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Garda Traffic on Twitter 2

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  • #6852
    Damien360
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭Damien360


    tuxy wrote: »
    Well it does need to be within the 1200 metres to maintain the accuracy of + or - 2 km/h.
    I doubt it would let them get a lock if their hand was too unsteady.

    Might see the return of tripods in use to get a lock at that distance. Haven’t seen one in use in years. Certainly not since the camera vans came in.


  • #6853
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Damien360 wrote: »
    Might see the return of tripods in use to get a lock at that distance. Haven’t seen one in use in years. Certainly not since the camera vans came in.

    I'm sure the technology for the guns has come on a lot the same as everything else. When it comes to handheld guns it's a combination of what the Garda can say he saw and what was recorded on the device that legally stands up in court.


  • #6854
    rizzodun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭rizzodun


    Damien360 wrote: »
    Might see the return of tripods in use to get a lock at that distance. Haven’t seen one in use in years. Certainly not since the camera vans came in.

    Seen a tripod being used behind an unmarked unit on the M18 back in Jan. I would guess it'll become more common.


  • #6855
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,251 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Well, if your phone camera can have shaking compensation abilities I reckon a radar gun can do too.


  • #6856
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users Posts: 6,288 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    flazio wrote: »
    Well, if your phone camera can have shaking compensation abilities I reckon a radar gun can do too.

    Yeah, plenty of phones have optical stabilization and laser depth. I'm sure a speed gun is a bit more high tech than any decent phone in the last 5 years.


  • #6857
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    Yeah, plenty of phones have optical stabilization and laser depth. I'm sure a speed gun is a bit more high tech than any decent phone in the last 5 years.

    Yes as I said I don't see why a highly calibrated gyroscope could not compensate for movement.

    I've never been done for speeding but a few of my friends have and not once have they claimed that the gun was wrong. And that's the old gun with far lower technology.


  • #6858
    kirving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,059 ✭✭✭kirving


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    Yeah, plenty of phones have optical stabilization and laser depth. I'm sure a speed gun is a bit more high tech than any decent phone in the last 5 years.

    In terms of classifying a speed gun as more high tech than something from Apple or Samsung, no way could I agree with that.

    For a start, it's a related, but entirely different technology. There is little need for the laser to include a electronic accelerometer compensation, optical image stabilization, or gyroscope at all in fact. From an optics point of view, an tripod is ideal, but not necessary IMO. the left/right movement isn't important here.

    The only real influence on the speed measurement would the the operators hand moving towards or away from the target.

    The laser will almost certainly take an average (or lowest) of a number of pulses over the measurement time to effectively eliminate any influence of the users hand shake.

    If it were a single image, as a camera might take, then stabilisation would be important to capture a scene, but the cars speed can be reliably measured using a series of pulses.


  • #6859
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Yes perhaps it is fairly simple to monitor speed accurately.
    I guess the new longer range could come from an upgraded laser.

    If the laser can return to the sensor on the gun then the gun has not moved much.


  • #6860
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Is it possible that they’re using a fixed camera 1km down the road from where they’re parked. They seem to be hanging out on on-ramps in the same direction as traffic lately.


  • #6861
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Is it possible that they’re using a fixed camera 1km down the road from where they’re parked. They seem to be hanging out on on-ramps in the same direction as traffic lately.

    Doing that years but yes they are doing it a lot more then ever before....

    The new units take photos.


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  • #6862
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    The new handheld device also give them much more options on where to hide with the increased range.


  • #6863
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Are they saying a handheld device can clock a speed at 1km away?


  • #6864
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Are they saying a handheld device can clock a speed at 1km away?

    Yes


  • #6865
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Are they saying a handheld device can clock a speed at 1km away?

    1.2km
    It's either that or police all over the world have been scammed into buying goods that are not up to specification.
    If it can be held steady enough for the laser to bounce back to the sensor then a reading can be got at that range.
    Consider the tiny fraction of a second it takes a laser to travel that distance, the gun wouldn't have time to move much at all.

    0.0000067 seconds for light to travel 2km but will be a bit longer than that when not in a vacuum.


  • #6866
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,497 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    sundodger5 wrote: »
    I doubt you could trust the accuracy of that reading if the device was handheld.
    Surely it would have to be on a tripod?

    They work on the Doppler effect, so unless the garda is jogging... :rolleyes:

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if these yokes give Judge Zaidan a nice little video clip of what you were up to to have a look at :eek:

    Another Audi driver gets done, I don't mean to generalise, but... :)

    Scrap the cap!



  • #6867
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    They work on the Doppler effect, so unless the garda is jogging... :rolleyes:

    Yeah the user would probably have to move the gun a good few metres in a fraction of a second to have any real impact on the reading. Not sure how that could be achieved.


  • #6868
    joujoujou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,805 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1245822467911933954

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1246022142229086208

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1246026028046311426


  • #6869
    joeysoap
    Registered Users Posts: 6,252 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Are they saying a handheld device can clock a speed at 1km away?
    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Yes

    Approaching and departing.


  • #6870
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,497 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    A "professional driver" shouldn't make such a stupid mistake on a slip road :rolleyes: under normal traffic conditions they'd have crushed 2 or 3 cars... and they can't even claim that they were under pressure to make up time given that there is no congestion. Eejit.

    Scrap the cap!



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  • #6871
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    A "professional driver" shouldn't make such a stupid mistake on a slip road :rolleyes: under normal traffic conditions they'd have crushed 2 or 3 cars... and they can't even claim that they were under pressure to make up time given that there is no congestion. Eejit.

    That slip road is extremely tight though. 20 mph in a loaded isuzu npr curtainsider is hairy enough. If you weren't used to it and you went in too hot in something top heavy, you'd be over handy enough.


  • #6872
    joujoujou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,805 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
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    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1246143036691808258


  • #6873
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    pablo128 wrote: »
    That slip road is extremely tight though. 20 mph in a loaded isuzu npr curtainsider is hairy enough. If you weren't used to it and you went in too hot in something top heavy, you'd be over handy enough.

    Then he should have gone slower


  • #6874
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Then he should have gone slower

    You don't say.


  • #6875
    theintern
    Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭theintern


    pablo128 wrote: »
    You don't say.


    Must be lovely to live in a world like Dravokivichs where you never ever misjudge anything or make any mistakes.


  • #6876
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    theintern wrote: »
    Must be lovely to live in a world where you never ever misjudge anything or make any mistakes.

    Did you quote the correct post?


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  • #6877
    theintern
    Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭theintern


    tuxy wrote: »
    Did you quote the correct post?


    We're both referring to the same original post.


  • #6878
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    theintern wrote: »
    We're both referring to the same original post.

    Yes but I don't think pablo128's replay was backing up that post so I don't think you should be critical of him.


  • #6879
    theintern
    Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭theintern


    tuxy wrote: »
    Yes but I don't think pablo128's replay was backing up that post so I don't think you should be critical of him.


    Em. I'm agreeing with Pablo128?


  • #6880
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    theintern wrote: »
    Must be lovely to live in a world like Dravokivichs where you never ever misjudge anything or make any mistakes.

    I wouldnt consider toppling a truck by driving reckless as a mistake.


  • #6881
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,251 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Unless anyone here was a witness to the incident, we don't know exactly what happened, the driver might have been overworked, distracted by a phone buzzing in his or her pocket or maybe they were been reckless.
    We just won't know.


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  • #6882
    joujoujou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,805 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1246427998162694145

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1246464801078902786

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1246509481673895937


  • #6883
    joujoujou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,805 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1246757533622112257

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1246858180342276099

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1246883945763033093


  • #6884
    joujoujou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,805 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1247085851911356416


  • #6885
    joujoujou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,805 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1247115999037591559

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1247148393505402880


  • #6886
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Car was detained because of Covid19?

    Or just misprint about full licenced driver?


  • #6887
    dastardly00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,457 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Car was detained because of Covid19?

    Or just misprint about full licenced driver?

    I was wondering that too. I am assuming that it's a typo in the tweet and the leaner driver didn't have a fully licensed driver accompanying them.


  • #6888
    joujoujou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,805 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    I guess they wrote "with" instead of "without" (a full licence driver).
    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Car was detained because of Covid19?

    [...]
    Perhaps they heard engine coughing and checked it's temperature. And it was high. :D


  • #6889
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,251 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    OK legal eagles, what's Section 41?


  • #6890
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    This is my guess.

    Section 41(S41) Road Traffic Act, 1994

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1994/act/7/section/41/enacted/en/html

    Perhaps this
    (4) A person who obstructs or impedes, or assists another person to obstruct or impede, a member of the Garda Síochána in the performance of his duties under this section shall be guilty of an offence.

    Turning around to avoid a checkpoint would obstruct a member of the Garda Síochána in the performance of his duties


  • #6891
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,674 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Not garda but someone has a lot of explaining to do

    https://twitter.com/DubFireBrigade/status/1247147708906954753

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • #6892
    joujoujou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,805 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1247163975705346054

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1247201150606196737

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1247276862767804417

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1247444108819476480

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1247447660606390272


  • #6893
    BaronVon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭BaronVon


    flazio wrote: »
    OK legal eagles, what's Section 41?

    S41 of the RTA is the act used to seize a car for having:

    tax more than 2 months out of date,
    learner driving unaccompanied,
    no driving licence
    no insurance
    no nct


  • #6894
    Mr Snow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭Mr Snow


    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1247462084276891648


  • #6895
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Now that's new, using the handheld phone/phablet and anpr capabilities.....

    Now I really like that


  • #6896
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    silverharp wrote: »
    Not garda but someone has a lot of explaining to do

    https://twitter.com/DubFireBrigade/status/1247147708906954753

    Any bets it was a Focus following too closely that did it?


  • #6897
    tossy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,590 ✭✭✭tossy


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Any bets it was a Focus following too closely that did it?

    It was the bass from the sound system


  • #6898
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Any bets it was a Focus following too closely that did it?

    There's 2 videos on the Dublin WhatsApp page on YouTube. He simply veered into a parked car right outside mountjoy Garda station. He ran off too when Gardai appeared.


  • #6899
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    pablo128 wrote: »
    There's 2 videos on the Dublin WhatsApp page on YouTube. He simply veered into a parked car right outside mountjoy Garda station. He ran off too when Gardai appeared.

    I remember years ago someone manged to do exactly that on Bray main street. I couldn't do it if I tried.


  • #6900
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    tossy wrote: »
    It was the bass from the sound system

    Mark Levitation son.


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  • #6901
    joujoujou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,805 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1247476870486130695


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