in perpetuity like a picture from some travel magazine?

Greyfox · 13-09-2019 12:23pm

partyguinness wrote: »

When a new clothes factory opens in Bangladesh etc there is a near riot with local trying to get jobs there.

Of course it is not perfect and I am not suggesting it is but you do need look at the whole picture with an open mind and don't just assume that everyone in third world countries are essentially slaves.

More often than not, the local Nike factory is the best paid and most sought after job in say, Vietnam. Don't assume that it is all bad.

Should they all be confined to the rice fields in perpetuity like a picture from some travel magazine?

What you say is 100% correct and a very depressing reality

Paddy Cow · 13-09-2019 6:33pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

There should be no tax cuts in the upcoming budget.

Fine but at least get rid of the "temporary" USC charge. And stop with the bullsh!t stealth taxes such as carbon tax. We all know carbon taxes aren't going into researching clean, renewable energy. We're not stupid!

Edgware · 13-09-2019 6:40pm

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Fine but at least get rid of the "temporary" USC charge. And stop with the bullsh!t stealth taxes such as carbon tax. We all know carbon taxes aren't going into researching clean, renewable energy. We're not stupid!

No tax cuts but be sure to give the spongers who won't even vote a rise in welfare

Shane Fitz · 14-09-2019 12:16pm

Cordell wrote: »

You have something that people want to buy, but plenty of others have it as well - free market self-regulating competitive commerce
You have something that people want, and you're the only one that have it - price gouging, free market but not self-regulating and not competitive. Arguably, not commerce either.
You have something that people want, and you're the only one that have it, and you're in this position because you bought all available somethings in order to create the situation described at the "price gouging" - touting, not free market. Should be illegal.

Oversimplifies it a bit, but also hope it's all clear now.

Sounds awfully similar to the housing/rental market if you swapped "want" for "need". But sure when its €10's or even €100's of let's get exercised with about the touts (Noel Rock) but when its €1000's or €10000's ie the Vultures or Landlords it's ok to "let the market decide"

completedit · 14-09-2019 2:17pm

partyguinness wrote: »

Well, the danger here is that you are looking at the conditions in those countries with Western standards.

It is a fact that need for coffee, cocoa bean, cheap clothes has lifted tens of millions (if not hundreds) out of dire poverty in third world countries.

Lets say for arguments sake, that the West decided to cut consumption by 50%. What effect would that have?

When a new clothes factory opens in Bangladesh etc there is a near riot with local trying to get jobs there.

Of course it is not perfect and I am not suggesting it is but you do need look at the whole picture with an open mind and don't just assume that everyone in third world countries are essentially slaves.

More often than not, the local Nike factory is the best paid and most sought after job in say, Vietnam. Don't assume that it is all bad.

Should they all be confined to the rice fields in perpetuity like a picture from some travel magazine?

Consumerism is a trap. These people are lured to these jobs because they've been sold the lie that we in the west are all so happy with our stuff.

noel1980 · 14-09-2019 6:16pm

Man-made climate change and the climate crisis in general is a total hoax.

Also, people who are pushing the man-made climate climate change narrative are usually not scientists and usually cannot explain any of the science when pressed, and usually just refer to the 97% consensus of the "experts" on the topic, yet they never seem to independently investigate the issue themselves.

Furthermore, people who attend climate change protests are low-intelligence hippies.

BDI · 14-09-2019 6:20pm

noel1980 wrote: »

Man-made climate change and the climate crisis in general is a total hoax.

Also, people who are pushing the man-made climate climate change narrative are usually not scientists and usually cannot explain any of the science when pressed, and usually just refer to the 97% consensus of the "experts" on the topic, yet they never seem to independently investigate the issue themselves.

Furthermore, people who attend climate change protests are low-intelligence hippies.

Yep humans are so bad supposedly but if we didn’t exist and cows were allowed to multiply unchecked think how many cows would be farting up the ozone layer. It’d be 37 degrees in Greenland.

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 14-09-2019 6:42pm

noel1980 wrote: »

Man-made climate change and the climate crisis in general is a total hoax.

Also, people who are pushing the man-made climate climate change narrative are usually not scientists and usually cannot explain any of the science when pressed, and usually just refer to the 97% consensus of the "experts" on the topic, yet they never seem to independently investigate the issue themselves.

Furthermore, people who attend climate change protests are low-intelligence hippies.

Read a book. Jesus.

BDI · 14-09-2019 6:45pm

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Read a book. Jesus.

The Bible?

noel1980 · 14-09-2019 6:55pm

BDI wrote: »

Yep humans are so bad supposedly but if we didn’t exist and cows were allowed to multiply unchecked think how many cows would be farting up the ozone layer. It’d be 37 degrees in Greenland.

That reminds me, what ever happened to the "ozone layer"? When I was a kid I never stopped hearing about the ozone layer and how we were destroying the ozone layer. What happened, did they fix it or what? :P

BTW 37 degrees in Greenland doesn't sound half bad. Imagine what it would do for Greenland's tourism

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