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Paper Mario: The Origami King

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    I've that downloaded, haven't listened to it yet though. What I've read is that battles outside of what is necessary are completely pointless because there's no exp. points or leveling up, you don’t earn anything for them, you just get coins and confetti, which the game already showers you with throughout the world. We'll see what reviews say in a few days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    Hmm, I hope I have made a mistake in pre-ordering.

    Got it from The Game Collection, £44.95 but need to use Parcel Motel as they are not shipping to Ireland at the moment.

    Link


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    sligeach wrote: »

    Don't go near Twitter if you're buying this game. A couple of ##### have posted images of final boss and end game scenes.

    Saw a small spoiler I keep forgetting not to read the comments people who do that are suck *********

    Can’t wait to play this Friday but I wish this series would return to its RPG routes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach



    I think it's cool some of the objects that the Toads have been turned into. IGN NVC were talking about them, they're everywhere, compared them to the Korok seeds in BOTW. I think I seen there's a room for viewing them in the game.

    Blah... Blah... Blah


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach



    That initial Goomba look reminds me of this gif.
    tenor.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭Irish Halo


    I have this on pre-order and own, I think, all of Mario RPGs since 1,000 Year Door but have honestly not finished any of them, maybe this time will be different?


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭Satturnfalls


    Seen a few places where they said that this is the most decent PM in a long time but its no pm64, Thousand year door, or spm. But still good. Its piqued my interest now. When are the reviews due?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,291 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    2pm our time, I believe


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    The reviews are live now.

    https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/paper-mario-the-origami-king/critic-reviews

    79% from 36 reviews thus far on Metacritic. It's too late to make a prediction, but 80% is about what I was expecting, when you balance it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    I'll post one video review, I'm sure you can find others. It has to be GameXplain, seeing as they've provided the most thorough coverage of the game up to its release.

    Paper Mario: The Origami King - REVIEW (Nintendo Switch)

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=EBT0XlKGE7M

    The biggest criticism overall from the reviews is the combat system. I thought it would be the lack of experience points and RPG mechanics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Wow! The game isn't even out yet, and already people have it running on emulators.

    Nintendo Switch Emulators Yuzu, Ryujinx Can Already Run Paper Mario: The Origami King

    https://wccftech.com/nintendo-switch-emulators-yuzu-ryujinx-can-already-run-paper-mario-the-origami-king/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,291 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    It leaked last week or earlier this week, didn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    It leaked last week or earlier this week, didn't it?

    Ya, I posted about it. But I thought that was people with Switch copies of the game, not this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,291 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    It was data mined at the time so the code would've been dumped for that


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    sligeach wrote: »
    The biggest criticism overall from the reviews is the combat system. I thought it would be the lack of experience points and RPG mechanics.

    It has always looked like they tried to reinvent the wheel so to speak, the whole line up enemy things never sounded particularly compelling. Should just stick to basic turn based combat as Mario & Luigi isn't really a thing for the foreseeable future.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    As a man who really doesn't like turn-based combat, that they've messed around with convention with this release cheers me up no end.

    I would have still bought it though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    INTERVIEW: PAPER MARIO’S DEVELOPMENT TEAM LAYS IT ALL OUT
    NINTENDO AND INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS DISCUSS THE MAKING OF THE ORIGAMI KING AND THE CHALLENGE OF REINVENTING A DECADES-OLD SERIES


    https://www.videogameschronicle.com/features/interviews/paper-mario-origami-king/

    This interview has riled a lot of people and I can absolutely see why.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    sligeach wrote: »
    INTERVIEW: PAPER MARIO’S DEVELOPMENT TEAM LAYS IT ALL OUT
    NINTENDO AND INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS DISCUSS THE MAKING OF THE ORIGAMI KING AND THE CHALLENGE OF REINVENTING A DECADES-OLD SERIES


    https://www.videogameschronicle.com/features/interviews/paper-mario-origami-king/

    This interview has riled a lot of people and I can absolutely see why.

    God that is a hell of an interview, I can only imagine that Tanabe wanted to say those things or else he had no idea how bad it would have sounded as all he was asked are soft questions. Suddenly the decline of Mario & Luigi makes total sense, feel bad for the people who used to work at AlphaDream now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Video on Nintendo Japan Twitter shows some Origami characters from Paper Mario: The Origami King being made.

    Google Translate: [Nintendo HP] "Paper Mario Origami King" official website has been updated.
    "I tried folding an origami character."

    And if you go to the website you will see Youtube videos of the characters being made in full.

    https://www.nintendo.co.jp/switch/aruua/index.html

    It's really cool. Here's Princess Peach.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=YAg6eLYovIU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    I've seen Peach being made before, but that was a while ago and I think it was fan made. The others are new to me. It's mad how they do it.

    Edit: This is the person I seen before make Princess Peach. Though as she says herself it's not true origami. Still impressive, nonetheless. And she goes through step by step, whereas the Nintendo videos don't.

    Make King Olly from Paper Mario the Origami King

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=51wVjNUAWXg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Learn all about the World of Paper Mario: The Origami King! - Nintendo Switch

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=V7_ftbG6bjU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    This was something I just remembered from the GameXplain review a couple of days ago now and I had to make a gif about it. Look at that water! Is there a Nintendo game with more realistic looking water?
    rtkBL6.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,119 ✭✭✭✭sligeach



    I think that's the culmination of their countdown.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Have you bought it yet Sligeach?
    Will you be getting it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    My copy shipped yesterday, hopefully it'll arrived in time for the weekend. Can't wait :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I picked it up this morning in Smyth's but haven't yet played.
    It came with an Origami sheet set and a nice keyring, and as with the other bits and bobs I've gotten from Nintendo as bonuses, I'm afraid to open them!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    So many interrupting tutorial speeches, nearly drove me demented.
    Don't think they are skippable either.
    Otherwise, it's lovely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    Turned it on, sat back and let the awesome writing roll over me. A lot of the dialogue is fairly standard stuff but the little jokes slotted in are so full of heart.

    Just past the first two major bosses and while the ordinary battles take a bit of pushing (once you are levelled high enough, lower level enemies can be defeated instantly so that's nice) the boss battles are a lot of fun.

    That said, I do miss the ordinary RPG battle systems from the previous Paper Mario games I've played but as far as a breath of fresh air goes, this is a winner.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I keep wondering if I might enjoy these games, and been looking at this one but there's a weird consistency about Paper Mario comments: player reviews tend to focus on what the games aren't, rather than what they are. Same here; lots of laments that it's not as RPG focused as the series used to be - that it's not "Thousand Year Door", a 16 year old game.

    So it looks like fun, and still broadly RPG style - but divorced of the yearning for the old approach, is the game any good? What's this game analogous to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    The biggest stumbling block for most people I'd imagine is the battle system, it's very unusual.

    It's a cutesy game, somewhat hand-holdy and extremely colourful. Extremely pretty in parts and the paper theme is very strong in this, money being cardboard, Paper Macho for large and strong Papier Maché characters and loads of arts and crafts aspects (colouring pencils, rubber bands, card tubes, chicken wire etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,535 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I've read a few threads on Facebook that say the game is fantastic. I'm inclined to give it a shot when I get paid. :)
    Played and finished most other PM games - loved the GBA/DS/3DS games.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    So is it a RPG at all then?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    pixelburp wrote: »
    So is it a RPG at all then?

    Not exactly, the player character doesn't appear to level up and only the battle system is turn based and, even then, it's more of a mini game system.
    Call it an action adventure, I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Yeah, it's a lot of fun! It's definitely got all the charm of the previous games. I dunno about anyone else, but I like the battle system, I like figuring out the movements to align the enemies for the best attack possibilities!
    Some of the ones in the battle lab have me stumped though! Going to keep at them...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Not exactly, the player character doesn't appear to level up and only the battle system is turn based and, even then, it's more of a mini game system.
    Call it an action adventure, I suppose.

    Ok, that's a bit more useful as a guide; like I said too much revolved around it "not" being something I had no idea what it was. That price point though, ouch. Nintendo are the Apple of Gaming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭coffee to go


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Not exactly, the player character doesn't appear to level up and only the battle system is turn based and, even then, it's more of a mini game system.
    Call it an action adventure, I suppose.


    So is it closer to a Zelda game than a traditional turn-based (J)RPG? I appreciate that the battle system is obviously turn-based, but it's the actual adventuring bit that's more important? This was the reason that I loved Super Paper Mario and if feels closer to that, then sign me up.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,487 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I keep wondering if I might enjoy these games, and been looking at this one but there's a weird consistency about Paper Mario comments: player reviews tend to focus on what the games aren't, rather than what they are. Same here; lots of laments that it's not as RPG focused as the series used to be - that it's not "Thousand Year Door", a 16 year old game.

    So it looks like fun, and still broadly RPG style - but divorced of the yearning for the old approach, is the game any good? What's this game analogous to?

    Have a look at Bug Fables instead maybe? It’s much closer to The Thousand-Year Door (the best Mario RPG) than Origami King and is cheaper too (was on sale at point also I think).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Not exactly, the player character doesn't appear to level up and only the battle system is turn based and, even then, it's more of a mini game system.
    Call it an action adventure, I suppose.

    Action adventure with turn-based battling and some RPG elements? You get permanent health upgrades through exploration and as your health increases, so does your strength (characters comment that 'you've gotten a bit stronger since you increased your health'). Equitable weapons as well but they break after a while, not too bad as you find weapons around and two fights will usually give you enough cash to buy a new one with each major area having a shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭holly_johnson


    This game is SO much fun! I watched a couple of Twitch streamers play it and I knew I had to buy it. Bought it on Sunday and have been playing solidly since. As a casual gamer I think it’s great coz I’m not very good at video games. The dialogue is very witty and the characters are beautifully designed. Love it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    This game is SO much fun! I watched a couple of Twitch streamers play it and I knew I had to buy it. Bought it on Sunday and have been playing solidly since. As a casual gamer I think it’s great coz I’m not very good at video games. The dialogue is very witty and the characters are beautifully designed. Love it!

    My favourite part so far are the little coffee shops in the 'dungeons' and the arts and crafts bosses. So much heart in the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,134 ✭✭✭holly_johnson


    Rhyme wrote: »
    My favourite part so far are the little coffee shops in the 'dungeons' and the arts and crafts bosses. So much heart in the game.

    The craft boses are really good alright. I found the coloring pencil one very different but fun. The toad dialogue is funny too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    I think I'm nearly finished the game now. It's great, so much charm and for the most part very enjoyable.

    I'm a bit sick of the mini game onslaught at the moment though, that's my only criticism of the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    Have a look at Bug Fables instead maybe? It’s much closer to The Thousand-Year Door (the best Mario RPG) than Origami King and is cheaper too (was on sale at point also I think).

    That game looks great - thanks :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,535 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Played the first part this morning (up to finding Luigi). Loving it so far.
    Not sick of battles (yet!) but I already know I'd prefer an XP/leveling system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,535 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Accolades trailer (for anyone still on the fence)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    Just finished it at lunch there, tense final battle, barely ate any of my sandwich until I was done. Multi-stage as only a Paper Mario final battle can be but well balanced.

    Back I go to Animal Crossing to chill out as the last hour or two of Origami King is so fast and tense. Haven't felt momentum in a game like that in a while. I might go back to it before too long and see if I can seek out some of the treasures and Toads I didn't find and the last health upgrade but I can definitely see myself starting it anew again in the future.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭Satturnfalls


    Will this drop in price eventually or will it keep its value like the main mario games? I want to pick it up. But dont see my self playing it for a while with my backlog.


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