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Thoughts on this floor plan?

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  • #52
    SelfBuild2019
    Registered Users Posts: 35 ✭SelfBuild2019


    theteal wrote: »
    Actually I did pick up on that also, TVs blocking windows are a bugbear. Is that a fireplace to the left of the proposed TV location? I don't like TVs mounted over fires (new TVs have enough of a job dissipating heat as is) but if there's no fire there, I'd have the TV on that wall.

    Yes that's the stove/chimney so the plan would be to mount the TV above that.

    My architect seems to be in a bit of a rush to get the design finalised and sent in for planning. We went back to him with some revisions at 1PM last week and he had sent back revised drawings at 6PM, which there are some mistakes on. I know that it's one of the juniors working in the office with him, and not him, but surely he should be proofing any work going out.

    If i go along now with the engineer's drawings and tell him i want it shaped something like that, is he likely to get annoyed?


  • #53
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 54,105 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    kceire wrote: »
    And there’s nothing wrong with that. In 20 years designing houses and extensions, your the first person I’ve ever come across that wanted their dishwasher plumbed into a utility room away from the kitchen.

    Washing machines and dryers yes, every day, but the dishwasher has always been placed near the main kitchen sink.

    Backs up every bodies point I suppose, horses for courses.

    My parents have their dishwasher in the utility room.

    It's awful. Makes emptying it an even bigger bollocks.

    Never had a sink in any utility room in my life. The idea of keeping the kitchen sink good looking and not using it for what sinks are designed to be used for seems a bit notiony to me.


  • #54
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 54,105 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    IMO, in the architect version I would hate the office to be off the dining area like that. Just seems the wrong place for it, and will be harder to get peace and quiet if you're trying to work right off the kitchen / dining area.

    I prefer your friends version. I like the closed off living room as I have a preference for cosier living areas, and if I was watching a match or whatever being able to hear someone working away in the kitchen or boiling the kettle would drive me crazy. Also anyone in the kitchen is going to be cheesed off if all they can hear is the TV. Office location is definitely better.

    The main thing for me with utility room is that you can't hear the washing machine from the living areas.

    The architect's kitchen design is very modern but I think your friends is probably more practical. IMO.


  • #55
    seannash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    Go with the friends one for the most part


    I'll get lambasted for this but you have too many windows in your living room and its causing you to jam a TV in a corner or mount in over the fireplace.
    Take one of the corner ones out at either side of the fireplace and dedicate that to your TV and arrange sofa's around it.
    I personally hate furniture or tv's up against windows.
    Same for the sitting room. It seems that you have said I want as many windows as I can cram in and I'll fit the furniture in around it.


    Now for the less controversial
    Dont have a slider out to the patio, have bi folds. A slider only lets you have half the access. If we get any sun you can open the whole space up. Keep the patio on the same level as the kitchen floor.


    I cannot fathom people putting the dishwasher in the utility room. Have you heard the noise that comes out of dishwashers theses days, they are very very quiet. What are you doing in the kitchen that its distracting you, Sleeping? If you are conversing you will not hear it.


    Maybe ditch the landing window in favour of a skylight? But I'm not sold on that idea myself
    I prefer your architects stairs, the other stairs is very big


  • #56
    NSAman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,442 ✭✭✭NSAman


    How bloody big a TV are you installing? Reminds me of that joke... the definition of poverty: when your flat screen is too big for your trailer.....

    Simple thing about design... it is YOUR decision in the end, how you live, what it right for you and how you want your house to function.... that is all that matters. You will get a thousand different answers to your original question.


  • #57
    Sausage dog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭Sausage dog


    Just a note on dishwashers in kitchens....we bought a new one last year, chose one with low decibel level and it's very quiet. I wouldn't decide on location of dishwasher solely based on noise.


  • #58
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,253 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    seannash wrote: »
    Go with the friends one for the most part


    I'll get lambasted for this but you have too many windows in your living room and its causing you to jam a TV in a corner or mount in over the fireplace.
    Take one of the corner ones out at either side of the fireplace and dedicate that to your TV and arrange sofa's around it.
    I personally hate furniture or tv's up against windows.
    Same for the sitting room. It seems that you have said I want as many windows as I can cram in and I'll fit the furniture in around it.


    Now for the less controversial
    Dont have a slider out to the patio, have bi folds. A slider only lets you have half the access. If we get any sun you can open the whole space up. Keep the patio on the same level as the kitchen floor.


    I cannot fathom people putting the dishwasher in the utility room. Have you heard the noise that comes out of dishwashers theses days, they are very very quiet. What are you doing in the kitchen that its distracting you, Sleeping? If you are conversing you will not hear it.


    Maybe ditch the landing window in favour of a skylight? But I'm not sold on that idea myself
    I prefer your architects stairs, the other stairs is very big


    +1 on bifolds.
    I wouldnt go back to sliding doors again.

    +1 on the windows.
    You are going to cook in those rooms unless you install blinds or some sort of awning outside.


  • #59
    knipex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭knipex


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    I don't think TV's in the corner work anymore either. That was fine and dandy when a TV took 3 men to lift into place. Modern flat panels work better on a flat wall imo, not stuck into the corner.

    I have not seen wall mourned TV work in a house. They are normally mounted too high to watch comfortably.

    I was always told that the mid point of the screen should be at eye level and as screens have gotten bigger that means they need to sit lower.

    To sit comfortably on the sofa and watch TV it needs to be mounted with the base no more than 600mm from the floor.. That looks stupid when wall mounted..


  • #60
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,253 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    knipex wrote: »
    I have not seen wall mourned TV work in a house. They are normally mounted too high to watch comfortably.

    I was always told that the mid point of the screen should be at eye level and as screens have gotten bigger that means they need to sit lower.

    To sit comfortably on the sofa and watch TV it needs to be mounted with the base no more than 600mm from the floor.. That looks stupid when wall mounted..

    Mid point at eye level is for work stations from an ergonomics point of view.
    It doesnt really apply to a TV as you are sitting much further away.
    Also, multiple people are watching it so you will only have 1 person with the perfect setup, everyone else will be at some angle.

    Its obvious when its too high or too low, but there is a huge range of wall height for a TV.


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  • #61
    theteal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    Wall mounting a TV doesn't specifically mean it has to go up high. I wouldn't be a fan of that either. As mentioned, I'm especially not a fan of TVs over fireplaces as it's going to cause issues on with the lifespan of the TV. Low mounted TVs can look really nice and tidy. Some really good examples over on AVforums

    One picked at random


  • #62
    knipex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭knipex


    theteal wrote: »
    Wall mounting a TV doesn't specifically mean it has to go up high. I wouldn't be a fan of that either. As mentioned, I'm especially not a fan of TVs over fireplaces as it's going to cause issues on with the lifespan of the TV. Low mounted TVs can look really nice and tidy. Some really good examples over on AVforums

    One picked at random


    Looks nice, but could equally have been left on the cabinet.

    However I agree with the mid wall mounted concept.


  • #63
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 54,105 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Mid point at eye level is for work stations from an ergonomics point of view.
    It doesnt really apply to a TV as you are sitting much further away.
    Also, multiple people are watching it so you will only have 1 person with the perfect setup, everyone else will be at some angle.

    Its obvious when its too high or too low, but there is a huge range of wall height for a TV.

    For workstations your eyes should be in line with the top edge of the screen, sometimes even slightly above the top edge of the screen, not the middle of it.


  • #64
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    knipex wrote: »
    I have not seen wall mourned TV work in a house. They are normally mounted too high to watch comfortably.

    I was always told that the mid point of the screen should be at eye level and as screens have gotten bigger that means they need to sit lower.

    To sit comfortably on the sofa and watch TV it needs to be mounted with the base no more than 600mm from the floor.. That looks stupid when wall mounted..

    Purely personal thing, but I think the high wall mounted flat screen TVs are an eye sore in living rooms. A TV should never be the focal point of a room, but most new houses now seem to have them mounted way up high above a stove.


  • #65
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,253 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Purely personal thing, but I think the high wall mounted flat screen TVs are an eye sore in living rooms. A TV should never be the focal point of a room, but most new houses now seem to have them mounted way up high above a stove.

    Unless its a TV room of course


  • #66
    jimmy_t
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭jimmy_t


    Hi Selfbuild, I have attached the drawings for my own house which we have just recently moved in to. It has a very similar layout to your own so I thought it might help with some ideas. We are delighted with how the layout has worked out and wouldnt have it any other way. Everything functions/flows really well and every room (bar spare bedroom) is used every day


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