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Extinction Rebellion Ireland

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    #92
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Scroungers, dole, something, something, free houses, crusties, commies, something, Margret Cash, China.

    I think I've covered all bases there.


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    #93
    SeanW
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    I was there as well and they specifically did not block the Luas, or traffic going along the Quays.

    Why bother even lying about this?
    They very clearly did both. See attached photo. Would you like to withdraw your claim of "lying?"


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    #94
    SeanW
    Registered Users Posts: 8,744 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Oh and since we're all supposed to take climate change so seriously, how many of these plonkers would support the construction of a nuclear power plant in Ireland or new nuclear in the UK?

    https://www.electricitymap.org/?page=country&solar=false&remote=true&wind=false&countryCode=FR

    Because nuclear energy can totally decarbonise a power grid at reasonable costs. France right now is emitting 28g/kwh for its electricity which is among, if not THE lowest figure in Europe. And it's been a similar story every single day for the last 30+ years. By contrast, as of right now, Northern Ireland, which has been carpet-bombed with wind turbines, is emitting 381g/kwh.

    I didn't bother asking the plonkers blocking the Luas tracks yesterday if they wanted to do that because I have a fair idea what the answer would be.


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    #95
    weldoninhio
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    If I was in charge they’d be blasted with ice cold water, then baton charged.


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    #96
    sk8erboii
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    If I was in charge they’d be blasted with ice cold water, then baton charged.

    100% chance whoever posted this is a docile old man.


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    #97
    GinAndBitter
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    If I was in charge they’d be blasted with ice cold water, then baton charged.

    They could do with a wash that's for sure.


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    #98
    sk8erboii
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    People under 35: *does anything*

    Afterhours: NO THEY CANT DO THIS. CALL THE POLICE


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    #99
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    sk8erboii wrote: »
    100% chance whoever posted this is a docile old man.

    Tell us more about your massively important job hahahahaha

    Edit: I wouldn’t say 36 is elderly.


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    #100
    Buford T. Justice XIX
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    sk8erboii wrote: »
    People under 35: *does anything*

    Afterhours: NO THEY CANT DO THIS. CALL THE POLICE

    Ringing the Gardai would probably be a better solution.


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    #101
    SharpshooterTom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    The protesters aren't going anywhere, they'll be here for as long as it takes, all summer probably.

    The millennial generation see this as the civil rights of their era.


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    #102
    RHJ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 925 ✭✭✭RHJ


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    If you want to know why we're ****ed you just have to look at this thread. The apathy and denial and ignorance towards the single biggest issue mankind faces is staggering.

    Thankfully the posters here don't represent the majority opinion in this country if I had to guess the demographics of boards I would say it's mainly men in their late to mid-30s and predominantly hold right-wing opinions. From browsing r/Ireland on Reddit which is more popular amongst younger people the view of these protests seems to be positive.


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    #103
    gozunda
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    Yurt! wrote: »
    Scroungers, dole, something, something, free houses, crusties, commies, something, Margret Cash, China.

    I think I've covered all bases there.

    To be honest - it's you who appear to be using the bulk of those terms. The only references to China I read were some comments re China's role as the largest carbon emitter globally etc.

    Are you suggesting that criticism is not allowed? Why is that?


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    #104
    GinAndBitter
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Tell us more about your massively important job hahahahaha

    Edit: I wouldn’t say 36 is elderly.

    Ah leave him alone, he will probably tell his "mom" on you.


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    #105
    gozunda
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    sk8erboii wrote: »
    100% chance whoever posted this is a docile old man.


    2s6rot.jpg


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    #106
    Allinall
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    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    The protesters aren't going anywhere, they'll be here for as long as it takes, all summer probably.

    The millennial generation see this as the civil rights of their era.

    They’ll eventually get jobs.


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    #107
    Edgware
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    If I was in charge they’d be blasted with ice cold water, then baton charged.
    Are you ruling out the compulsory army service so?


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    #108
    whisky_galore
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    RHJ wrote: »
    Thankfully the posters here don't represent the majority opinion in this country if I had to guess the demographics of boards I would say it's mainly men in their late to mid-30s and predominantly hold right-wing opinions. From browsing r/Ireland on Reddit which is more popular amongst younger people the view of these protests seems to be positive.

    Green Party resurgence? LOL.

    Will they give up their gap year and their grand world tour and carbon footprint? Will they fcuk!

    Ah they'll grow up eventually and the only thing they'll worry about around election time is how much disposable income they will have in their hot little hands.


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    #109
    s7ryf3925pivug
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    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Green Party resurgence? LOL.

    Will they give up their gap year and their grand world tour and carbon footprint? Will they fcuk!

    Ah they'll grow up eventually and the only thing they'll worry about around election time is how much disposable income they will have in their hot little hands.
    I'm a man in my late thirties and my primary concern is environmental policy. Being worried about disposable income doesn't mean you're grown up. It means you're a bit poor or a bit greedy. Personally I worry about the state the world will be in when my kid is my age.


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    #110
    Hal3000
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    Effects wrote: »
    Do you think they only protest and that’s it?

    They were out this morning, cleaning the coast and public amenity at Dollymount.

    Meanwhile you’re probaly still at home, moaning about people who care about trying to make their city, country, world a better place.

    That was these guys

    https://bullislandactiongroup.ie/2019/04/20/easter-weekend-clean-up/


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    #111
    Kirby
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    Yurt! wrote: »
    Let's face it, and I'm not trying to be cute, people like yourself are unlikely to ask a politician who comes to your door next general election season about climate policy, and are even more unlikely to vote along those lines. So how seriously you take it is a question that will be left hanging in the air.

    Don't worry, you weren't cute. Just ignorant.

    You have little idea of my political leanings and even less of an idea of what I would ask a politician seeking my vote. How you could begin to think you have any idea of such is ludicrous.
    Yurt! wrote: »

    At least these people are making a nuisance of themselves (and the intention is to be a nuisance).

    Looking at these people you have two options:

    1. "Check out these crusties, police should baton them back to their crusty camps."

    Or,

    2. "Hey, maybe they're on to something here. Perhaps I could change my consumption behavior somewhat and maybe encourage policy makers to do more."

    Only two options, huh? How very black and white of you. How very, "If you're not with me you're against me".

    Here's an option 3 for you. Climate change is the second biggest hurdle we will face over the next hundred years as a species and is more important than virtually everything else. However what these "crusties" as you call them are doing......is of absolutely ZERO consequence to this and this so-called protest will achieve nothing. This is, without a doubt, one of the worst ways of going about what they claim they wish to achieve.


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    #112
    Effects
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    Deacon Scarce Cap wrote: »
    And where were you this morning?

    Down working at the cleanup at Dollymount.


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    #113
    Effects
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    Hal3000 wrote: »
    That was these guys

    https://bullislandactiongroup.ie/2019/04/20/easter-weekend-clean-up/

    With a crossover between both groups.
    Want me to draw you a venn diagram?


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    #114
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    ER Ireland wants a declaration of emergency, zero emissions by 2030 and consideration for poor people. ER UK wants a state of emergency, zero emissions by 2025 and a citizens assembly.

    Clear focused demands are good. The yellow jacket movement in France demonstrate why consideration for poor people is probably necessary, though I reckon the motivation for that point might be more idealistic and less pragmatic than that angle.

    Apparently the 2025 target is criticized as fanciful. So maybe the 2030 one is more credible.

    To not be a hypocrite, in the next few years I need to ditch my cars and disconnect my boiler, not fly, not eat goods transported by plane, not eat beef.

    I guess few goods are transported by plane anyway.


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    #115
    seamusk84
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    At least they are out making a point that will hopefully get some notice in the public domain and force politicians to sit up a bit. More power to them even if some of them are treating it as a lark.

    We have all seen how messed up the weather has been the past 5 years or so. It’s not going to get any better if we don’t actually take notice.

    Good to see this kind of protest happening more and more in Europe. Also great to have the primary/secondary kids out protesting, as they will be the ones suffering in 30 years time.


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    #116
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    seamusk84 wrote: »
    At least they are out making a point that will hopefully get some notice in the public domain and force politicians to sit up a bit. More power to them even if some of them are treating it as a lark.

    We have all seen how messed up the weather has been the past 5 years or so. It’s not going to get any better if we don’t actually take notice.

    Good to see this kind of protest happening more and more in Europe. Also great to have the primary/secondary kids out protesting, as they will be the ones suffering in 30 years time.

    They will be suffering alright if the doomsday cult gets its way, paying carbon taxes left right and center with less freedom to improve their lot than any generation that came before them.


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    #117
    s7ryf3925pivug
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    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    They will be suffering alright if the doomsday cult gets its way, paying carbon taxes left right and center with less freedom to improve their lot than any generation that came before them.
    That's the fault of the generations before them though, especially those with living members.


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    #118
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Daxton Scrawny Plow wrote: »
    That's the fault of the generations before them though, especially those with living members.

    So why not subsidise 'green' alternatives for energy, transport etc instead of penalising people via carbon taxes to the point where a bowl of run straight through you lentil soup will be an extravagance. Taxing people to the the point where peoples backs will be to the wall will backfire badly in the not so distant future. Just Look at Paris today.


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    #119
    s7ryf3925pivug
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    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    So why not subsidise 'green' alternatives for energy, transport etc instead of penalising people via carbon taxes to the point where a bowl of run straight through you lentil soup will be an extravagance. Taxing people to the the point where peoples backs will be to the wall will backfire badly in the not so distant future. Just Look at Paris today.
    Sounds good. Do extinction rebellion advocate taxes over incentives then?

    You need taxes to finance incentives obviously, so the two measures would go hand in hand really.


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    #120
    Hal3000
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    Protesting is fine and its great that they're getting attention for these issues. I'd be interested to see how many people who attended actually get involved in community or volunteer related environmental initiatives. We struggle to get volunteers at beach cleans especially anyone under 30 which seems to be most of the people at the protest.


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    #121
    s7ryf3925pivug
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    Hal3000 wrote: »
    Protesting is fine and its great that they're getting attention for these issues. I'd be interested to see how many people who attended actually get involved in community or volunteer related environmental initiatives. We struggle to get volunteers at beach cleans especially anyone under 30 which seems to be most of the people at the protest.
    Cleaning the beach is great community minded stuff. I did a couple of things like that with conservation volunteers ireland when I was young. I guess it would prevent some level of harm to wildlife including sea creatures. But I don't see how it affects greenhouse emissions or global warming.


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