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15-05-2019, 09:44   #46
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... main alternative skygod ...
So many invisible skylords. And yet not one of them decent enough to step in and fix this sheet for us. Too busy doing their nails, up there in the sky.

I liked that Yahweh guy. When he smited the Babylonians that time, they stayed smote.
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I liked that Yahweh guy. When he smited the Babylonians that time, they stayed smote.
Like in the song "By the rivers of Babylon"
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15-05-2019, 14:12   #49
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Maybe they should only offer children's allowance for a Max of 2 kids?
Likely already on the cards (by the way of {adult} UBI).
The bowl of soup will be 'Universal' no matter who it's for.

Seperately, surprised no ones mentioned the Georgia Guidestones:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
  1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
  2. Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
  3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
  4. Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
  5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
  6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
  7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
  8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
  9. Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
  10. Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.
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Do you not think that we'd want to keep the British considering that they invented nearly everything of note for over 200 yrs.

What's the use in getting rid of the top echelon. It makes no sense from a natural standpoint.
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More to do with lack of education/access to contraception than lack of interest. I'd say they'd be keen on a way to have less mouths to feed.
No, that's not it. There's a couple of reasons.

The religious one; both Christaianity and Islam very much in favour of increasing numbers.

But also the practical one. In third world countries they have a lot of kids, but they invest very little in their kids. Its a bit like buying lotto tickets. More tickets improves your odds. The hope is that at least one of them will do well, maybe even make it to a wealthy country and send back some money. Others might not do well, or even die. Its important to plan for old age when there is no pension and you rely on your relatives for food.


In the west, kids cost you a lot of money to raise, and you'll still get your pension whether you have kids or not. In fact your pension will probably be better without kids, because more time was available to be spent on career and work.
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Likely already on the cards (by the way of {adult} UBI).
The bowl of soup will be 'Universal' no matter who it's for.

Seperately, surprised no ones mentioned the Georgia Guidestones:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
  1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
  2. Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
  3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
  4. Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
  5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
  6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
  7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
  8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
  9. Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
  10. Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.
3 - 10 sound like sensible well-meaning policies. 1 is essentially advocating a mass die-off, and 2 is promoting eugenics. Eugenics is a flawed concept as it is evolution guided by humans rather than nature. Nature is impartial and without ego in deciding what gets to survive. Humans not so much. Eugenics is humans deciding they know better than nature, but not stopping to consider that eliminating a 'defect' in people may have implications they can barely begin to predict of understand.
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3 - 10 sound like sensible well-meaning policies. 1 is essentially advocating a mass die-off, and 2 is promoting eugenics. Eugenics is a flawed concept as it is evolution guided by humans rather than nature. Nature is impartial and without ego in deciding what gets to survive. Humans not so much. Eugenics is humans deciding they know better than nature, but not stopping to consider that eliminating a 'defect' in people may have implications they can barely begin to predict of understand.
No idea who made America's stonehenge, googlebot suggests it was the Free people that wear the aprons and so on, betting money would be on that Soro chap.

Regards Eugenics, the stones stand proud in Georgia, since '79, where this week saw the new “heartbeat bill” that bans any abortion after six weeks.

Not to worry the Amazon lad worth about a billion times another billion more dolla', says there plenty of room up in space for a trillion lads and lassies. He has free tickets once the big rocket is ready to lift off.
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1 is essentially advocating a mass die-off, and 2 is promoting eugenics. Eugenics is a flawed concept as it is evolution guided by humans rather than nature.
1. Everybody dies. All it means is less people being born per year than die, for a while. That's already happening in most western and east asian countries (eg Japan).
2. We have already entered the age of eugenics. And its good.
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1. Everybody dies. All it means is less people being born per year than die, for a while. That's already happening in most western and east asian countries (eg Japan).
2. We have already entered the age of eugenics. And its good.
The birth rate remains quite robust in poorer countries, and the overall human population is still increasing. Until people around the world enjoy similar standards of living, education and cultural attitudes, this is a trend I don't see exactly reversing. The result being that I can't see a massive reduction in the human population being brought about by anything other than painful means, being that a cull, environmental crises or strictly-enforced population quotas.

I was talking about eugenics more in the sense of choosing who lives, dies, or doesn't get to reproduce. I could never argue with a smiling mother who's ecstatic that her child doesn't have to suffer. That will always be a wonderful development. On a more macro scale, however, I was wondering since human kind has never evolved things like handicaps out of the gene pool, maybe they have actually had an important evolutionary function for us, i.e. being a test of empathy and nurturing. My thinking being that humans who are more empathetic are also more cooperative, and cooperation has helped humans flourish.
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Do you not think that we'd want to keep the British considering that they invented nearly everything of note for over 200 yrs.
Considering in chemistry, alkaline, alkene, alkane, alcohol, algebra, and so much more of this stuff the Brits supposedly "invented" has Arabic names....I think we've been had...and don't really need them...

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What's the use in getting rid of the top echelon. It makes no sense from a natural standpoint.
West Brits, useless agricultural people who are in need of constant bottom wipings....I think we could do quite well without them....-Pour salt on the leeches before they suck all your blood away....that's what I say.....Ryan-air-ize the Culchee and their little and expensive rat dwellings....
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Not a cull - but a drastic voluntary reduction of the world's population would be in order.

It would be fair to say there is a direct link between the number of people in the world and the levels of greenhouse gases, plastic pollution of the seas etc.. In other words - double the number of people - double the pollution.

If we embark, theoretically, on a world-wide programme to decrease our use-age of fossil fuels and disposable plastics by 50% over a period of 30/40 years and the population doubles in the same period - as it has on previous form - then our efforts are cancelled out.

Somehow we don't hear too much about this side of the problem.
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Problem with over population is that it’s in the under developed parts of the world that they are breeding exponentially, and where we are expected to send aid to, so food aid for contraception, we will feed your current kids in exchange you get a contraceptive shot.....
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If you look at the Catholic churches stance on contraception and the effect it has in poorer parts of the world like the Philippines and some south American countries, it has a lot to answer for. The Muslims too.
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