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Criminal offence tyre

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  • 14-04-2021 5:07pm
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    FrankC21
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    Can't help to be a nosy prick, but saw a car just now on the car park beside me with seems to be in my opinion a criminal offence having to drive a car with a bald tyre as my head seen on the pics. That's fcking dangerous to anyone.


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    Atlantic Dawn
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    I see it a lot when casually looking at cars parked in shopping centres and it's not all ancient cars either. It's not like they left the house this morning and the tyres were fully legal either.


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    User1998
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    Under inflated as well


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    odyssey06
    Registered Users Posts: 28,298 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Put the reg into the NCT site, hopefully it is due soon...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    mickdw
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    I guess the brakes are running abit steel on steel judging by the colour of the dust.


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    Truckermal
    Registered Users Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    mickdw wrote: »
    I guess the brakes are running abit steel on steel judging by the colour of the dust.

    I copped that too can't bate the Irish motorist for maintenance.


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    Darc19
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    It is not a criminal offence as the offence can be dealt with by fixed penalty notice and fine.

    Also, unless you are a member of the gardai, it's not your position to call it out.

    You can of course advise a driver that their tyre is worn, but saying it is criminal is wrong


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    mickdw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Darc19 wrote: »
    It is not a criminal offence as the offence can be dealt with by fixed penalty notice and fine.

    Also, unless you are a member of the gardai, it's not your position to call it out.

    You can of course advise a driver that their tyre is worn, but saying it is criminal is wrong

    If that driver crashed due to faulty tyre and killed someone, things would be rather more serious than a fixed penalty notice.


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    Darc19
    Registered Users Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    mickdw wrote: »
    If that driver crashed due to faulty tyre and killed someone, things would be rather more serious than a fixed penalty notice.

    True, but it's still not a criminal offence no matter what catastrophe syndrome outcome you come up with.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Darc19 wrote: »
    It is not a criminal offence as the offence can be dealt with by fixed penalty notice and fine.

    Darc19 wrote: »
    True, but it's still not a criminal offence no matter what catastrophe syndrome outcome you come up with.

    It is a Criminal offence.

    Only 2 legal areas in Ireland under the common law system. Civil and criminal. It's not counted in background checks / vetting but it's still within the criminal remit.


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    FrankC21
    Registered Users Posts: 806 ✭✭✭FrankC21


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    This is the second thread where you have posted basically

    "It's none of your business"

    In these two threads people are either doing their civic duty or have a legit concern. Whats your problem?

    Ya, I saw your post in the other thread exact same response being nega about it.


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    KB22
    Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭KB22


    Guess what your insurer will say if you are in an accident, having a bald tyre !


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    LollipopJimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,440 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    I see this a lot on the bike and motorbike. It's shocking how bad some are


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    JCN12
    Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭JCN12


    FrankC21 wrote: »
    Can't help to be a nosy prick, but saw a car just now on the car park beside me with seems to be in my opinion a criminal offence having to drive a car with a bald tyre as my head seen on the pics. That's fcking dangerous to anyone.

    So is driving at excessive speeds on Motorways Frank. ;)

    That tyre is pure insanity though.


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    FrankC21
    Registered Users Posts: 806 ✭✭✭FrankC21


    JCN12 wrote: »
    So is driving at excessive speeds on Motorways Frank. ;)

    That tyre is pure insanity though.

    Wait now, i actually slowed down now 4th gear to italian job, i was young and stupid then.


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    Dirty Nails
    Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭Dirty Nails


    FrankC21 wrote: »
    Can't help to be a nosy prick, but saw a car just now on the car park beside me with seems to be in my opinion a criminal offence having to drive a car with a bald tyre as my head seen on the pics. That's fcking dangerous to anyone.


    And this happened while you were sitting in your car. The one with no brakes? :)


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    FrankC21
    Registered Users Posts: 806 ✭✭✭FrankC21


    Dirty Nails wrote: »
    And this happened while you were sitting in your car. The one with no brakes? :)

    Aye now, that ain't fair.


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    JCN12
    Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭JCN12


    FrankC21 wrote: »
    Wait now, i actually slowed down now 4th gear to italian job, i was young and stupid then.

    Glad to hear it.


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    Darc19
    Registered Users Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    This is the second thread where you have posted basically

    "It's none of your business"

    In these two threads people are either doing their civic duty or have a legit concern. Whats your problem?

    Yes and I'm correct in both.

    In the other thread I said that the poster probably thought they were doing the right thing, but the gardai cannot act unless a complaint cones from the damaged party.

    On this thread, I have said it is not a criminal offence. It is an offence dealt with by fixed penalty notice, the same as parking on double yellow lines or parking in a disabled spot without the required disc.

    It is NOT a criminal offence.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Darc19 wrote: »
    Yes and I'm correct in both.

    In the other thread I said that the poster probably thought they were doing the right thing, but the gardai cannot act unless a complaint cones from the damaged party.

    On this thread, I have said it is not a criminal offence. It is an offence dealt with by fixed penalty notice, the same as parking on double yellow lines or parking in a disabled spot without the required disc.

    It is NOT a criminal offence.

    So what is it? What legal area does it fit?

    It's an offence under section 11, road traffic act 1961 by the way. The same act that covers dangerous driving for example.

    The fact that a fine can be issued doesn't change the legal area it's within. You can get a fine for section 4, Criminal justice (public order) act 1994 as well and multiple current covid regulations but guess what? If you don't pay the fine you get summonsed to court where you get convicted.

    It's a Criminal offence


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    10pennymixup
    Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭10pennymixup


    Darc19 wrote: »
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    It is NOT a criminal offence.
    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    So what is it? What legal area does it fit?

    It's an offence under section 11, road traffic act 1961 by the way. The same act that covers dangerous driving for example.

    The fact that a fine can be issued doesn't change the legal area it's within. You can get a fine for section 4, Criminal justice (public order) act 1994 as well and multiple current covid regulations but guess what? If you don't pay the fine you get summonsed to court where you get convicted.

    It's a Criminal offence

    Would you like a bag to carry your ass that's just been handed to you?


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    cml387
    Registered Users Posts: 8,380 ✭✭✭cml387


    Darc19 wrote: »
    Yes and I'm correct in both.

    In the other thread I said that the poster probably thought they were doing the right thing, but the gardai cannot act unless a complaint cones from the damaged party.

    On this thread, I have said it is not a criminal offence. It is an offence dealt with by fixed penalty notice, the same as parking on double yellow lines or parking in a disabled spot without the required disc.

    It is NOT a criminal offence.

    Go over to Legal Issues and state this and see what answer you get.


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    bucketybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    This is the second thread where you have posted basically

    "It's none of your business"

    In these two threads people are either doing their civic duty or have a legit concern. Whats your problem?

    Are people not allowed to have that opinion?


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    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Are people not allowed to have that opinion?

    Course they are, but the right to have an opinion doesn't make one immune from being ripped apart for it


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    #25
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »
    Course they are, but the right to have an opinion doesn't make one immune from being ripped apart for it

    Ripping apart an opinion is fine, but that is not what the mod did.


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    #26
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,535 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i once pointed out bald tyres on a grab truck to a garda; and i guess in that situation the fleet manager of the (well known) construction company would escape punishment, but the poor sod who was assigned the truck that morning would be the only one to be punished?


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    #27
    Isambard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭Isambard


    photo of insurance disc, (better) photo of tyre, send to the Insurer.


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    magicbastarder
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    can the insurer take any action based on an unsolicited message from joe public? if they could, what controls are there to deal with malicious messages?


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    #29
    CoBo55
    Registered Users Posts: 8,845 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Follows thread for the craic... Hopefully nobody's horse loses a shoe....


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    #30
    Normal One
    Registered Users Posts: 357 ✭✭Normal One


    Nice slicks, bro.


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