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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,647 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Was only able to watch episode 6 last night. Argh wanted to binge it! After episode 5 it’s hard not to question anything and anyone.

    Here’s another thing I love about the show. In other shows, when there is a ramp up or a reveal or supernatural or mysterious events, it human relationships tend to take a back seat. But with this show it’s the opposite. The proverbial “Scheisse” has hit the fan in a lot of the character relationships causing a boiling over of the tension

    Brilliant stuff.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,647 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Finished the show last night. Loved it but I did feel the finale episode was a bit of a let down as it didn’t really wrap anything up. That aside it’s definitely one of the best TV shows in a long time.

    The character of Ulrich was my favourite character arc and love how they made a dislikable person, likeable.

    Episode 8.... We’d never see that in an American tv show.

    Looking forward to season 2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭MayoForSam


    Watched the entire season over the last week, the whole family were engrossed, even my teenage kids who normally have their heads buried in their iPhones. The dubbed version was a little off-putting, we actually had the subtitles turned on as well :) (they was a lot more swearing in the dubbed version).

    Quite difficult to follow at times, but worth the effort, especially as the season wore on and they
    kept intertwining the timelines
    . What struck me is that almost all of the characters were 'bad' in some way, nearly all of them had skeletons in the cupboard (some a lot more than others).

    Jonas was the most sympathetic character, but even he
    made the choice not to save Mikkel and bring him home from the past
    . I felt very sorry for Helge and how he ended up.

    Noah reminded me a lot of
    Damian from The Omen - perhaps he is the Antichrist?
    .

    The end of the season have a very
    'Stalker'-ish
    feel for anyone that's played the game. It borrows a lot from Stranger Things, Twin Peaks, It, even Back to the Future, but the creators did an excellent job of telling a right good yarn. Season 2 will be very interesting
    4 timelines instead of 3?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,198 ✭✭✭Talisman


    MayoForSam wrote: »
    Noah reminded me a lot of
    Damian from The Omen - perhaps he is the Antichrist?
    .
    I think it was hinted at as to who 'Noah' is.
    In 1953, Agnes Nielsen told Mrs. Tiedemann (Egon's wife) that her husband was a priest, but not a man of faith, he wasn't a good person and that it was good that he was dead.

    'Noah' is a priest, certainly is not a man of faith and has no problem doing bad things to innocent people. I don't think his real name was ever revealed.

    Agnes might consider him to be dead because he disappeared through the time portal.

    If this is correct then the family lineage is 'Noah' -> Tronte -> Ulrich -> Mikkel -> Jonas.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,647 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Talisman wrote: »
    I think it was hinted at as to who 'Noah' is.
    In 1953, Agnes Nielsen told Mrs. Tiedemann (Egon's wife) that her husband was a priest, but not a man of faith, he wasn't a good person and that it was good that he was dead.

    'Noah' is a priest, certainly is not a man of faith and has no problem doing bad things to innocent people. I don't think his real name was ever revealed.

    Agnes might consider him to be dead because he disappeared through the time portal.

    If this is correct then the family lineage is 'Noah' -> Tronte -> Ulrich -> Mikkel -> Jonas.

    My money is on Noah being
    Bartosz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,198 ✭✭✭Talisman


    faceman wrote: »
    My money is on Noah being
    Bartosz
    I had considered that but they have different coloured eyes and I have a feeling that the eye colour has some significance.
    Noah has blue eyes.
    Bartosz has brown eyes.
    Claudia has one blue and one brown eye.
    What eye colour does Jonas have?

    The construction site in 1953:
    The bodies of two kids were found. They were wearing clothes from the 2019 time period (all clothes were made in China). The coroner said that one of them had Arab features.

    In 1953 what would be considered Arab features?
    The eye, skin colour, the nose perhaps - Bartosz has brown eyes, olive skin and the middle-eastern bump on his nose. The nose bump isn't pronounced but it is there.

    Another wild idea I've had after the final episode:
    Michael isn't dead or has another part to play in the story. The Stranger told Jonas that Michael saved his life but he didn't realise it at the time. I don't think we've seen this yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,279 ✭✭✭Mike Litoris


    Sick with the Aussie Flu and binged this over the last 2 days. What a cracking cracking show!
    Felt a bit short changed by the ending too. Nothing resolved and a bit cheesy but on reflection...wow, just wow!

    I've never been able to watch foreign stuff with subtitles and wouldn't bother with dubbed versions. Dark has changed that for me. I feel liberated. :p I tried watching one of the episodes dubbed, it was awful. Now I can't wait to get stuck into some other foreign language shows. Any recommendations?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭Irish_rat


    Any recommendations?

    The Killing and The Bridge are excellent(Netflix), Deutschland 83 was pretty good too. (4oD)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,911 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Finished this last night. I really, really enjoyed it. I have a feeling I'll rewatch almost immediately, just because there was so much going on and I still don't have it all straight in my head.

    Like others, though, I honestly don't know how anyone could watch the dubbed version. I was about to give up on it after about five minutes because I found the dubbing so distracting til I noticed the little audio icon at the top of the screen and realised I could change it.

    MayoForSam wrote: »
    (they was a lot more swearing in the dubbed version).

    Even with my almost-forgotten Leaving Cert German I noticed that they replaced some of the German curses with milder English equivalents - where the character said "Shit" the subtitle would read "rubbish", for instance. Not really sure why they bothered, considering there was plenty of actual cursing too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭Wailin


    Struggled with the 1st episode....shot well but acting was poor and seems quiet depressing. Should i give up now if i didn't enjoy it or give it more time?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,647 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Wailin wrote: »
    Struggled with the 1st episode....shot well but acting was poor and seems quiet depressing. Should i give up now if i didn't enjoy it or give it more time?

    I’m wondering if you are watching the same show as the rest of us. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭Wailin


    faceman wrote: »
    I’m wondering if you are watching the same show as the rest of us. :)

    I'm wondering the same thing! How can so many people rave about it when I found episode one rubbish...I'll watch ep 2 and give it another go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    This was an excellent show. Loved it from start to finish. Time travel is excellent when done right. Up there with the best Netflix have done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,911 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Wailin wrote: »
    Struggled with the 1st episode....shot well but acting was poor and seems quiet depressing.

    Er, it's about missing children, what exactly were you expecting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭Wailin


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    Er, it's about missing children, what exactly were you expecting?

    So you enjoy depressing television? Good for you. Stranger Things has missing children but thats not depressing. Nope, sorry fanboys, I watched ep 2 and still dull and depressing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,279 ✭✭✭Mike Litoris


    Wailin wrote: »
    I'm wondering the same thing! How can so many people rave about it when I found episode one rubbish...I'll watch ep 2 and give it another go.

    Are you watching it dubbed or subtitled, Wailin? I found the dubbed version totally off-putting. It is also the first time I sat through something with subtitles. The lack of emotion in the dubbed recording completely ruins any tension.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    A show with dark theme doesnt have to be depressing. I love dark creepy things, but wasn't a fan of this show. I thought it was quite slow, and they tried too hard to be creepy and scary and I felt it just feel a bit flat in that regard. The whole show just feels a bit cliched and is often poorly acted. And whats with the dramatic music every 30 seconds or so? It makes me think something important is bout to happen but then it doesnt, they just play it during regular conversations. Really weird lol


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,647 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    wakka12 wrote: »
    A show with dark theme doesnt have to be depressing. I love dark creepy things, but wasn't a fan of this show. I thought it was quite slow, and they tried too hard to be creepy and scary and I felt it just feel a bit flat in that regard. The whole show just feels a bit cliched and is often poorly acted. And whats with the dramatic music every 30 seconds or so? It makes me think something important is bout to happen but then it doesnt, they just play it during regular conversations. Really weird lol

    OMG

    With total respect, you’re way wrong on this one. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Its just my opinion , nobody is 'wrong'..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,302 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    wakka12 wrote: »
    A show with dark theme doesnt have to be depressing. I love dark creepy things, but wasn't a fan of this show. I thought it was quite slow, and they tried too hard to be creepy and scary and I felt it just feel a bit flat in that regard. The whole show just feels a bit cliched and is often poorly acted. And whats with the dramatic music every 30 seconds or so? It makes me think something important is bout to happen but then it doesnt, they just play it during regular conversations. Really weird lol
    I can kind of get what you mean here, especially RE the music....my dog bloody hates it especially.

    I am reserving judgement as only finished episode 5....I am a tad confused though....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭Irish_rat


    gmisk wrote: »
    I can kind of get what you mean here, especially RE the music....my dog bloody hates it especially.

    I am reserving judgement as only finished episode 5....I am a tad confused though....

    You'll need watch it twice, highly rewarding on the second viewing as the characters become much clearer.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Finished up yesterday and overall I thought it one of Netflix's best Original Series to date; a genuinely taut thriller, with a frequently cinematic canvas, that straddled the line between mysterious and withholding perfectly. One of those SciFi / Supernatural stories that understood that overly explaining a central riddle ultimately lessens its power (though the ending scene was simply a cheeky tease).

    Watched it in its original German with English subtitles, and found the acting superb throughout; the dialogue was quite sparse across the series (bar some monologues that usually bookended episodes) so a lot of the cast had to give a more physical, implied performance rather than relying on confrontations or speeches. Ultimately I think that benefitted the experience, adding a heavy layer of guilty, haunted looks to the population of what amounted to the classic 'small town with secrets' trope. I've seen some people namecheck 'Stranger Things' in comparison and I think it's way wide of the mark; genetically, 'Dark' has more in common with 'Twin Peaks' than its sibling Netflix show, and the 1980s trappings are purely incidental, not an intentional nod to a nostalgic audience.

    Something that definitely deserves praise though is the casting, in the sense at how well they matched young actors with old: with most of the characters played by 2-3 different actors, of varying ages, it was pretty amazing how similar the child actors were to their grown-up counterparts. With the constant time-jumping it certainly helped that you often knew instinctively who you were looking at just by their appearance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Just watched the entire series over last night and tonight - absolutely loved it from start to finish. It seems most people hated it, but I loved the final scene - sets things up nicely for Season 2.

    The characters were all brilliant too - there wasn't a single character I disliked, even though most of them are unlikable characters, but you know what I mean... Once I realised that it would be important to remember characters names, I didn't struggle to follow who was who at all, and just automatically started putting together family trees in my head - which was probably one of the best things about the show; paying close attention was necessary which added to the experience.

    This and 3% (a Brazilian show) have probably been my favourite Netflix Originals so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    Can't say enough good things about this show. My head was melted by the end but not in a headwrecking way if that makes sense!

    Superb acting, rivetting storyline with a real sense of menace about it. Yes, the creepy music is a bit annoying at the start but you get used to it and after a couple of episodes I barely noticed.

    I'm not a big fan of binge watching but I wouldn't leave too long between watching each episode. I left it for two weeks at one stage and I felt like watching from the start again!

    And yes, it's nothing like Stranger Things even if it starts off a bit like it. It's very much its own show. Loved it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Uncle Mclovin


    Just finished watching it. I thought the acting was excellent despite what some people are saying on here. Will definitely watch it back before season 2 starts. I had to pause it on some episodes to think about who was who when they jumles back or forward in time.

    Noah is an excellent character. Has to be watched in German with English subtitles. Just him introducing himself in German is brilliant. "Ich bin Noah".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,619 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Finished it....

    Just too much going on in it really.....what are we hoping is resolved?


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 EireGrif


    Anyone know when will Season 2 on?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,505 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Threads merged.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    EireGrif wrote: »
    Anyone know when will Season 2 on?

    June 2019 most likely according to this tweet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    June 21st



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Looking good, had felt like longer since season 1. Such an underrated show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Can't wait for this! Easily my favourite Netflix Original Series to date.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Only thing I'd ask is for a recap before the first episode of season 2 :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    The first series was really good, and yeah we need a recap or to watch some of it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Might try and get a full re-watch of Season 1 in myself before Season 2 drops. It's the type of show you might pick up a lot more on the second time around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Full Trailer (obviously spoilers for season 1):

    The tick tocks like the watchmen trailer.. well not exactly like them
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    Might try and get a full re-watch of Season 1 in myself before Season 2 drops. It's the type of show you might pick up a lot more on the second time around.

    Mos def.
    Excellent head-scratcher, that (until towards the end of series 1) does what is hard to find in TV; like with The Leftovers, keeps you wondering if the whole thing turns on a natural or supernatural event/set of events.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    I've just read in another thread that there will be a third and final season.


  • Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭Big Game


    Rewatching Season 1 to get ready for this. Can't wait. Noticed that Season 2 is dropping on the exact same date (21st June 2019) that the very first scene of Season 1 is set in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    Big Game wrote: »
    Rewatching Season 1 to get ready for this. Can't wait. Noticed that Season 2 is dropping on the exact same date (21st June 2019) that the very first scene of Season 1 is set in.


    All set to rewatch.
    The very last sentence of dialogue in the last episode of season one has to be one of the coolest ever spoken.










  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Next week!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Finished my re-watch of Season 1 there the other night. So pumped for Season 2 next week!


  • Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭Big Game


    Finished my re-watch of Season 1 there the other night. So pumped for Season 2 next week!

    Two episodes left to watch tonight, absolute quality on rewatch, definitely pick up a lot nore but it's still mind-bending stuff.

    And the soundtrack is stunning listening to it again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    Absolutely loving season 2 so far... feels like this show is just made for me. Its mind bending and odd,but I love it.

    Its full of clever twists and sometimes, things seem so wide apart,but ultimately,just seem to fall in sync with the story.

    Just love it !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    sugarman wrote: »
    Id definitely recommend watching Season 1 again, I hadn't a notion of what was going on in S02E01 just now despite the recap. I had to pause and read the complete Wiki episode guide of S01 to remember all the twists and even then I'll probably have forgotten something.

    I'm going to rewatch 1 first


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    sugarman wrote: »
    Id definitely recommend watching Season 1 again, I hadn't a notion of what was going on in S02E01 just now despite the recap. I had to pause and read the complete Wiki episode guide of S01 to remember all the twists and even then I'll probably have forgotten something.

    Haha same with me but I think I have a grasp of it again by end of episode 2


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭Uncharted


    I had watched season 1 twice already and I was thankful for the recap.

    Its definitely a brain melt of a show :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Watched the trailer for season 2 and couldn't remember a thing so started season 1 again this morning. Had forgotten how good it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    sugarman wrote: »
    Id definitely recommend watching Season 1 again, I hadn't a notion of what was going on in S02E01 just now despite the recap. I had to pause and read the complete Wiki episode guide of S01 to remember all the twists and even then I'll probably have forgotten something.

    I'm on recap episode 4 now; reading summaries after I've watched episodes to make sure I've got my head screwed on properly afterwards.
    I didn't realise til I read wikipedia that Dark had been based on a web series. No wonder it got taken up. It would have given the writers a great opportunity to tweak stuff for the rewrite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭Irish_rat


    Watched the trailer for season 2 and couldn't remember a thing so started season 1 again this morning. Had forgotten how good it is.

    It's one of the very best programmes I've watched. Must watch season 1 again


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