Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Mod Note - No 'Dublin Dominance' chat allowed!

blanch152 · 17-10-2020 8:54pm

rolling boh wrote: »

We shipped way too many scores and Dessie started a couple who have never quite made the grade in previous years .One more game before the champo is due to start and if it does we have a lot to do I know dessie is in a no win situation but the signs look a bit shakey to me at this point hope i am proven totally wrong of course .

It is a very dicey situation this year. Matches played on heavy pitches in November and December - no wonder Jack opted out, his body wouldn't handle it.

Added to that, only six matches from now to winning All-Ireland, equivalent to heading to Leinster final in a normal year.

MFPM · 17-10-2020 8:57pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Dunno what to make of that really. Basically how I've felt about Dublin this season so far there's a lot of work to be done.

Obviously it's been a crazy stop start year and we haven't seen a full strength side out there yet but I haven't been massively impressed with Dessie Farrells Dublin overall so far. Surely things can only get better. Hopefully ha .

I agree, I've yet to be sold on DF, he's obviously trying to deepen the squad and get some new players but it's difficult to make a team gel when there's so many changes. They've yet to put in a 70 minute performance under Farrel.

How Soon Is Now · 17-10-2020 9:01pm

Ya it's crazy and it's impossible to know what's ahead this year for so many reasons.

Hope Cooper is alright where looking ropey at the back losing Cooper after Jack leaving would be a high blow that I think will cost us against the bigger team's.

I mean look how much Meath left behind tonight they could of easily had 3 goals and plenty more points.

CBear1993 · 17-10-2020 9:11pm

Sam is coming out of the capital

gormdubhgorm · 18-10-2020 1:07am

CBear1993 wrote: »

Sam is coming out of the capital

Why was it just under level 3 restrictions for five years?

Gael85 · 18-10-2020 1:30am

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

As an outsider watching, why does John Small always have to get involved?

John needs to avoid getting involved in needless spats. Lucky to avoid a second yellow card for challenge on Menton but don't know why received a yellow card earlier in game when he was punched and thrown to the ground by 2 Meath players. Referee seemed to miss Cillian O'Sullivan kicking out at Small too.

Strumms · 18-10-2020 1:52am

Gael85 wrote: »

John needs to avoid getting involved in needless spats. Lucky to avoid a second yellow card for challenge on Menton but don't know why received a yellow card earlier in game when he was punched and thrown to the ground by 2 Meath players. Referee seemed to miss Cillian O'Sullivan kicking out at Small too.

Referee missed a lot that he was seemingly in a prime position to see. The majority of which perpetrated by Meath men, some off the ball stuff too in fairness but he wasn’t the only man in black out there either.

DoctaDee · 18-10-2020 9:04am

Biggest concern last night was the amount of man buns on show, and on a serious note there seemed to be a number of lads who didn't look particularly well conditioned.. it had all the looks of an early season challenge game, which is exactly what the IC season this year imo.. just call it the All Ireland Challenge Cup..

ShyMets · 18-10-2020 11:44am

Having watched all of the League games under Farrell one thing that strikes me is that Dublin have never managed to control any game for a sustained period of time.

At the moment they remind me of the teams of the Caffery era. Very good at times but defensively suspect, players going missing, silly mistakes been made.

Granted this is a season like no other so those mitigating factors have to be considered. But that being said I'm not confident going into Championship

gormdubhgorm · 18-10-2020 2:11pm

ShyMets wrote: »

Having watched all of the League games under Farrell one thing that strikes me is that Dublin have never managed to control any game for a sustained period of time.

At the moment they remind me of the teams of the Caffery era. Very good at times but defensively suspect, players going missing, silly mistakes been made.

Granted this is a season like no other so those mitigating factors have to be considered. But that being said I'm not confident going into Championship

Yeah, I was thinking if Meath could score that many points. Imagine the damage the likes of Clifford and Kerry could cause in the championship?

Dublin looked great when they had possession though (as usual) of the bits I saw. But Meath seemed to get scores very easy?
I noticed that young fella at corner back (Cian Murphy) was being praised for getting up the field and attacking by the commentator.

But is this a sign of being too loose though?

BonnieSituation · 19-10-2020 3:54pm

There just didn't seem to be any shape once we were on the back foot. It was very haphazard I thought.

Not at all confident going into Championship.

Cancel it sure.

rolling boh · 19-10-2020 4:09pm

Thank heavens we got the five just in time it seems love to be proven wrong of course but think an exit this year looks very likely on what I have seen so far .

How Soon Is Now · 19-10-2020 5:14pm

rolling boh wrote: »

Thank heavens we got the five just in time it seems love to be proven wrong of course but think an exit this year looks very likely on what I have seen so far .

Won't be getting a championship by looks of things anyway.

Safe for now!

DDC1990 · 24-10-2020 6:06pm

Is James Madden the number 4 for Dublin the same lad who has a contract with Brisbane Lions? He was Boden as well.

corny · 24-10-2020 6:09pm

Anyone got a link to a stream?

wirelessdude01 · 24-10-2020 6:18pm

corny wrote: »

Anyone got a link to a stream?

If you have even the basic sky package it's on sky sports mix which is free.

24-10-2020 6:19pm

Mix is free on Virgin Media also.

corny · 24-10-2020 6:27pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

If you have even the basic sky package it's on sky sports mix which is free.

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Mix is free on Virgin Media also.

Thanks lads but not in country and don't have Virgin or Sky.

howiya · 24-10-2020 6:53pm

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Mix is free on Virgin Media also.

Is there any option to turnoff the crowd noise on Virgin? I know you can turn it off if you have a sky box

howiya · 24-10-2020 6:56pm

DDC1990 wrote: »

Is James Madden the number 4 for Dublin the same lad who has a contract with Brisbane Lions? He was Boden as well.

No the two lads just have the same name

DDC1990 · 24-10-2020 6:59pm

howiya wrote: »

No the two lads just have the same name

Thanks! Thought it was strange alright ðŸ˜‚

wirelessdude01 · 24-10-2020 7:00pm

howiya wrote: »

Is there any option to turnoff the crowd noise on Virgin? I know you can turn it off if you have a sky box

How do you do that on the sky box?

24-10-2020 7:06pm

Can’t see any way to do it on Virgin. Ended up switching to Now TV anyway as the picture is awful on Mix on Virgin.

august2016 · 24-10-2020 7:07pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

How do you do that on the sky box?

Press the help button and turn audio description on to get rid of it on sky

Slattsy · 24-10-2020 7:37pm

Didn't realise this was on telly. Watched the Chelsea match. It was awful. 90 mins of my life I'll never get back.

Looks comfortable from what I could see online.

CatInABox · 24-10-2020 7:51pm

Put them away safely enough in the end, but I can't help feel that Laois were in the game for far too long. Should really be putting them away earlier, not giving them the chance to come back again and again.

Lol at Mattie shouting at them from the sidelines, telling them how many tackles they've got, and how many he wants.

threeball · 24-10-2020 7:52pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Didn't realise this was on telly. Watched the Chelsea match. It was awful. 90 mins of my life I'll never get back.

Looks comfortable from what I could see online.

They were very poor. KK will slaughter them if they play like that next week.

Dyr · 24-10-2020 10:37pm

threeball wrote: »

They were very poor. KK will slaughter them if they play like that next week.

Wouldnt say they were very poor, Laois were at nothing tonight, KK be a different prospect and I suspect all our old failings will be on display next week

threeball · 25-10-2020 12:39am

Bambi wrote: »

Wouldnt say they were very poor, Laois were at nothing tonight, KK be a different prospect and I suspect all our old failings will be on display next week

They could barely shake off a Laois team that were completely rudderless and missed about a dozen frees. They were taking 3 and 4 touches to control the ball. More than one against kilkenny and they won't get a chance at the second touch. Only 5 up front and even then the ball in was crap. I'm sticking with very poor. Kenny is a bit of a one trick pony tactically too and everyone knows that trick now.

Chalk McHugh · 25-10-2020 9:03am

Good to see championship hurling back on our screens. I though Laois were out of their depth. They ambushed us last year but we've dished out a couple of trimmings to them since. Leinster championship has four strong teams and one (Carlow/Laois) that will never win it or get out of the round robin. I'm not sure they really add anything to the Leinster championship. A shock win every decade or so is not a great watch but it is what it is.

Thought we played well in patches and the run out will be beneficial against Kilkenny. I also liked the fake crowd noise even though it was a little mistimed at stages.

Dyr · 25-10-2020 11:33am

threeball wrote: »

They could barely shake off a Laois team that were completely rudderless and missed about a dozen frees. They were taking 3 and 4 touches to control the ball. More than one against kilkenny and they won't get a chance at the second touch. Only 5 up front and even then the ball in was crap. I'm sticking with very poor. Kenny is a bit of a one trick pony tactically too and everyone knows that trick now.

I thought their touch had generally improved since earlier this year, they just took too much out of the ball at times which KK will punish no matter what shape they're in. Same with the soft frees. Not enamoured with Kenny myself, very slow to make changes, which means he's either not great at reading the game or he feels he has no options

howiya · 25-10-2020 11:51am

Bambi wrote: »

I thought their touch had generally improved since earlier this year, they just took too much out of the ball at times which KK will punish no matter what shape they're in. Same with the soft frees. Not enamoured with Kenny myself, very slow to make changes, which means he's either not great at reading the game or he feels he has no options

I think you're right to say our touch has improved compared to what was on show during the league. Unfortunately it's still not at the required standard. Hopefully the run out helps. Was bizarre to hear in the coverage last night that they were struggling to get challenge games.

CatInABox · 25-10-2020 12:14pm

howiya wrote: »

Was bizarre to hear in the coverage last night that they were struggling to get challenge games.

Not too bizarre. The amount of walkovers going on is unbelievable. Some teams are so fearful of getting locked down by a positive test and not being able to field a team. I'm surprised they're allowing players out of their houses at all, to be honest.

Chalk McHugh · 25-10-2020 12:17pm

CatInABox wrote: »

Not too bizarre. The amount of walkovers going on is unbelievable. Some teams are so fearful of getting locked down by a positive test and not being able to field a team. I'm surprised they're allowing players out of their houses at all, to be honest.

I think it would be more bizarre if there was challenge games going ahead under the crazy circumstances.

Hawkeye9212 · 25-10-2020 2:09pm

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Good to see championship hurling back on our screens. I though Laois were out of their depth. They ambushed us last year but we've dished out a couple of trimmings to them since. Leinster championship has four strong teams and one (Carlow/Laois) that will never win it or get out of the round robin. I'm not sure they really add anything to the Leinster championship. A shock win every decade or so is not a great watch but it is what it is.

Thought we played well in patches and the run out will be beneficial against Kilkenny. I also liked the fake crowd noise even though it was a little mistimed at stages.

6 teams from next year. Laois were down a few key players from 2019 and they only have a small number of clubs to pick from. I don't think it would go down well if Leinster reduced the number of teams again.

How Soon Is Now · 25-10-2020 3:06pm

Scrappy start here for Dublin weather not helping fairly strong wind .

Chalk McHugh · 25-10-2020 3:10pm

Hawkeye9212 wrote: »

6 teams from next year. Laois were down a few key players from 2019 and they only have a small number of clubs to pick from. I don't think it would go down well if Leinster reduced the number of teams again.

Yea its hard to know what to do. My issue is the advantage the top Leinster counties have as opposed to their Munster counterparts. No offence to Laois or Carlow but there's no 'handy' matches in Munster and its harder to get out of their round robin as a result. As much as Laois/Carlow seem to improve their still a long way off challenging at this elite level. Not exactly fair across the board but when has it ever been fair in the GAA?

Dyr · 25-10-2020 3:12pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Scrappy start here for Dublin weather not helping fairly strong wind .

Galway with everyone behind the ball and persistently fouling, great to see Chocolate Jim McGuinness back involved in the game

Chalk McHugh · 25-10-2020 3:15pm

Maybe if Jim McGuinness did another session with Galway this week they'll improve on last weeks showing and only lose by 14 points today.

How Soon Is Now · 25-10-2020 3:17pm

Bambi wrote: »

Galway with everyone behind the ball and persistently fouling, great to see Chocolate Jim McGuinness back involved in the game

Ya Dublin having to do everything at slower more built-up pace. Galway not afraid to kick from distance where as Dublin seem to be trying to walk it in at times.

Chalk McHugh · 25-10-2020 3:22pm

Looks a strong wind favouring Galway in this half. Typical Salthill gale. Worth a few points. I can see Dublin putting 10 points on Galway in the second half.

Slattsy · 25-10-2020 3:25pm

Must be some wind there.

How Soon Is Now · 25-10-2020 3:26pm

Some nice long range scores in this.

Chalk McHugh · 25-10-2020 3:28pm

Howard donning a wicked moustache.

MFPM · 25-10-2020 3:28pm

The wind seems to be a big factor but Dublin are sloppy in position, kicked away a few balls and they've been caught in position a few times.

How Soon Is Now · 25-10-2020 3:30pm

Dublin looking much better actually then did against Meath.

Chalk McHugh · 25-10-2020 3:33pm

Kilkenny controlling the game in our forward line. Nothing new there. The consistency he displays is outrageous.

ClanofLams · 25-10-2020 3:36pm

Bambi wrote: »

Galway with everyone behind the ball and persistently fouling, great to see Chocolate Jim McGuinness back involved in the game

Do you watch what Dublin are doing at all no? Exact same.

How Soon Is Now · 25-10-2020 3:38pm

Cluxtons kicking has been very bad at times.

Where giving away the ball unnecessarily far to often should be ahead with amount of ball we have had.

Hawkeye9212 · 25-10-2020 3:41pm

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

Yea its hard to know what to do. My issue is the advantage the top Leinster counties have as opposed to their Munster counterparts. No offence to Laois or Carlow but there's no 'handy' matches in Munster and its harder to get out of their round robin as a result. As much as Laois/Carlow seem to improve their still a long way off challenging at this elite level. Not exactly fair across the board but when has it ever been fair in the GAA?

Well they've just duplicated the League for the championship. Switching the League to two groups of equal strength was opposed by the weaker counties. Hurling in these counties is mostly played by small rural clubs whereas the top counties have a mix of rural clubs and big town/city clubs.

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