Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2020/2021

Alonso77 · 24-09-2020 9:49pm

Neco had shown some good signs but looks a bit raw at moment.

Gotta love Origi. Quite unorthodox player but keeps scoring goals and just shrugs it all off.

Turtyturd · 24-09-2020 9:54pm

Interesting to see what kind of team is put out next week. No doubt they’ll go strong with it being one of their two chances at silverware, plus they’ll also want revenge for the kids beating them last season.

rob316 · 24-09-2020 9:55pm

Why aren't premier League clubs banging down the door for divock? When he plays he scores

yourdeadwright · 24-09-2020 9:59pm

Crazy to think we played a midfeild 3 and none of the below started in it

Fab
Hendo
Gini
Milner
Keita
Ox
Thiago

brevity · 24-09-2020 10:00pm

~Rebel~ wrote: »

A decade ago on here when Yossi was having a poor game, he'd get a bit of abuse, and then score out of nowhere. So people started saying "Yossi Smells" to inspire him to score.

Fado fado...

plibige · 24-09-2020 10:04pm

I wouldn't panic even if Williams doesn't develop to Trent levels. Like if we got someone who could play at the level Wes Brown delivered circuit 08/09 filling in when called upon i'd be delighted.

The beauty of our team is the individual isn't as important as the effort. We work hard and that's why we work. And the magic comes from many areas on the pitch

Harry Palmr · 24-09-2020 10:09pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Crazy to think we played a midfeild 3 and none of the below started in it

Fab
Hendo
Gini
Milner
Keita
Ox
Thiago

Gini to Barca has died the death hasn't it. So the pressure to sell Grujic and Wilson must be there.

Zak Flaps · 24-09-2020 10:12pm

How did Fabinho and Jota perform when they came on?

citytillidie · 24-09-2020 10:14pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I didn't dismiss him, I stated the obvious.

Does any FTA channel have League Cup highlights?

Quest have highlights but they had them on last night, not showing any tonight it seems

Gbear · 24-09-2020 10:16pm

rob316 wrote: »

Why aren't premier League clubs banging down the door for divock? When he plays he scores

Not a great time to sell him.

It's the sort of one in normal times where you could see a club giving him a go, but I doubt we'd accept any less than about £40m for him, and I can't see many being willing to pay that at the moment.

I wonder will he end up going on loan.

Harry Palmr · 24-09-2020 10:23pm

citytillidie wrote: »

Quest have highlights but they had them on last night, not showing any tonight it seems

Ta, something to remember for the next round.

garra · 24-09-2020 10:25pm

Gbear wrote: »

Not a great time to sell him.

It's the sort of one in normal times where you could see a club giving him a go, but I doubt we'd accept any less than about £40m for him, and I can't see many being willing to pay that at the moment.

I wonder will he end up going on loan.

That doesn't make sense. If we were offered 30m it would suit the club more to sell him rather than loan him out and let his value depreciate (in terms of his age increasing by a year and his length of contract decreasing by a year).

rob316 · 24-09-2020 10:26pm

Gbear wrote: »

Not a great time to sell him.

It's the sort of one in normal times where you could see a club giving him a go, but I doubt we'd accept any less than about £40m for him, and I can't see many being willing to pay that at the moment.

I wonder will he end up going on loan.

I don't think we'd ask for that much but £30m would do it. Villa paid 28m for Watkins who had one decent season in the championship, mind boggles.

What are his goals to starts ratio? Nevermind the 5 mins he gets at the end of games.

Fitz* · 24-09-2020 10:49pm

rob316 wrote: »

What are his goals to starts ratio? Nevermind the 5 mins he gets at the end of games.

6 goals & 3 assists in 13 starts all comps.

Overall, he played around 1350 minutes which is about 17 full games.

rob316 · 24-09-2020 11:26pm

Fitz* wrote: »

6 goals & 3 assists in 13 starts all comps.

Overall, he played around 1350 minutes which is about 17 full games.

Not bad at all.

He's a good player and finisher but he just don't suit us. Can't do what FIRMINO does or the Salah or mane.

robwen · 24-09-2020 11:30pm

https://twitter.com/Watch_LFC/status/1309064543147044865?s=19

GiftofGab · 24-09-2020 11:40pm

Zak Flaps wrote: »

How did Fabinho and Jota perform when they came on?

Fab wasn't as impactful as VVD. But both had a inexperienced centre back beside them.
Difficult to judge Jota. Wasn't a great debut . Not so much wrong but not much spark. Had a decent shot from outside the box.

GiftofGab · 24-09-2020 11:42pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Taki man of the match
Currently looking like a sharper version of Bobby, Beautiful first finish tonight

Looking that way. Defensively very good too.

DVDM93 · 25-09-2020 12:09am

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1309258690264997891?s=20

marklazarcovic · 25-09-2020 5:39am

He has definitely settled in now,seen him giving instructions to others during the game,and generally ,taking on a bit of responsibility,no hiding. Bargain I feel.

Fitz* · 25-09-2020 9:27am

Really enjoyed the Minamino performance last night. You can tell he has put on a lot of muscle since he first came. His debut against Wolves saw him bouncing off opposition players if they went near him, but last night was the opposite and the 5th goal epitomized that. He was harrying opposition players, using his strength to put them under pressure and win the ball back and still having the energy to sprint into the box to follow up the saved shot and score.

Curtis Jones was also very good, I like his desire to shoot. Sometimes young players can just play the simple pass as they are scared of losing it and often the shot can be the better option. He showed some great feet for his second goal too. There could be a real talent here. Something I didn't think was possible after his debut away at Wolves in the cup 2 seasons ago. (there's a bit of a trend here!)

Shaqiri impressed too, and playing in CM which is quite random. Maybe a shop window performance but a good performance never did anyone any harm. His set pieces are such a use addition. I liked Tsimikas too. Hopefully this is his bar now, and not just a flash in the pan against lower league team. But if this is his level, then we know that Klopp can rest Robertson and be confident now that there will be a very capable replacement in the team, and no offence to Milner but having a player who can go on the outside and still provide width is such an important trait. Unfortunately on the other side, Neco had another poor performance. I won't slate the kid too much as he is young and learning but that is a couple of poor performances in a row. Maybe he is feeling the pressure or the step up. I'll give him time anyways yet. After all, his long term ceiling does not have to be TAA level, it just has to able deputy level.

Agent Coulson · 25-09-2020 9:29am

I think I would keep Shaq & Origi for the season unless amazing offers come in.

Bobby, Mane, Salah, Minamino, Origi, Jota, Shaq and Elliott gives real depth to the front line.

dogbert27 · 25-09-2020 9:51am

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I think I would keep Shaq & Origi for the season unless amazing offers come in.

Bobby, Mane, Salah, Minamino, Origi, Jota, Shaq and Elliott gives real depth to the front line.

Origi is only 25 and signed a new deal last year. He knows his place in the squad, doesn't have a big ego and does what's needed when he plays.

If he's happy to stay as a back up we should be keeping him without discussion.

Origi, Minamino and Jota are great covers for the front three and Shaq and Elliott as further back up definitely strengthens us.

If we don't need to sell anyone for financial reasons then keep the squad.

Last night the midfield could easily have had Ox and Milner starting too. We finally have a good squad size who are all familiar with the way we play.

It's the really fringe players like Wilson, Grujic, Brewster who we should look at selling.

Brewster would need Origi sold to have a chance of playing this season but I don't see Brewster being better than Origi for us right now.

AndyBoBandy · 25-09-2020 9:55am

Jesus lads, a 7-2 win away to canon fodder is a result we'd have been delighted with our 1st team getting only a few years ago, and now our 2nd team are doing it....

The Future is bright, the future is RED.

Also, I think Klopp is going to turn Jota (and Minamino) into a Superstar, World Class talent, thus allowing us to sell assets down the line for £100m+, keeping the club on an extremely even keel.

Klopp, and the structure he's put in place, genuinely is the greatest thing that's ever happened to Liverpool Football Club.

Fcuking Drink It In

DVDM93 · 25-09-2020 10:00am

Messi's farewell message to Suarez.

rob316 · 25-09-2020 10:03am

I'd keep Shaqiri, hes proven over his time here he can make an impact. Fitness is a big problem though.

rob316 · 25-09-2020 10:06am

DVDM93 wrote: »

Messi's farewell message to Suarez.

Well if you needed any further proof Messi will definitely leave this summer.

Vicxas · 25-09-2020 10:07am

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Jesus lads, a 7-2 win away to canon fodder is a result we'd have been delighted with our 1st team getting only a few years ago, and now our 2nd team are doing it....

The Future is bright, the future is RED.

Also, I think Klopp is going to turn Jota (and Minamino) into a Superstar, World Class talent, thus allowing us to sell assets down the line for £100m+, keeping the club on an extremely even keel.

Klopp, and the structure he's put in place, genuinely is the greatest thing that's ever happened to Liverpool Football Club.

Fcuking Drink It In

I always think back to that match in the league cup i think it was where we had to win on penalties and it took like 20 penos to do it. I think that was one of our lowest points. Now look where we are.

Harry Palmr · 25-09-2020 10:11am

Middlesbrough game? Rossiter and Suso scored. Youth!

Wuff Wuff · 25-09-2020 10:19am

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Middlesbrough game? Rossiter and Suso scored. Youth!

felt like one of the coldest anfield nights ever... shorts were a bad decision

gimli2112 · 25-09-2020 10:27am

Barcelona is going to be some shi*show this year. I can see them tearing themselves apart. That's some message from Messi.

DVDM93 · 25-09-2020 10:41am

WTF is wrong with people?

https://twitter.com/TheAnfieldTalk/status/1309264884195098626?s=20

yourdeadwright · 25-09-2020 10:42am

Gotta say I wasn't sure about Taki but he seems a real player ,

Was buzzing around the pitch last night and even thought he is light weight he has a bit of bite to him ,

livinginkorea · 25-09-2020 10:46am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Gotta say I wasn't sure about Taki but he seems a real player ,

Was buzzing around the pitch last night and even thought he is light weight he has a bit of bite to him ,

I'd recon he will start to strengthen up a bit and not get pushed off the ball so easily this season. Really looking forward to seeing how he will develop.

klose · 25-09-2020 10:58am

https://twitter.com/NoContextScouse/status/1309211115872825345?s=19

gafferino · 25-09-2020 11:00am

DVDM93 wrote: »

WTF is wrong with people?

https://twitter.com/TheAnfieldTalk/status/1309264884195098626?s=20

Whats that about?

x43r0 · 25-09-2020 11:30am

DVDM93 wrote: »

WTF is wrong with people?

https://twitter.com/TheAnfieldTalk/status/1309264884195098626?s=20

****ing cretins

gimli2112 · 25-09-2020 11:34am

young lad in Tralee up in the district court last week for sending online abuse to Ian Wright
probably killed several career opportunities for him
social media is one of those things you need to add to the ever expanding list of things not to do when drunk. Driving, parachute jumping, twitter.....

x43r0 · 25-09-2020 11:37am

Some lighter content - A song for Taki

https://twitter.com/cliffdavies34/status/1309232830854107136?s=20

Wuff Wuff · 25-09-2020 11:40am

DVDM93 wrote: »

WTF is wrong with people?

https://twitter.com/TheAnfieldTalk/status/1309264884195098626?s=20

the #LFCFamily twitter merchants strike again

JimboJones99 · 25-09-2020 11:47am

Very impressed by the attitude of the second string last night. I thought their urgency and desire to win the ball back when they lost it was brilliant to see. They could have just strolled round the place and won the ball back without with too much exertion but they hassled and harried brilliantly as if it was Premier League standard they were playing.

As everyone has said Taki seems much more confident and that is showing with every performance. Definitely will be more of an option going forward and no harm for Bobby to have a bit more competition.

Jones definitely has some future ahead of him. I just hope he has patience with LFC and will be happy to bide his time as we have so many options there at the moment. I remember one of his interviews from last season where you could see a little bit of frustration at lack of game time. He spoke well last night but I could see him starting to get more annoyed if he doesn't get game time as the season goes on. He rightly has great confidence in himself and I'm not sure he will want to stick around for long if he isn't playing. We have great options now but with Milner 34, Henderson 30, Wijnaldum & Thiago hitting 30 we will need younger legs in the next 3 years or so and hopefully Jones will be around to become a regular.

Frustrating night for Elliott who tried and tried to get involved but this experience will be good for him. Really think he will become excellant.

There is some player in Shaq, he never be more than a bit part player for us but he could do some job for 16 or so other PL clubs. I would gladly keep him around if finances and his own willingness allowed it.

Same with Grujic but as per Jones there is so many options its hard to see him sticking around. Fine player though.

eigrod · 25-09-2020 11:50am

DVDM93 wrote: »

WTF is wrong with people?

https://twitter.com/TheAnfieldTalk/status/1309264884195098626?s=20

That’s depressing. The World really needs to examine our education systems and improve massively the teaching of basic manners from the age of 5 through to 19.

Harry Palmr · 25-09-2020 11:51am

I'd keep Grujic on the books (albeit maybe on loan again) and look at him as a rotation option for when Milner goes, Jones obviously will get Lallana's time (such as it was!) this season with Wijnaldum leaving next summer at the latest you'd have to think he'll then move up a further. Plus if Shaqiri stays he'll leave in 2021 most likely - spaces will appear in the first team squad.

eigrod · 25-09-2020 11:55am

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I'd keep Grujic on the books (albeit maybe on loan again) and look at him as a rotation option for when Milner goes, Jones obviously will get Lallana's time (such as it was!) this season with Wijnaldum leaving next summer at the latest you'd have to think he'll then move up a further. Plus if Shaqiri stays he'll leave in 2021 most likely - spaces will appear in the first team squad.

I thought there was a limit on the number of times a player can be loaned out - I could be wrong though as Grujic must’ve exceeded any such rule at this stage.

livinginkorea · 25-09-2020 12:06pm

eigrod wrote: »

That’s depressing. The World really needs to examine our education systems and improve massively the teaching of basic manners from the age of 5 through to 19.

Ya the problem is that the technology is far too fast for our education system to catch up with. Even the law if often behind in this respect. Teachers are talking about the dangers of FB and WhatsApp and sharing nudes without having a clue about Tik Tok, SC and IG, for example. There definitely needs to be more workshops to highlight this but often it happens too late. Kids in elementary school already have more of an understanding of technology than most of their parents to tbh.

Another issue too is that parents have to agree to allow their kids to use these apps (if the kids are not 16 they need their parents consent) but often don't police or check their kid's activity. There's YouTube Kids, for example, but many kids don't use it if their parents haven't even figured out the parental lock on their device. Kids mimic what they see online.

It's not just about the teachers teaching the kids (they are not qualified to teach social media or any etiquette after all), but the parents need to keep more of an eye of what their kids are doing online. Kids use their devices more at home than at school after all. We all do.

Not having a go but after teaching for years, I've very strong opinions on this :-) Sorry for going off topic too.

banie01 · 25-09-2020 12:11pm

eigrod wrote: »

That’s depressing. The World really needs to examine our education systems and improve massively the teaching of basic manners from the age of 5 through to 19.

Those tenets are thought at home.
Our children reflect their home and mentors, not their teachers.

The education system shouldn't be tarred as derelict here.
There is plenty wrong with it as is, but the 1st and most important "teacher" of norms and mores is the family.

Unfortunately, far too many parents raise their kids via social media these days and "noteriety" has some sort of cache.

Osmosis Jones · 25-09-2020 12:13pm

eigrod wrote: »

I thought there was a limit on the number of times a player can be loaned out - I could be wrong though as Grujic must’ve exceeded any such rule at this stage.

Chelsea's Lucas Piazon would beg to differ

JimboJones99 · 25-09-2020 12:16pm

All of sudden we seem to have a very strong squad, something that I didnt think we had last season. Our first 11 were exceptional and we had plenty of cover for midfield but other areas seemed weak. There will still be a drop from our front 3 to the backup but hopefully not as obvious as it was.

In the midfield and attacking areas we now have a lovely mix of experience, players at or coming into their peak and very talented youngsters.

Midfield
Milner 34
Henderson 30
Wijnaldum 29
Thiago 29
Oxlade 27
Fabinho 26
Keita 25
Grujic 24
Jones 19

Attackers
Firmino 29
Mane 28
Salah 28
Shaqiri 28
Origi 25
Minamino 25
Wilson 23
Bewster 20
Elliott 17

I know some of these players will move on before the end of the transfer windows. If reports are correct then surely, Wilson, Brewster, Grujic and maybe Shaq but looking at the above I would expect us to challenge on all front this season and be a bit stronger in the cups than we have been in previous years. We are probably still a bit light in defence with the lack of a young prospect apart from Neco at RB and maybe Koumetio.

Exciting times

Agent Coulson · 25-09-2020 12:35pm

I’ve been wondering do Thiago and Jota’s contracts have pandemic clauses in them regarding reduction in wages etc.

I can that becoming more common now with all new contracts in professional sports.

Harry Palmr · 25-09-2020 12:37pm

People say the midfield over overloaded yet in a year it could quite easily be down to a core of

Henderson
Thiago
Fabinho
Keita
Jones

Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2020/2021

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