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What's your idea of competitive (hourly) pay?

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  • 16-06-2021 4:51pm
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    Hillybilly4
    Registered Users Posts: 609 ✭✭✭


    I went for a job interview today (p/t, home care sector).
    The job description said "competitive pay".

    Minimum wage is €10.20. Soooooo...I was expecting a "competitive" hourly rate of...maybe €14 or 15?

    (I do appreciate that this is a lowly-paid sector and having been self-employed for more than two decades I may be a wee bit out of touch with reality).

    Thankfully I was wearing a face mask and so the interviewers couldn't see my jaw drop when the rate of pay was revealed to be...

    €11/hr.

    That's "competitive"??? :eek:


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    Mimon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭Mimon


    Hillybilly4 wrote: »
    I went for a job interview today (p/t, home care sector).
    The job description said "competitive pay".

    Minimum wage is €10.20. Soooooo...I was expecting a "competitive" hourly rate of...maybe €14 or 15?

    (I do appreciate that this is a lowly-paid sector and having been self-employed for more than two decades I may be a wee bit out of touch with reality).

    Thankfully I was wearing a face mask and so the interviewers couldn't see my jaw drop when the rate of pay was revealed to be...

    €11/hr.

    That's "competitive"??? :eek:

    Depends on a few factors, part of the country for one or if it was a training wage and you can expect to get regular increases with experience. 11 is pretty Sh!te though.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Even shi**ier when you never know what hours you are working.

    I wonder how much the clients are charged?


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    kravmaga
    Registered Users Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Even shi**ier when you never know what hours you are working.

    I wonder how much the clients are charged?

    Probably double or triple the €11 rate


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    The Mighty Quinn
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    kravmaga wrote: »
    Probably double or triple the €11 rate

    I've seen what I'm charged out at to clients, and it's about 2.5 times what I get paid by my employer per hour. It makes sense... they need to make money from me doing what I do as well.


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    Mrs OBumble
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    Have you got a Level 5 (of above) qual in a relevant discipline?

    If so, competitive would be on a par with the HSE starting rate of 13.82 - realistically that's who they are competiting with for staff.

    If not then 11 per hour sounds fine as a training rate.


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    kravmaga
    Registered Users Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    The Mighty Quinn wrote: »
    I've seen what I'm charged out at to clients, and it's about 2.5 times what I get paid by my employer per hour. It makes sense... they need to make money from me doing what I do as well.

    Of course


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    NoIdea99
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Even shi**ier when you never know what hours you are working.

    I wonder how much the clients are charged?

    Home carer rates with a company such as say Caremark is €24 per hour .. just outside Dublin


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    The DayDream
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    Whenever they say competitive, negotiable basically any string of characters that ain't a number you can guarantee the pay is gonna be crap.

    I'm on a similar 'competitive' rate and it's not much, marginally better than not working at all. I'm now trying to figure out what kind of course I can do quickly to get something that's hiring and paying even just a bit more, like you said, 14 or 15 an hour. I have a degree but it's fairly useless for employment.


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    TaSeThat
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭TaSeThat


    I always judge a position on the package...not salary/wage. Left the private sector to work for the council. Big drop in salary but I was looking at the whole package. 30 days hols, flexi time, career break, job security, etc - if I based my decision on pay I would never have left. However, some positions may not offer a package, just a salary which may have been your situation.


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    C3PO
    Registered Users Posts: 3,742 ✭✭✭C3PO


    I would assume that "competitive" means similar to what others in the industry are paying!


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