Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Coronavirus and the effect on Public transport
Options
Comments
-
Unfortunately "Washing your hands" will do little to help *. This is primarily spread by airborne particles. Washing your hands will do nothing if you breath it in.
The advice really is:
- Stay at home if you can
- If you can't stay at home, then social distance.
- If you can't social distance, wear a mask.
* Washing your hands of course is something you should do anyway to stop you getting a variety of diseases. But it won't stop you from getting Covid19.
Indeed,however I differ from your interpretation of the usefullness of handwashing in the Covid19 scenario.
https://www.hpsc.ie/news/newsarchive/2020newsarchive/title-19837-en.htmlHand hygiene is one of the most important things that we can do to stop the spread of COVID-19 infection, as well as preventing all the other infections that are still out there. This is true for people who work as healthcare workers and also for everyone in the home or in the workplace.
Doubtless,as you say,universal facecovering usage may also contribute to a degree of protection,however,from my own daily observations,a significant number of Facemask wearers on PT are fixating on 'The Mask' itself,to the detriment of other more basic elements.
The HSE itself has also recognised this issue from a while back...
https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/how-coronavirus-is-spread.htmlYou can also get the virus from surfaces, for example, when someone who has the virus sneezes. Droplets containing the virus can fall onto surfaces around them. If you touch that surface and then touch your eyes, nose or mouth, you could become infected too.
Wearing a face covering can protect you. But you should still do the important things necessary to prevent the spread of the virus.
These include:
social distancing
covering coughs and sneezes
washing your hands properly
not touching your eyes, nose or mouth if your hands are not clean
Meanwhile,the CSO figures indicate a significant general Road Traffic issue about to burst over us upon the return of Schools & Colleges (Unless some more realistic guidelines are put in place for Public Transport usage)
https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/br/b-tb/transportbulletin01march2020to08august2020/The pace of recovery of road traffic volumes for cars and HGVs to pre COVID-19 levels continues to outstrip that of public transport passenger numbers
General traffic volumes in Dublin are now back to c.85% of BC (Before Covid) levels.
2nd August 2019 weekly volume 558,014.
2nd August 2020 weekly volume 466,785.
With combined Public Transport usage now remaining at c.60% and no clear indication that the current official push to encourage long-term mass cycling as the way forward,will actually bear fruit,there is a developing weather front just over the horizon.
Fasten your seat-belts or batten down your hatches
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
0 -
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
I see some bus drivers now are going back to driving with the assault screen either fully or partially down. Saw one driver the other day who was wearing a mask and had the screen the full way down saw another driver today with no mask and the screen halfway down.
For the last 6 months virtually every driver had the full way up. I wonder will future orders for new buses come with an assault screen that cannot be opened and closed like in London
Perhaps you should wonder a bit less ?
The permanent non adjustable TfL standard screen,cashless operation and multi-door usage did little to protect the 29 (out of 25,000) London Busdrivers who's deaths were attributed to Covid-19.
Initial studies there,appear to point to far more complex,and perhaps less palatable causitive factors than a sheet of polycarbonate.
Busdriving has long been acknowledged as an unhealthy occupation,with Hypertension and other stress related factors featuring across the world.
Thankfully,so far we in Dublin appear to have avoided any Busdriver Covid fatalities,which may be down to a number of issues such as an earlier reaction on all fronts.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-deaths-london-bus-drivers-earlier.html
It is also noteworthy,that Covid infection models worldwide have NOT featured Public Transport to any great degree as a factor in the spread of the virus,even allowing for multi-Governmental recommendations to avoid using Public Transport or restricting it's use to 'essential' travel,whatever that means ?
https://blogs.worldbank.org/transport/fight-against-covid-19-public-transport-should-be-hero-not-villain
There is little to be gained from debating the merits/demerits of fixed vs adjustable assault screens,unless those doing the debating have some experience of operating from behind them.
Personally,I would far prefer to be in a situation whereby I did not require ANY screen,however since the required level of social behaviour and legal protection is not there,I must therefore tolerate what we have.
I am suggesting that there are a great many elements of the current Covid-19 situation which merit continuing vigilance and caution,however embarking on some form of "Bus Assault Screen Survey" with the apparent intention of imposing design changes across an industry,may well be something of an overreaction ?
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
0 -
Perhaps you should wonder a bit less ?
The permanent non adjustable TfL standard screen,cashless operation and multi-door usage did little to protect the 29 (out of 25,000) London Busdrivers who's deaths were attributed to Covid-19.
Initial studies there,appear to point to far more complex,and perhaps less palatable causitive factors than a sheet of polycarbonate.
Busdriving has long been acknowledged as an unhealthy occupation,with Hypertension and other stress related factors featuring across the world.
Thankfully,so far we in Dublin appear to have avoided any Busdriver Covid fatalities,which may be down to a number of issues such as an earlier reaction on all fronts.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-deaths-london-bus-drivers-earlier.html
It is also noteworthy,that Covid infection models worldwide have NOT featured Public Transport to any great degree as a factor in the spread of the virus,even allowing for multi-Governmental recommendations to avoid using Public Transport or restricting it's use to 'essential' travel,whatever that means ?
https://blogs.worldbank.org/transport/fight-against-covid-19-public-transport-should-be-hero-not-villain
There is little to be gained from debating the merits/demerits of fixed vs adjustable assault screens,unless those doing the debating have some experience of operating from behind them.
Personally,I would far prefer to be in a situation whereby I did not require ANY screen,however since the required level of social behaviour and legal protection is not there,I must therefore tolerate what we have.
I am suggesting that there are a great many elements of the current Covid-19 situation which merit continuing vigilance and caution,however embarking on some form of "Bus Assault Screen Survey" with the apparent intention of imposing design changes across an industry,may well be something of an overreaction ?
The setup now on London buses as seen in this video creates an almost airtight seal between the drivers cab and the passenger compartment. The driver is this video also speaks about how buses the seat beside the driver which is something prevalent on buses outside Dublin could be done away with for once and for all.
https://youtu.be/NHvWe07GvOo
I see rear door boarding now is something becoming more permanent on the continent. Mask and lockdown free Sweden now have scrapped front door boarding on urban buses on what's looking to be a more permanent basis.
The face covering debate also seems to be continuing too this time in Galway.
https://youtu.be/-CP8ZdsFyMg0 -
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
dashcamdanny wrote: »the only drivers I know who keep it down are people who have recovered from covid19. And most likely immune .
At this stage of proceedings,everybody is aware of the Corona situation.
Ireland as a country has adopted a certain response strategy,which on reflection appears to have worked far better than other countries.
The issue of Immunity remains a live one and currently being debated widely within the medical communities.
Yet,in the midst of it all,we can take some satisfaction from the HSE's statistics...
https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/
Total Population - 4.930,000
Total Tests Completed - 961,579.
Total CV-19 Infections - 30,730.
7 Day testing - 71,685.
Positivity Rate - 1.8%
Total CV-19 Related Deaths - 1,783.
A significant number of people have NOT died from Covid-19.
A significant number of people do not appear to have been infected with Covid- 19.
So are we to assume we are ALL going to be infected with Covid - 19 or do we tread warily and make informed decisions based upon a reasonable chance of remaining Covid - 19 free ?
From my daily observations,Most people are attempting to live their lives in as reasonable a manner as possible,it's not back to normal,but a compromise.
The alternative,as is becoming evident in other juristictions,appears to be increased Policing and the Suspension of Civil-Rights across a wide scope of Society.
Thankfully,Most Irish people appear to be capable of proceeding calmly and without widespread thickery,but in any free and open society,these outlying folks HAVE to be accomodated and given their moment of fame,that's the price of democracy,innit ?
I'm sure some on here and elsewhere,will already be pointing a quivering finger in the direction of winter and 'Flu Season' accompanied by dire predictions of mass fatalities and overflowing hospitals,whilst others will be wondering when Santy is coming to Switzers (
) Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
0
Advertisement