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General Premier League Thread 2019-20 #Mod Notes First post [Updated 24/07/20]

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  • #2
    ~Rebel~
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,977 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    #19


  • #3
    fyfe79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭fyfe79


    ~Rebel~ wrote: »
    #19*

    FYP ;)


  • #4
    gimli2112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    So close to winning a General Prem thread, oh well Champions League spot anyway.


  • #5
    Speak Now
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    All 1130 tests negative in round 4 of testing.


  • #6
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,875 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Coutinho's agent seems to be shopping him around to the premier league heavily today.
    “We’re still waiting until the season finishes before we start talking about anything in terms of transfers,” he told Talksport. “I’ve always said he loves to play in the Premier League. He enjoyed his time very much and if the opportunity arises to come back to the Premier League, whether it be this year or in the future, he’s definitely looking at that.”

    Please please some team come and get my client.

    I remember when he went to Munich on loan their were quite a few saying he would be head and shoulders the best player in the league there.

    Things really haven't worked out for him at all Barca now want €70m odd for him however clubs on want him on loan no one wants to risk being stuck with the Barca/Munich Coutinho.


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  • #7
    8-10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    I'd take him on loan for sure.

    If it's the PL though I'd say he's either going to Newcastle or Chelsea.


  • #8
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Is it the 17th yet?


  • #9
    Bobeagleburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,734 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Is it the 17th yet?

    https://howmanydaystill.com/its/premier-league-restart-1


  • #10
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,508 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Meeting on Thursday after which we should be closer to a fixture list.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/02/some-premier-league-clubs-face-three-matches-seven-days-fixture-list

    Looks like some teams are going to have to accept that they will be on a Monday-Thursday-Sunday rota (kind of thing that the chairman votes for and then the manager protests about when it comes to pass).

    Likely they are going to stick to the original fixture order (I thought they might combine fixtures where a team had say two trips to Manchester left, but it seems not).

    Also up for discussion are substitutes (3 or 5) and neutral venues.


  • #11
    8-10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    Meeting on Thursday after which we should be closer to a fixture list.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/02/some-premier-league-clubs-face-three-matches-seven-days-fixture-list

    Looks like some teams are going to have to accept that they will be on a Monday-Thursday-Sunday rota (kind of thing that the chairman votes for and then the manager protests about when it comes to pass).

    Likely they are going to stick to the original fixture order (I thought they might combine fixtures where a team had say two trips to Manchester left, but it seems not).

    Also up for discussion are substitutes (3 or 5) and neutral venues.

    I think the 5 subs in a max of 3 slots is going to happen, it will surely be pushed by the clubs facing 3 games in 7 days.

    I could also see them allowing 9 on the bench instead of 7 for this reason.

    That one is a dangerous precedent though for future seasons. I can see clubs saying why not keep 5 subs as the new rule if it works well and that will eventually benefit the bigger clubs with bigger squads.

    Also would nearly remove the possibility of players lie Steve Staunton or John O'Shea playing the end of PL games in goal!


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  • #12
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,277 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    8-10 wrote: »
    Also would nearly remove the possibility of players lie Steve Staunton or John O'Shea playing the end of PL games in goal!

    It wouldn't, no.

    that is needed when a 3rd sub has been used. You'd still have used your 5th sub, or 3rd sub slot, for this to be the case. So makes no difference.

    Bigger benches and more subs favours the bigger sides, so I can see it being a bone of contention, especially if people try to keep either next season.


  • #13
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I'm surprised the liverpool players kneeled out of respect for George Floyd it was a really moving gesture, if it happened ten years ago I wouldn't be surprised to see the pool players wearing tshirts with the cop's face printed on it.


  • #14
    PhilipsR
    Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭PhilipsR


    The changing of the subs from 3 to 5 should not be allowed. It literally changes the game that’s being played and for the most part favours the bigger clubs. Shouldn’t be allowed.


  • #15
    Mick McGraw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Mick McGraw


    PhilipsR wrote: »
    The changing of the subs from 3 to 5 should not be allowed. It literally changes the game that’s being played and for the most part favours the bigger clubs. Shouldn’t be allowed.




    And not only does it favour the bigger clubs within games itself it favours them overall across a season because players who may have moved to a smaller club to get more game time have now got 2 extra chances to play each week and it increases the chances for big clubs to hoard players rather than players leave in order to get playing time.


  • #16
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1268132502922825728?s=19

    Amazon to show their 4 games for 'free'. Not sure what that means for coverage in Ireland.


  • #17
    Trigger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,553 ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    DM_7 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1268132502922825728?s=19

    Amazon to show their 4 games for 'free'. Not sure what that means for coverage in Ireland.

    They will be available on the prime video website to Amazon customers I'd say.. Ireland use the .co.uk site anyways for the most part so if you have an Amazon account, just click on the prime video part and you should be able to watch them there


  • #18
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,508 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/06/03/bournemouth-v-crystal-palace-likely-bbcs-first-live-premier/
    Bournemouth v Crystal Palace likely to be BBC's first live Premier League match

    Exclusive: First fixture after lockdown looks like being Aston Villa v Sheffield United in a 6pm kick off on June 17

    The BBC’s first ever live Premier League match is likely to be Bournemouth v Crystal Palace, Telegraph Sport can reveal.

    The historic broadcast has been pencilled in for a Saturday night primetime slot at 7.45pm on June 20, subject to final ratification.

    Telegraph Sport can also disclose that the first Premier League fixture back following the coronavirus crisis is likely to be Aston Villa v Sheffield United on June 17.

    The game has been pencilled in for 6pm that day and will be broadcast by Sky Sports, which is also set to show Manchester City v Arsenal at 8pm.

    Bournemouth v Palace could end up being the most watched Premier League game ever on UK television, breaking the record of 4.04 million viewers who tuned in to watch the Manchester derby on Sky in April 2012.

    However, it could be trumped by the Merseyside derby the same match weekend, which Sky has already announced it will make available free-to-air and which could see Liverpool crowned Premier League champions for the first time.

    The day and kick-off time of that game is pending confirmation on whether it will be staged at Goodison Park or a neutral venue.


  • #19
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Trigger wrote: »
    They will be available on the prime video website to Amazon customers I'd say.. Ireland use the .co.uk site anyways for the most part so if you have an Amazon account, just click on the prime video part and you should be able to watch them there

    We use the uk site alright but unless your account is a UK one the football doesnt show as they dont have the rights here.

    The people that were able to watch the games in December had to switch their accounts to UK ones.


  • #20
    Trigger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,553 ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    We use the uk site alright but unless your account is a UK one the football doesnt show as they dont have the rights here.

    The people that were able to watch the games in December had to switch their accounts to UK ones.

    That's true enough, I have the UK one myself. I thought by free to air would mean that anyone with an Amazon.co.uk account would have access to watch it.


  • #21
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,536 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Trigger wrote: »
    That's true enough, I have the UK one myself. I thought by free to air would mean that anyone with an Amazon.co.uk account would have access to watch it.

    Not if your address is in Ireland on the account. That's the issue not which domain you use.

    The issue is that Premier Sports normally have the rights to games that Amazon show so we'll see what they will do.


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  • #22
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    2 weeks to go hopefully

    ******



  • #23
    5starpool
    Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Fixtures should be announced in the next day or so. it'll be nice to know when to look forward to again for football, albeit a bit of a weird experience.


  • #24
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Time to log back into the Fantasy football account.


  • #25
    Trigger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,553 ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Not if your address is in Ireland on the account. That's the issue not which domain you use.

    The issue is that Premier Sports normally have the rights to games that Amazon show so we'll see what they will do.

    So all people would need to do is set up a UK address (address pal/PM) and change their region themselves to the UK?


  • #26
    5starpool
    Subscribers Posts: 32,855 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Trigger wrote: »
    So all people would need to do is set up a UK address (address pal/PM) and change their region themselves to the UK?

    I think you have to get support to do it, but usually only takes a minute or so I believe. I haven't done it myself, but I know plenty who have.


  • #27
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Trigger wrote: »
    So all people would need to do is set up a UK address (address pal/PM) and change their region themselves to the UK?

    I think people were getting Amazon to do it, just tell them you are back in the UK for work after lockdown.


  • #28
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭adox


    5starpool wrote: »
    I think you have to get support to do it, but usually only takes a minute or so I believe. I haven't done it myself, but I know plenty who have.

    Yeah this is correct. Apart from the footie(which was great btw, great coverage and fantastic picture) you also get a bigger library.


  • #29
    Trigger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,553 ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    I have that done anyways for my prime video account, but surely that is only if you have a primevideo acc, at least that is what the request is when you ask. You can by all means change to your region and address yourself on your normal Amazon account, so that may work for the FTA, especially if you use a VPN


  • #30
    8-10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/06/03/bournemouth-v-crystal-palace-likely-bbcs-first-live-premier/



    Aston Villa v Sheffield United first game back

    Bournemouth v Crystal Palace the first BBC game



    Really testing how much we all missed the EPL during the past few months. Those fixtures should bring us back down to earth! :pac:


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  • #31
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Well Villa V Sheff Utd will be played before Man City V Arsenal in a double header.

    ******



  • #32
    Royale with Cheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    I have Premier Sports through Now TV and a UK Amazon Prime account, so both streaming and was able to directly compare the two when Amazon last broadcast a round of games.

    Absolutely laughable. I've never seen anything look as good as the Prime stream and haven't seen a stream look as bad as Premier Sports since about 2005. Even the dodgy streams I've used over the past 10 years would be head and shoulders above Premier Sports. Sky Sports and BT look absolutely fine through Now TV too so that wasn't the issue.


  • #33
    Trigger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,553 ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Royale with Cheese wrote: »
    I have Premier Sports through Now TV and a UK Amazon Prime account, so both streaming and was able to directly compare the two when Amazon last broadcast a round of games.

    Absolutely laughable. I've never seen anything look as good as the Prime stream and haven't seen a stream look as bad as Premier Sports since about 2005. Even the dodgy streams I've used over the past 10 years would be head and shoulders above Premier Sports. Sky Sports and BT look absolutely fine through Now TV too so that wasn't the issue.

    Yeah even Premier Sports when it was on the normal TV was terrible. Same with Eir sport until a couple of years ago when they have put a bit more into it.

    The prime streams for the Sports that they show are all absolutely fantastic and I do hope they continue to buy up games


  • #34
    Mushy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,476 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Royale with Cheese wrote: »
    I have Premier Sports through Now TV and a UK Amazon Prime account, so both streaming and was able to directly compare the two when Amazon last broadcast a round of games.

    Absolutely laughable. I've never seen anything look as good as the Prime stream and haven't seen a stream look as bad as Premier Sports since about 2005. Even the dodgy streams I've used over the past 10 years would be head and shoulders above Premier Sports. Sky Sports and BT look absolutely fine through Now TV too so that wasn't the issue.

    Only thing with the streaming I find is the lag (I've poor enough internet where I am now). Got now tv for first weekend of Bundesliga and was getting live score notifications well before the goal (at one stage got notification for a goal before a game had kicked off on stream). Have to go the satellite subscription route then to have any quality


  • #35
    Royale with Cheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Yeah you need to stay off your phone. I had friends using this as a black mark against Amazon but I've been streaming games legally and otherwise for 10+ years without a TV subscription so completely used to it now.


  • #36
    Mushy
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    Royale with Cheese wrote: »
    Yeah you need to stay off your phone. I had friends using this as a black mark against Amazon but I've been streaming games legally and otherwise for 10+ years without a TV subscription so completely used to it now.

    Yeah I wouldnt blame Amazon, same happened sky go. With crap internet, itll be a while before I go full streaming. It is the future though, and I think UBS will get better deals for themselves


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  • #37
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Royale with Cheese wrote: »
    I have Premier Sports through Now TV and a UK Amazon Prime account, so both streaming and was able to directly compare the two when Amazon last broadcast a round of games.

    Absolutely laughable. I've never seen anything look as good as the Prime stream and haven't seen a stream look as bad as Premier Sports since about 2005. Even the dodgy streams I've used over the past 10 years would be head and shoulders above Premier Sports. Sky Sports and BT look absolutely fine through Now TV too so that wasn't the issue.


    NowTV up until recently only streamed at 720p as well but I’m sure it wasn’t even that quality.

    It’s also laughable(if I read it correctly) that you can now pay extra to get 1080p streams on it. Typical gouging by Sky. Charging extra for HD in this day and age is a joke.


  • #38
    ERG89
    Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    Royale with Cheese wrote: »
    I have Premier Sports through Now TV and a UK Amazon Prime account, so both streaming and was able to directly compare the two when Amazon last broadcast a round of games.

    Absolutely laughable. I've never seen anything look as good as the Prime stream and haven't seen a stream look as bad as Premier Sports since about 2005. Even the dodgy streams I've used over the past 10 years would be head and shoulders above Premier Sports. Sky Sports and BT look absolutely fine through Now TV too so that wasn't the issue.

    I remember Premier Sports didn't have the advertised match choice until the second half had started of all those games.


  • #39
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Arsenal ready to sell auba for around 20m. Bargain


  • #40
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Royale with Cheese wrote: »
    I have Premier Sports through Now TV and a UK Amazon Prime account, so both streaming and was able to directly compare the two when Amazon last broadcast a round of games.

    Absolutely laughable. I've never seen anything look as good as the Prime stream and haven't seen a stream look as bad as Premier Sports since about 2005. Even the dodgy streams I've used over the past 10 years would be head and shoulders above Premier Sports. Sky Sports and BT look absolutely fine through Now TV too so that wasn't the issue.

    I ended up switching back to Premier Sports on sky because Amazon was over a minute behind. Had to turn notifications on on the phone too because goal alerts were coming through ages before the goals were score on the stream.

    Need to stay off boards and stuff too.

    EDIT, Mushy got there first.


  • #41
    Nunu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    Nah I loved Amazons coverage. Just put the phone away during game.


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  • #42
    Bobeagleburger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,734 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    Nunu wrote: »
    Nah I loved Amazons coverage. Just put the phone away during game.

    Yep, can't be that hard tbf!


  • #43
    8-10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Nunu wrote: »
    Nah I loved Amazons coverage. Just put the phone away during game.

    Yeah I just put it in another room, good time to charge it.


  • #44
    Quazzie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,059 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    I actually find the slight delay useful. It means I get notification of an upcoming goal, and I find myself paying more attention to the build up play.


  • #45
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Nunu wrote: »
    Nah I loved Amazons coverage. Just put the phone away during game.

    I always stick my phone on silent and facedown for games. I do stream all games so there’s always a slight delay no matter who the provider.

    Amazons coverage was great I thought. A real surprise. PQ was spectacularly good too.


  • #46
    Wuff Wuff
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Wuff Wuff


    i liked how on the amazon coverage you could turn the commentary off as well,

    although for the merseyside derby Ally McCoist sounded like a giddy schoolchild at his first match haha


  • #47
    Fitz*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,033 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Wuff Wuff wrote: »
    i liked how on the amazon coverage you could turn the commentary off as well,

    although for the merseyside derby Ally McCoist sounded like a giddy schoolchild at his first match haha

    I don't blame him, Liverpool's 2nd string scored 5! :p


  • #48
    8-10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    8-10 wrote: »
    I think the 5 subs in a max of 3 slots is going to happen

    5 substitutes rule was approved today


  • #49
    Speak Now
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    8-10 wrote: »
    5 substitutes rule was approved today

    And 9 on the bench!


  • #50
    Fitz*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,033 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    That's great news for a lot of younger players who would otherwise be struggling for minutes with packed squads.


  • #51
    Mick McGraw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Mick McGraw


    FitzShane wrote: »
    That's great news for a lot of younger players who would otherwise be struggling for minutes with packed squads.


    It’s fine as a temporary measure till the end of the season but if it’s introduced for good (and I have a bad feeling it will be) then it will be a very poor move for the game as it will massively favour the bigger clubs and allow them to stockpile more talent as they will have more playing time available for bit part players so it decreases the likelihood of those sorts of players moving to get more playing time.


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