Will you fly/travel in the EU this year if it feels safe to do so? And to where?

josip wrote: »

€190 a head would be an €760 additional tax we'd have to pay for our holiday.
I think we'd stay at home on financial grounds and we wouldn't spend any of the savings domestically if Ireland imposes that policy.
I pay enough tax during the year without subsidising an overpriced domestic tourist sector.

I applaud your decision to stay in Ireland -more and more ppl have realised a staycation for once is not a huge sacrifice to make so kudos.

faceman wrote: »

Another one of your nonsense posts. You haven’t responded to my earlier one. Again can you explain how Irish travellers flying to a country of lower risk is putting the public health at risk?

Common sense and not nonsense - Anyone who leaves Ireland and circulates on an international flight and then in an international airport -regardless of their final destination- is at higher risk than someone who stays at home.

faceman wrote: »

Been reading the Spanish news today and it looks like the Spanish are moving the goalposts with their original border opening on 1st July.

It looks like now they are looking for reciprocal arrangements with countries and of course acceptable viral rates.

This could jeopardise Irish travellers until such a time the Irish government relaxes quarantine and changes travel advisories.

They are going to publish criteria on Tuesday

Yes just been reading.

The current news carried by the state radio/tv service RTVE is that after a morning of confusion with different departments of the central government in Madrid contradicting each other, the plan now is for the 2 main Spanish land borders with France and with Portugal to open for tourists from 1st July.

The issue of possible earlier openings for tourist flights to some of the Spanish islands remains unclear, however.

(The other 2 land borders with Andorra and with Gibraltar have not been mentioned yet in these reports.)

Caranica wrote: »

The one that says you have to give notice of the location of your 14 days self isolation on arrival into the country.

As long as you are aware the isolation isn’t mandatory.

I will fight like tigers and lions to protect my vulnerable family members. Some ppl do NOT want to hear reason on this topic.

I and some advocacy groups Im involved in have been lobbying various TDs and thankfully most say they are in favor of prolonging this for a while longer to get the R rate even lower.

Foreign travel is discouraged and rightly so.

Ppl should be thanking their lucky stars they do not have vulnerable friends or family members if that is the case. Lucky you.

But they should also have the basic adult cop on and intelligence not to re ignite the virus trail into Ireland through unnessecary travel.

I read on RTE that international travel will return in weeks to countries that have flattened the curve like Ireland has. Good news for people who want to travel.

Simon Harris being bitchslapped back into line by the EU then.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Good for her and good for anyone who wants to risk their lives to C19 but where I draw the line is where ppl re introduce c19 into the community and raise the R rate.

Unforgivable selfishness.

What's your opinion on people who choose to travel to other counties from next week and risk raising the R rate within their own county?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0605/1145568-covid19-coronavirus-phase-2-restrictions/

Ppl should stick to the advice as much as possible and avoid unnecessary travel is my view on it

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Ppl should stick to the advice as much as possible and avoid unnecessary travel is my view on it

Yes snd the advice is that we’ll be “allowed” travel to countries with the same or lower risk as our own country in the coming weeks.

The good news is that internal borders are continuing to open up across Europe.

• The European Commission, which drafts EU laws, wants the 27 member states to lift their internal border controls by 1 July. Most are in the Schengen zone, where citizens enjoy passport-free travel, but the pandemic brought border lockdowns across Europe. EU Home Affairs Commissioner Ylva Johansson announced the plan on Euronews, and the states’ home affairs ministers are discussing easing border controls today
  
• The EU makes a big distinction between internal and external borders; the talk is not about lifting controls for non-EU travellers arriving in the bloc. Some border controls have already been lifted. Today the Czech Republic is lifting its controls with neighbours Austria, Germany, Hungary and Slovakia

Well I've taken the chance and booked flights to Lanzarote from Dublin for July 20th to July 28th today. €130 return!!

Obviously had a lot of reservations but actually C19 was a little down the list.

Worries would be will hotel amenities e.g bar, pool buffet breakfast be available?

Will bars ,restaurants and main strip be open and to what extent?

But I figured tourism is Lanzarote's be all and end all so it's in their interests to have things open. They have allowed Spanish tourists in from June 1st and from July international tourists will be allowed in. However it seems they are viewing this on a country by country by basis. So hopefully they realise we aren't in the UK!!

Actually a total bonus would be if we're allowed in and the British weren't!! Total Win Win!! However money talks and I'd say all EU countries plus UK will be allowed back in pretty early in July.

jonnny68 wrote: »

My god catch yourself on mate,your a prophet of doom , one of these lockdown fanatics

My concern is for my family and friends with various underlying issues such as

Chronic Cancer
Down’s syndrome
Heart issue
Asthma
CF
ME
Chronic disease

Maybe just MAYBE you should “catch yourself on mate”

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

My concern is for my family and friends with various underlying issues such as

Chronic Cancer
Down’s syndrome
Heart issue
Asthma
CF
ME
Chronic disease

Maybe just MAYBE you should “catch yourself on mate”

Your selfishness and complete inability to consider anybody's else's wants or needs is quite breathtaking at this stage.

You obviously think that the world revolves around you and your loved ones with their underlying conditions. Well actually it doesn't.

The sale of alcohol doesn't stop despite the risk to chronic abusers.

The sale of and use of tobacco doesn't stop despite all the health risks.

Road traffic doesn't stop because of all the road fatalities.

In short the world doesn't stop. Vulnerable people have to take responsibility for protecting themselves and not exposing themselves to danger.

And it's the same with Covid now that we have reached this point of containment.

You are both selfish and naive if you expect people to sacrifice their right to travel to protect your loved ones. The fact is they won't. People have their own priorities and their own needs which they quite rightly put first, not to mention all the economic reasons to open up the travel market. But you don't care about any of that, do you?

Keep your loved ones isolated if you think there is still too high a risk of infection.And look in the mirror before you go around calling other people selfish!

Won’t be commenting on the obvious trolls post