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Cheltenham Day 4 - Friday 14 March

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  • #402
    Mostly Harmless
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    Andrew00 wrote: »
    Agree close this thread now. Load of bull
    Agree, lads comparing horses to Ayrton Senna, like a horse could ever drive a car, let alone win Formula One championships. State of this place.


  • #403
    jkbkhhho7t
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    Horses are the only farm animals not bred for slaughter so the humble cow would not be long switching places


  • #404
    BumperD
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    Mostly Harmless wrote: »
    Sensible discussion as ever I see

    Sensible discussion and outrage enthusiasts are incompatible I’m afraid.


  • #405
    BumperD
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    Mostly Harmless wrote: »
    Agree, lads comparing horses to Ayrton Senna, like a horse could ever drive a car, let alone win Formula One championships. State of this place.

    I was attempting to assist the fella understand his logic was flawed, but that was lost on you I gather from that response.

    Rather than being petty, and making childish remarks on “the state of this place”, remind yourself you dragged in staying chases . Why stop there? Why not aw sprinting? You do realize those calling for changes will never end until the sport is banned. That’s a fact. You can keep that last couple of lines and refer back to it at a future date if the outrage enthusiasts get their way.


  • #406
    Imhof Tank
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    Bumper did you really miss the implied rolleyes on the last Senna comment??

    On the childish remarks, was your own [long] post about fishing for tuna and rejecting medicines not in the same vein?


  • #407
    BumperD
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    Imhof Tank wrote: »
    Bumper did you really miss the implied rolleyes on the last Senna comment??

    On the childish remarks, was your own [long] post about fishing for tuna and rejecting medicines not in the same vein?

    I did miss the rolley eyes. Apologies.


  • #408
    Mostly Harmless
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    Outrage enthusiasm indeed, not much chance of Bumper staying the trip the way he goes tearing off anyway :) (smiley face - i.e. this is not a serious comment)


  • #409
    handsfree2
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    Mostly Harmless wrote: »
    If people can watch that head on angle of the finish of the 4 miler at Cheltenham and think there is nothing wrong with obviously shattered horses being forced to keep going till they crumple in a heap then good luck to them, I am used to seeing such things and it was a hard watch for me so can only imagine what it looked like to an outsider.

    All about mitigating risk for me and if racing is not seen to be taking proactive steps then the game will be up before long. A lot of people seem to have the attitude that this was always the way things were done so why change it etc, that's a very dangerous game to play in my opinion.

    Racing needs to be sure of its self in areas where welfare concerns are unfounded (e.g. the whip) but actually do things to reduce the risk of injury to horses where there are legitimate concerns.

    I don't see tired horses being a problem, they're trained for endurance.


  • #410
    Mostly Harmless
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    handsfree2 wrote: »
    I don't see tired horses being a problem, they're trained for endurance.
    I would say just about any "non racing person" (and these people are the majority in society) would watch end of that 4 miler at Cheltenham and think there was a welfare issue. Anyway there's not much point in my continuing in this discussion lest I be labelled an outrage enthusiast for having an opinion that does not perfectly align with the status quo.


  • #411
    RivetingRoger
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    Worst......
    Thread........
    Ever....

    close it down


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  • #412
    Mostly Harmless
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    RivetingRoger wrote: »
    Worst......
    Thread........
    Ever....

    close it down
    Not quite as good as the one made about a vile rumour


  • #413
    The Tetrarch
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    Thread needs a poll. ;)

    Who is the worst
    One a year aftertimers with screenshots of bets [ ]
    Once a year "concerned about horses" TV watchers [ ]
    That flat guy who started a 2000 Guineas thread [ ]


  • #414
    RivetingRoger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    Mostly Harmless wrote: »
    Not quite as good as the one made about a vile rumour

    i saw that coming!!!!:D:D


  • #415
    akelly02
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    Mostly Harmless wrote: »
    Not quite as good as the one made about a vile rumour

    Im lost


  • #416
    Mostly Harmless
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    akelly02 wrote: »
    Im lost
    You're better off :D


  • #417
    RivetingRoger
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    akelly02 wrote: »
    Im lost

    See that road down there, you see the gate with the cow peeking over it, well if you get there, turn back, you have gone too far.......


  • #418
    Dr. Bre
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    Horse racing has been around since the beginning of time and will be till the end


  • #419
    NaiveMelodies
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    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Horse racing has been around since the beginning of time and will be till the end

    Hmmmmm I hope so but I doubt it.


  • #420
    Shemale
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    wally79 wrote: »
    I’m not on either side in this but in fairness senna decided to get in the fast car

    I don’t know how much of a choice the horses have

    If a 500kg horse doesnt want to race he wont, think Mad Moose


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  • #421
    wally79
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    Shemale wrote: »
    If a 500kg horse doesnt want to race he wont, think Mad Moose

    You still can’t compare a human decision to a horses

    Also for the record I’m a fan of racing and don’t understand those who want to ban it as most if not all of these animals wouldn’t exist without it.


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