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    #1562
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    A different scan of this record is available at irishgenealogy.ie - it's not much clearer but might help for comparison.

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    #1563
    KildareFan
    Registered Users Posts: 683 ✭✭✭KildareFan


    The format in other entries is of the firstname and surname of the child, with first name of the father, and mother's first name and maiden name, then the sponsors.

    I'm seeing something like:
    Christopher Ryan son (fil) of Christopherus? and Judith Quan. Looks like one of the sponsors was called Walsh.


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    #1564
    JDERIC2017
    Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭JDERIC2017


    Thank you for your help, the record on irish genealogy proofs this is not the person i am looking for as the mother is different. Thanks all.


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    #1565
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    I wonder can anyone make out the parents in this record, the marriage of Francis Caulfield and Eliza Kenny in Elphin on Feb 11th 1874.
    It's entry number seven.

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    #1566
    mickmackey1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Patrick and Bridget for the groom, Michael and ? for the bride.


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    #1567
    Jellybaby1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    Hermy wrote: »
    I wonder can anyone make out the parents in this record, the marriage of Francis Caulfield and Eliza Kenny in Elphin on Feb 11th 1874.
    It's entry number seven.


    Hard to get it clear, I've inverted, brightened and darkened and all I can get is Patrick & ? and Michael & ?.


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    #1568
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Yeah, I couldn't do much better than the first names myself.

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    #1569
    tabbey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    The civil record, which of course only gives the fathers names, confirms ; Patt Cawfield, deceased and Michael Kenny.

    The "l" is missing in the church record also : Caufield. Presumably a "clerical" error.


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    #1570
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,111 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    rootsireland transcribes it as Patrick Caufield and Brigid Naughten, Michael Kenny and Dorothy McKeon. Witnesses Joan Beirne and Catherine Kenny.


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    #1571
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Great stuff Spurious - thanks for that.

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    #1572
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,111 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I think often times when someone has been up close with an actual register, it's far easier read than the scans, especially some scans which are of very poor quality (the shaky ones).


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    #1573
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    On a related note could you possibly check Roots on the off-chance there's a transcript of the parish record of the marriage of John Caulfield and Lizzie Tiernan in 1905.

    John is supposed to be the son of the above mentioned Francis Caulfield but the civil record of John's marriage names his father as John.

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    #1574
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,111 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Hermy wrote: »
    On a related note could you possibly check Roots on the off-chance there's a transcript of the parish record of the marriage of John Caulfield and Lizzie Tiernan in 1905.

    John is supposed to be the son of the above mentioned Francis Caulfield but the civil record of John's marriage names his father as John.

    rootsireland only has the civil record too.


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    #1575
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Not to worry - thanks for checking.

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    #1576
    kanadams123
    Registered Users Posts: 403 ✭✭kanadams123


    Can i add a photo hear from my desktop?


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    #1577
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    I don't see why not.

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    #1578
    kanadams123
    Registered Users Posts: 403 ✭✭kanadams123


    Sorry, mayby i wasnt clear, HOW can i? Sorry, technology isnt my cup of tea


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    #1579
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Beg your pardon - I completely misread the situation. :)

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    #1580
    kanadams123
    Registered Users Posts: 403 ✭✭kanadams123


    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1934/08973/5247746.pdf

    Ok i found the link to post instead.

    I cant read the Rank/Profession of the bride on Marriage no. 142

    (no worries hermy!!)


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    #1581
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    How to...

    Press Post Reply

    Then scroll down to where it says Manage Attachments.

    Click Manage Attachments and in the window that opens click Browse to find the image on your pc.

    When you find the right image double click it and then click Upload which is on the far right of that new window.

    When the image has uploaded you can close that window and post as usual with the image attached.

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    #1582
    Hermy
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,302 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Domestic as in domestic servant?

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    #1583
    BottleOfSmoke
    Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭BottleOfSmoke


    This from the 1901 census - the transcription has a question mark for Maryanne's relation to the head of the family. The info is there but smudged.
    It's not lodger. Maryanne is unmarried and age 60. I think there are two options:
    1) the sister of the head of family.
    2) the sister of the wife of the head of family, if the wife's maiden name was also same as married name.
    I'm thinking (1) but I'm not sure that's what I'm seeing?

    link to census record


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    #1584
    BigCon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭BigCon


    BottleOfSmoke wrote: »
    This from the 1901 census - the transcription has a question mark for Maryanne's relation to the head of the family. The info is there but smudged.
    It's not lodger. Maryanne is unmarried and age 60. I think there are two options:
    1) the sister of the head of family.
    2) the sister of the wife of the head of family, if the wife's maiden name was also same as married name.
    I'm thinking (1) but I'm not sure that's what I'm seeing?

    Looks like sister (crossed out) and then lodger.
    As in sister to the head of the family.


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    #1585
    BottleOfSmoke
    Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭BottleOfSmoke


    This is also from the 1901 census, where I suspect there is a transcription error under "Where Born".
    The census is for Belturbet, County Cavan. The transcriber has written "Belmullet, Co Cavan." under "Where Born". I think the image actually says Belturbet?
    If there was a townland in Cavan named Belmullet I'd be more accepting, but I can't find one. I'd appreciate a second pair of eyes before I report a transcription error.

    link to census


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    #1586
    kanadams123
    Registered Users Posts: 403 ✭✭kanadams123


    BottleOfSmoke wrote: »
    This from the 1901 census - the transcription has a question mark for Maryanne's relation to the head of the family. The info is there but smudged.
    It's not lodger. Maryanne is unmarried and age 60. I think there are two options:
    1) the sister of the head of family.
    2) the sister of the wife of the head of family, if the wife's maiden name was also same as married name.
    I'm thinking (1) but I'm not sure that's what I'm seeing?

    Thats really difficult to make out.

    Is there a corresponding 1911 census that may show the relation to head more clearley?


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    #1587
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Guys, I'm always asking you this: please post the url to the full page you want help with?

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    #1588
    BottleOfSmoke
    Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭BottleOfSmoke


    kanadams123 wrote: »
    Thats really difficult to make out.

    Is there a corresponding 1911 census that may show the relation to head more clearley?

    She is no longer listed anywhere on the street, so I think she was deceased, thanks for taking a look!


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    #1589
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Definitely Belturbet.

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    #1590
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,616 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I think sister of head of family for the other one.

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    #1591
    Mez1982
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭Mez1982


    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03541/2303425.pdf


    4th Birth down of Robert Phillips. Informant is Robert phillips his mark, something? Highstreet. Can anyone make out what the word is? There's a few other births that have this in them also. Any help appreciated!
    Thank you :)


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