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Jessica Yaniv refused service at gynaecologist's office

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    #752
    AndrewJRenko
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    ingalway wrote: »
    Yes.
    What is your answer?
    That is the answer. Listen to the lady concerned.

    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    The views being expressed in relation to her being set up with a biological male without being informed aren’t abhorrent though. It’s nice that she had no problem with it but other gay women wouldn’t have felt the same about not being informed beforehand. Nothing abhorrent about that at all. It’s odd that she had no problem with her date questioning why she cancelled the second date.
    She seems to think it is abhorrent. Aren't we supposed to be listening to women's voices?


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    #753
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So, we've reached peak, "I know you are, what am I" level of debate. :rolleyes:

    Yup. :D He only makes himself look bad though.


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    #754
    ingalway
    Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭ingalway


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    That is the answer. Listen to the lady concerned.

    She seems to think it is abhorrent. Aren't we supposed to be listening to women's voices?
    I am a woman, I have voiced my concerns. I have asked you a very clear question. Answer this woman please.


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    #755
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    That is the answer. Listen to the lady concerned.



    She seems to think it is abhorrent. Aren't we supposed to be listening to women's voices?

    That’s her opinion. She’s entitled to it. People are not required to agree with that opinion. Listening and agreeing aren’t concomitant. The Guardian didn’t know how she’d react and put her in an awkward position that many wouldn’t be comfortable with.


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    #756
    AndrewJRenko
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Yup. :D He only makes himself look bad though.


    This earlier post applies.

    ingalway wrote: »
    I am a woman, I have voiced my concerns. I have asked you a very clear question. Answer this woman please.


    This earlier post applies.


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    #757
    ingalway
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    That’s her opinion. She’s entitled to it. People are not required to agree with that opinion. Listening and agreeing aren’t concomitant. The Guardian didn’t know how she’d react and put her in an awkward position that many wouldn’t be comfortable with.
    Unfortunately women, especially young women, will often say what they think they are expected to say as we are socialised to be nice, especially to men. I can imagine she was in a very vulnerable position and I don't blame or judge or at all. She probably did the right thing because the last thing any woman, especially a young lesbian wants is TRA's after you. She would be completely ostracised by her peers, as the cult does not allow dissent. Wise and brave of her to cancel the second date though - actions speak louder than words...


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    #758
    ingalway
    Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭ingalway


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    This earlier post applies.





    This earlier post applies.
    PATHETIC


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    #759
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    This earlier post applies.





    This earlier post applies.

    That’s riveting.


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    #760
    AndrewJRenko
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    ingalway wrote: »
    Unfortunately women, especially young women, will often say what they think they are expected to say as we are socialised to be nice, especially to men. I can imagine she was in a very vulnerable position and I don't blame or judge or at all. She probably did the right thing because the last thing any woman, especially a young lesbian wants is TRA's after you. She would be completely ostracised by her peers, as the cult does not allow dissent. Wise and brave of her to cancel the second date though - actions speak louder than words...
    You're only saying that to placate the trolls on here. It's OK, it's very understandable. I don't blame you really.


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    #761
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    ingalway wrote: »
    Unfortunately women, especially young women, will often say what they think they are expected to say as we are socialised to be nice, especially to men. I can imagine she was in a very vulnerable position and I don't blame or judge or at all. She probably did the right thing because the last thing any woman, especially a young lesbian wants is TRA's after you. She would be completely ostracised by her peers, as the cult does not allow dissent. Wise and brave of her to cancel the second date though - actions speak louder than words...

    Her erstwhile date has ‘8/10 Jen’ on her Twitter bio based on the rating she was given after the date or at least did when I looked. Salty as fuck. I mean, hasn’t pretty much everyone at some stage experienced an enjoyable date only to be ghosted afterwards? Welcome to life, Jen. Nobody is entitled to a second date.


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    #762
    ingalway
    Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭ingalway


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    You're only saying that to placate the trolls on here. It's OK, it's very understandable. I don't blame you really.
    The bot has malfunctioned, just keeps repeating same old crap over and over. Time to mute the bot.


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    #763
    ceadaoin.
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    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Have you considered listening to the lady herself who went on the date?

    Have you considered listening to women both on here and elsewhere yourself even if you dont personally agree with them?

    Here's what it might look like:

    Woman A: "I am a lesbian and have no problems considering transwomen as sexual partners, even those with what might be considered male genitalia"

    Response of someone who listens to and respects women: "cool, good for you, that's your personal choice"

    Woman B: "I am a lesbian and I wouldn't consider a trans woman as a sexual partner"

    Response of someone who listens to and respects women: "cool, good for you, that's your personal choice."


    Calling woman b a bigot and transphobe is not listening to and respecting women and their choices.


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    #764
    Beasty
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    AndrewJRenko, do not post in this thread again


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    #765
    Dante7
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    Beasty wrote: »
    AndrewJRenko, do not post in this thread again

    Wow! Thanks for this. The tide is definitely turning. It may be slow like a tanker turning, but once it starts it is unstoppable.


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    #766
    Gynoid
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    https://twitter.com/BlanchardPhD/status/1204182191351246854?s=19

    A bit of humour in a serious situation. A Swedish medical journal - weirdly autotranslated - wonders re phenomenol increase in trans children. Remember testosterone used on a female body even for a short time has irreversible effects like baldness, facial hair and deeper voice. On a young male teen the breasts that grow from even short term estrogen have to be surgically removed.


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    #767
    ingalway
    Registered Users Posts: 652 ✭✭✭ingalway


    Debbie is a transexual woman being bullied by TRA's as she does not conform to the cult

    https://twitter.com/DebbieHayton/status/1204175411409756161?s=19


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    #768
    Dante7
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    Yaniv accused of masturbating to teens online. Quelle surprise!

    https://www.thepostmillennial.com/breaking-jessica-yaniv-accused-of-masturbating-to-underage-teens-on-video/


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    #769
    Calhoun
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    Dante7 wrote: »
    Yaniv accused of masturbating to teens online. Quelle surprise!

    https://www.thepostmillennial.com/breaking-jessica-yaniv-accused-of-masturbating-to-underage-teens-on-video/

    Ouch puts it into context the whole pool party. That and the actual NGO charity who proposed it before hand.

    Its a shame we allot sexual orientation get in the way of child safety protocols we are allowing another catholic priest scenario build up.


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    #770
    Dante7
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    Calhoun wrote: »
    Ouch puts it into context the whole pool party. That and the actual NGO charity who proposed it before hand.

    Its a shame we allot sexual orientation get in the way of child safety protocols we are allowing another catholic priest scenario build up.

    He's a heterosexual male with a fetish and also a hint of paedophilia. It's amazing how the LGB community allowed themselves to get infiltrated by men who get off by pretending they're women.


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    #771
    Sir Oxman
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    Calhoun wrote: »
    Ouch puts it into context the whole pool party. That and the actual NGO charity who proposed it before hand.

    Its a shame we allot sexual orientation get in the way of child safety protocols we are allowing another catholic priest scenario build up.


    Yaniv is heterosexual!
    As are a lot of the men and boys declaring their id as female.



    Let's not conflate the new trans stuff with sexuality - the alphabet soup (T2SQAA blah blah) want to erase sexuality so we get men identifying as lesbians with cocks.
    It's their end game and why women are organising to protect their rights and lesbians are leading the breakaway LGB organisations.


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    #772
    Calhoun
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    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Yaniv is heterosexual!
    As are a lot of the men and boys declaring their id as female.



    Let's not conflate the new trans stuff with sexuality - the alphabet soup (T2SQAA blah blah) want to erase sexuality so we get men identifying as lesbians with cocks.
    It's their end game and why women are organising to protect their rights and lesbians are leading the breakaway LGB organisations.
    Dante7 wrote: »
    He's a heterosexual male with a fetish and also a hint of paedophilia. It's amazing how the LGB community allowed themselves to get infiltrated by men who get off by pretending they're women.

    Its the LGBT communities funeral if they want to allow it to happen. All i am pointing out is the fact that they have people within the community using the status like a bullet proof shield to get away with questionable behavior.

    As i pointed out already Yaniv only suggested the pool party after a charitable organization in Canada had already been rejected from the same. So its not like you can even say its an outlying case.


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    #773
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    This article has to be a pisstake, right?

    https://spectator.us/leave-jessica-yaniv-alone/amp/


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    #774
    Calhoun
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    This article has to be a pisstake, right?

    https://spectator.us/leave-jessica-yaniv-alone/amp/

    I believe Jarvis is a parody account.


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    #775
    Sir Oxman
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    Calhoun wrote: »
    Its the LGBT communities funeral if they want to allow it to happen. All i am pointing out is the fact that they have people within the community using the status like a bullet proof shield to get away with questionable behavior.

    As i pointed out already Yaniv only suggested the pool party after a charitable organization in Canada had already been rejected from the same. So its not like you can even say its an outlying case.




    Oh, I agree with you totally but remember community is a great term to use but it's not always the case - this has come from the top in these orgs and is not supported by all or even a majority <--(I can only guess that)


    This needs repeating often - people including those in 'communities' are intimidated into not speaking out publicly across the Anglosphere - this is the modus operandi of extreme activists.


    However, sunlight is coming.


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    #776
    Calhoun
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    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Oh, I agree with you totally but remember community is a great term to use but it's not always the case - this has come from the top in these orgs and is not supported by all or even a majority <--(I can only guess that)


    This needs repeating often - people including those in 'communities' are intimidated into not speaking out publicly across the Anglosphere - this is the modus operandi of extreme activists.


    However, sunlight is coming.

    Indeed but the sins of the few will impact them all, look at the catholic church and its fall from grace. The LGBT community has just started to turn public opinion in the past few years and i fear crap like this will turn it back.

    Like as i said in this case Yaniv is one person but the organization behind it should have a fairly serious talking to as what they are doing aint helping.

    I watched a trans activist a while back who is fearful as the more people we push to the opposition the bigger the stick for the community and the lashback. I hope it doesn't go that way but there has to be an understanding in society regardless of sexual orientation or creed that children are off limits.


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    #777
    ingalway
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    The LGB 'community', or what is left of it, is being destroyed from within since the T and all the other gender identities were added - none of which relate to sexual orientation.

    I knew things were bad but I've just seen this clip on line and it really made me feel sick. Not only is there a backlash from some of the 'straight' community, who just see LGBTIQK+ as one and are not happy with many of things they see happening, but trans activitists are not even pretending anymore of where they stand, they are clear that "Homosexuality doesn't really exist".

    LGB is dead, all hail our trans masters and their woke handmaidens.

    https://twitter.com/HairyLeggdHarpy/status/1204497249092415490


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    #778
    Calhoun
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    ingalway wrote: »
    The LGB 'community', or what is left of it, is being destroyed from within since the T and all the other gender identities were added - none of which relate to sexual orientation.

    I knew things were bad but I've just seen this clip on line and it really made me feel sick. Not only is there a backlash from some of the 'straight' community, who just see LGBTIQK+ as one and are not happy with many of things they see happening, but trans activitists are not even pretending anymore of where they stand, they are clear that "Homosexuality doesn't really exist".

    LGB is dead, all hail our trans masters and their woke handmaidens.

    https://twitter.com/HairyLeggdHarpy/status/1204497249092415490

    Unfortunately the power of tacking on to the letters was so successful that its coming back to haunt them. As they spoke as one group for a long time, its made it hard to distinguish.

    In fact so successful was it we have actual pedophiles trying to tack on with the minor attracted person (MAP) bull**** and the age of attraction (AOA). The community did in this case join together to tell them to F-Off which is great.

    Will be interesting to see if they can unwind some of it now or if its gone too far. You don't even have to unwind much just the elements that are turning public opinion against you due to social stigma around child protection ect.

    You make a valid point on parts of the community being attacked from within, there was a youtube video linked on these forums before about a gay woman in America who was unpersoned from the community because she dare speak out about sexual harassment from a member of the T community (MtoF). Its quite sad to see it.


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    #779
    [Deleted User]
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    Calhoun wrote: »
    minor attracted person (MAP)


    Was P for Pedophile already taken ? :rolleyes:


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    #780
    Calhoun
    Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Was P for Pedophile already taken ? :rolleyes:

    I know your joking but it was an attempt at rebrand and to tack on to LGBT lettering. They believe they are ok because as long as they are only attracted and don't act on it then its all ok.

    They don't seem to understand though having an age specific attraction range does not mean its a sexuality.

    They were quickly told to go and sling their hook by the LGBT and straight community which was great to see.


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    #781
    Sir Oxman
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    ingalway wrote: »
    The LGB 'community', or what is left of it, is being destroyed from within since the T and all the other gender identities were added - none of which relate to sexual orientation.

    I knew things were bad but I've just seen this clip on line and it really made me feel sick. Not only is there a backlash from some of the 'straight' community, who just see LGBTIQK+ as one and are not happy with many of things they see happening, but trans activitists are not even pretending anymore of where they stand, they are clear that "Homosexuality doesn't really exist".

    LGB is dead, all hail our trans masters and their woke handmaidens.

    https://twitter.com/HairyLeggdHarpy/status/1204497249092415490


    Yep, it's utterly frightening.
    Queer theory in action - an extremely tiny weird faction dictating to the vast majority.


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