Black Friday Laptop deals?

bonsai_73 · 21-11-2018 9:41pm

glasso wrote: »

this is much better value. discrete graphics card for 609 euro

https://www.lenovo.com/ie/en/laptops/ideapad/700-series/Ideapad-720-15/p/88IP7000910

Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that one. So even with the slightly older processor, this one would be the better buy all round? Sorry if it's a stupid question, I'm not really familiar with how much difference I would expect to see between the two generations of processor.

21-11-2018 9:50pm

bonsai_73 wrote: »

Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that one. So even with the slightly older processor, this one would be the better buy all round? Sorry if it's a stupid question, I'm not really familiar with how much difference I would expect to see between the two generations of processor.

It would yes. Has a decent graphics card. The cpu will be fine for non graphics stuff.

In terms of the two you had the rzyen is better.

Up to you. If you think that you'd be interested in games or video editing the discrete graphics card is very useful.

If not maybe just go for one of the other ones

here's a comprehensive review. was normally 960 euro

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-IdeaPad-720-i5-7200U-RX-560-Laptop-Review.309832.0.html

21-11-2018 9:56pm

roady rhodes wrote: »

HP 15.6 Inch i5 8GB 1TB FHD Laptop - Silver

Anyone shed some advice on this one?

€553 in argos

slow hard drive. non ssd

again I'd go for the lenovo 720s with the rx560 for a bit more.

roady rhodes · 21-11-2018 10:07pm

glasso wrote: »

slow hard drive. non ssd

again I'd go for the lenovo 720s with the rx560 for a bit more.

Thanks for response glasso

Would Lenovo be similar quality to HP?

I would be coming from a 4GB RAM,is 8GB much faster?

I'm not a gamer but just use it to browse and watch movies and stuff

Also can it be upgraded with an ssd in future if needeed ?

21-11-2018 10:14pm

lenovo used to be ibm laptops.

you can upgrade the other one to ssd yes.

8gb is preferable. windows operation is more about the cpu and ssd/no ssd then ram (unless running programs that use a lot of ram then it would be noticeable)

bonsai_73 · 21-11-2018 10:24pm

glasso wrote: »

It would yes. Has a decent graphics card. The cpu will be fine for non graphics stuff.

In terms of the two you had the rzyen is better.

Up to you. If you think that you'd be interested in games or video editing the discrete graphics card is very useful.

If not maybe just go for one of the other ones

here's a comprehensive review. was normally 960 euro

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-IdeaPad-720-i5-7200U-RX-560-Laptop-Review.309832.0.html

Thanks for that. I really appreciate your advice.

geezerbutler · 21-11-2018 10:25pm

Hi as a new user I cannot post link but if you search amazon uk for pavilion ab404na you can get an i7 8th generation processor laptop with 8gb RAM (i think this is extendible to 16gb) with 128gb SSD and 1TB HDD. With sterling weak at moment it is less than 1000 euro. Am thinking of getting it myself next Friday - note it does not have microsoft office

21-11-2018 10:43pm

geezerbutler wrote: »

Hi as a new user I cannot post link but if you search amazon uk for pavilion ab404na you can get an i7 8th generation processor laptop with 8gb RAM (i think this is extendible to 16gb) with 128gb SSD and 1TB HDD. With sterling weak at moment it is less than 1000 euro. Am thinking of getting it myself next Friday - note it does not have microsoft office

there is less than 10% between the mobile u series i5 and i7 in terms of performance so it's usually not worth it for the extra money for the i7 tbh.

1000 euro is not an amazing deal for that tbh.

also depends on the screen quality and overall weight, quality of keyboard and trackpad etc.

geezerbutler · 21-11-2018 10:52pm

the pavilion ab404na is not a U series i but a H series i7-8750H - which I understand has 6 cores. I could not find any other laptops with these specs at this price

torrevieja · 21-11-2018 11:28pm

Be careful buying Laptops in Argos Mine was a two year old model not the latest

lolliedog · 22-11-2018 1:17am

geezerbutler wrote: »

the pavilion ab404na is not a U series i but a H series i7-8750H - which I understand has 6 cores. I could not find any other laptops with these specs at this price

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GM-EN366T-ASUS-FX504GM-EN366T-Gaming-Laptop_2400280.html

A little more money but good spec.

hopgirl · 22-11-2018 2:12am

https://www.harveynorman.ie/computing/laptops/lenovo-yoga-520-14-core-i3-8gb-256gb.html
Hi looking at this laptop wondering is it worth the price?

Doge · 22-11-2018 2:36am

glasso wrote: »

In terms of the two you had the rzyen is better.

You sure about that?
Single thread performance and overall performance have scored higher for the Intel i5 on cpubenchmark.net:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2500U-vs-Intel-i5-8250U/3123vs3042

You can't go solely based on clock speed and cache size anymore as the architectures of CPUs have got more complicated over the years.

Looks like the Dell is a winner at €40 less.

As for the OP that asked originally, Ryzen processors are great too and are usually better value but not in this case for some reason, I use a Ryzen 5 1600 in my Gaming Rig and it was unbeatable value at the time.

Doge · 22-11-2018 2:43am

hopgirl wrote: »

https://www.harveynorman.ie/computing/laptops/lenovo-yoga-520-14-core-i3-8gb-256gb.html
Hi looking at this laptop wondering is it worth the price?

That processor is very poor for the price.
And do you need a 2 in 1 laptop?
It basically means it has a touch screen so you can use it like a tablet also.
The 2 laptops bonsai posted are much better value, the Dell being the best in value from what I can see.
I'm not a fan of Currys after sales service though. Not sure if they improved over the years.

bonsai_73 wrote: »

Does anyone have any feedback on either of these two? Pretty similar in price and spec. Main difference seems to be one has an i5 and the other has a Ryzen 5 (which I'm not familiar with at all). I have a Lenovo at the moment so on the one hand I'm leaning towards that as the build is familiar, however the AMD chip is not. The Dell obviously has the familiar Intel chip, and seems to have better battery life. Any reason to buy one of these over the other ?

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-330s-15-6-amd-ryzen-5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-grey-10180850-pdt.html

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-inspiron-15-3000-15-6-intel-core-i5-laptop-256-gb-ssd-black-10186254-pdt.html

22-11-2018 3:16am

geezerbutler wrote: »

the pavilion ab404na is not a U series i but a H series i7-8750H - which I understand has 6 cores. I could not find any other laptops with these specs at this price

send a link to it. what is your intended use?
standard stuff like browsing and media consumption or planning on gaming (which would require a graphics card not just a powerful cpu)

NSAman · 22-11-2018 4:24am

Not sure if it works in Ireland.

I use a savings coupon APP called Honey. Last HP computer I ordered was on sale and honey saved me another 600 dollars...with a coupon.. so instead of $3K I spend less than $2K on a special build.

autumnalcore · 22-11-2018 9:06am

Whatever about the CPU, Graphics and memory Inspiron 5000 series have crappy TN panels with woeful viewing angles and gamut. That was a crap screen ten years ago. Go look at one in real life before considering buying. I find it amazing that people who wouldnt consider buying a smartphone with such a crap screen will buy a laptop with one.

hopgirl · 22-11-2018 11:11am

Doge wrote: »

That processor is very poor for the price.
And do you need a 2 in 1 laptop?
It basically means it has a touch screen so you can use it like a tablet also.
The 2 laptops bonsai posted are much better value, the Dell being the best in value from what I can see.
I'm not a fan of Currys after sales service though. Not sure if they improved over the years.

The reason I was thinking about getting it was because of its size as I be carrying it with me to college. That it be light as well. I check out the dell laptop.

beauf · 22-11-2018 11:20am

Touch screens add a lot of weight and are much harder on the battery. If you want light and a long battery avoid a touch screen.

I have a 11" atom based laptop/netbook. While it has a decent keyboard and I could type for hours on it. I find the screen small. It also has a poor quality screen.
If I was buying another I'd get something with a 14" and a atom/celeron processor, but to get one with a decent screen.

With laptops I would always check them out in a shop, keyboard screen, and weight.

beauf · 22-11-2018 11:21am

autumnalcore wrote: »

Whatever about the CPU, Graphics and memory Inspiron 5000 series have crappy TN panels with woeful viewing angles and gamut. That was a crap screen ten years ago. Go look at one in real life before considering buying. I find it amazing that people who wouldnt consider buying a smartphone with such a crap screen will buy a laptop with one.

Very true. The main difference between a high end laptop and a lesser on is often the screen. They've been putting some terrible screens on low and mid priced laptops for a while.

JustMe,K · 22-11-2018 11:28am

I'm trying to get a laptop thats Sims 4 compatible for a reasonable price. My head is fried. Really struggling with spending €400+ for something that probably wont get much use!

Ryath · 22-11-2018 11:32am

This Lenovo 520S seems pretty decent for ~€556 the 720 direct from Lenovo is probably worth the extra €50 though?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-IdeaPad-520S-14IKBR-Notebook-81BL008KUK/dp/B0792HGRN3?ref_=Oct_DLandingS_PC_a5356ff2_NA&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Stallingrad · 22-11-2018 11:36am

beauf wrote: »

Very true. The main difference between a high end laptop and a lesser on is often the screen. They've been putting some terrible screens on low and mid priced laptops for a while.

Is the Argos one a TN screen?

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/8666635/Trail/searchtext%3ELENOVO+330S.htm?_$ja=tsid%3A30390%7Cprd%3A7337207&cjevent=400459c8ee4211e882e102260a180511

Looked at it in Currys and also the HP and to be honest could not tell any difference between their screens.

DARK-KNIGHT · 22-11-2018 11:59am

Anyone see any gaming laptops on special that would be good value

bonsai_73 · 22-11-2018 12:50pm

Doge wrote: »

You sure about that?
Single thread performance and overall performance have scored higher for the Intel i5 on cpubenchmark.net:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2500U-vs-Intel-i5-8250U/3123vs3042

You can't go solely based on clock speed and cache size anymore as the architectures of CPUs have got more complicated over the years.

Looks like the Dell is a winner at €40 less.

As for the OP that asked originally, Ryzen processors are great too and are usually better value but not in this case for some reason, I use a Ryzen 5 1600 in my Gaming Rig and it was unbeatable value at the time.

autumnalcore wrote: »

Whatever about the CPU, Graphics and memory Inspiron 5000 series have crappy TN panels with woeful viewing angles and gamut. That was a crap screen ten years ago. Go look at one in real life before considering buying. I find it amazing that people who wouldnt consider buying a smartphone with such a crap screen will buy a laptop with one.

Thanks everyone for weighing in. To be honest, I'm still none the wiser as to what to go for

The Dell I linked is actually a 3000 series, not 5000 - so is the screen going to be even worse again, or is it similar to the 5000 series? To be honest, I'm not even sure I'd notice any difference between screens!

As it stands, between the two I was looking at, and the one glasso linked on Lenovo's site, it's looking like this:

Dell 15 3000 (specifically 3576) - i5-8250u, 8gb ram, 256gb ssd, Intel 620 graphics, FHD but questionable screen. Will cost €486 (as PTSB are running 10% back on Curry's purchases)

Lenovo Ideapad 330s - Ryzen 5 2500u, 8gb ram, 256gb ssd, Vega 8 (?) graphics, IPS screen. Will cost €522

Lenovo Thinkpad 720 - 15-7200u, 8gb ram, 256gb ssd, RX 560 graphics, IPS screen. Cost €609.

For what it's worth, I won't be gaming on it. It'll mostly be just regular internet, Office, Youtube and watching movies, and will sometime use Lightroom and Photoshop on it. Budget-wise, I could stretch to the €609 one, but unless it would be significantly better than the other two, I'd rather save the €100.

geezerbutler · 22-11-2018 2:05pm

glasso wrote: »

send a link to it. what is your intended use?
standard stuff like browsing and media consumption or planning on gaming (which would require a graphics card not just a powerful cpu)

Thanks for your feedback Glasso and lolliedog in relation to pavilion ab404na. Unfortunately I am not allowed send link as new user - but if you search amazon uk you should find it easy enough. It costs 850 sterling is 17 8750H (6 cores) 17.3 inch screen 1080 display with NVIDA GFForce GTX 1050 Ti (8GB ram). also 128gb SSD 1TB HDD

I dont plan to do gaming - but just completed a course on data analytics and some of the analytics/processing tasks require heavy duty processing power. I am also looking at the ASUS that lolliedog suggested in an earlier post

hopgirl · 22-11-2018 3:02pm

Thank you for the feedback just back from Curry's. Took it into consideration what people were saying about the 14 inch screen. Seen these two but I don't what the difference really about the two.
https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-yoga-530-14arr-14-amd-ryzen-5-2-in-1-256-gb-ssd-black-10180852-pdt.html
Or this one both are the same make.
https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-yoga-530-14arr-14-amd-ryzen-3-2-in-1-128-gb-ssd-10180747-pdt.html

CianFarrell · 22-11-2018 3:02pm

Dell G3 15 with the below spec can be gotten for €729 with the black friday discount - best price ive seen for the spec.

8th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-8300H Processor (Quad-Core, 8MB Cache, up to 4.0GHz w/ Turbo Boost)
Windows 10 Home 64bit, English, Dutch, French, German, Italian
8GB, 1x8GB, DDR4, 2666MHz
128GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive + 1TB 5400RPM 2.5 SATA Hard Drive
15.6-inch FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS Anti-Glare LED-Backlit Display
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 with 4GB GDDR5 graphics memory

Somedaythefire · 22-11-2018 3:05pm

any decent surface go deals?

fixXxer · 22-11-2018 3:07pm

Probably a silly request but has anyone seen any deals on laptops that would be used exclusively for editing photographs?

chonix · 22-11-2018 3:16pm

fixxxer wrote: »

Probably a silly request but has anyone seen any deals on laptops that would be used exclusively for editing photographs?

Not a silly request, but if you can list a few requirements, we might be able to help you.

gomamochi1 · 22-11-2018 3:22pm

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Chromebook-14-CB3-431-Celeron/dp/B01M8KBN0U/ref=sr_1_2?s=black-friday&psr=EY17&ie=UTF8&qid=1542895492&sr=1-2&keywords=chromebook&th=1
what about chrome books for intended use of streaming online lectures and doing course work. will be connected to internet most of the time and can work offline mode otherwise. I was advised that the chromebooks are more secure than windows/ apple and many edu establishments are going that way? Thanks

DeanoG14 · 22-11-2018 3:25pm

Just came across this one with Curry's

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/asus-vivobook-f407ma-14-intel-pentium-laptop-256-gb-ssd-grey-10181701-pdt.html?istCompanyId=fbc6ef6d-ab18-45e3-927a-0cb677794424&istItemId=-xxrmrlappw&istBid=t&gclid=Cj0KCQiAxNnfBRDwARIsAJlH29B1Zv0z_MOzU5_m1LhiCKIgANCh7qJgRJKmpUQwv4VQ2VJQBmxodbwaAmsvEALw_wcB

Looks like a good bet at €359. My knowledge is limited, anybody here give a second opinion?

fixXxer · 22-11-2018 3:31pm

chonix wrote: »

Not a silly request, but if you can list a few requirements, we might be able to help you.

Cheap as possible. Good colour reproduction in the screen. SSD isn't necessary, but the more ram the better. Graphics card can be integrated, a powerful one isn't needed.

Zardoz · 22-11-2018 3:43pm

beauf wrote: »

Very true. The main difference between a high end laptop and a lesser on is often the screen. They've been putting some terrible screens on low and mid priced laptops for a while.

Very true .
IPS is a minimum requirement these days for me.

Doge · 22-11-2018 4:50pm

CianFarrell wrote: »

Dell G3 15 with the below spec can be gotten for €729 with the black friday discount - best price ive seen for the spec.

8th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-8300H Processor (Quad-Core, 8MB Cache, up to 4.0GHz w/ Turbo Boost)
Windows 10 Home 64bit, English, Dutch, French, German, Italian
8GB, 1x8GB, DDR4, 2666MHz
128GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive + 1TB 5400RPM 2.5 SATA Hard Drive
15.6-inch FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS Anti-Glare LED-Backlit Display
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 with 4GB GDDR5 graphics memory

Can be gotten where?

chonix · 22-11-2018 4:59pm

Doge wrote: »

Can be gotten where?

I suppose it's from the Dell Outlet. But just had a chat and have been told all G models are sold out (I don't believe em) - Check here: https://www.dell.com/en-ie/outlet

Doge · 22-11-2018 5:03pm

hopgirl wrote: »

Thank you for the feedback just back from Curry's. Took it into consideration what people were saying about the 14 inch screen. Seen these two but I don't what the difference really about the two.
https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-yoga-530-14arr-14-amd-ryzen-5-2-in-1-256-gb-ssd-black-10180852-pdt.html
Or this one both are the same make.
https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-yoga-530-14arr-14-amd-ryzen-3-2-in-1-128-gb-ssd-10180747-pdt.html

The more expensive one has double the RAM, double the storage space and a faster processor so would be better value.

Still a lot to pay for a small tablet though, you're paying for the Touchscreen and as people said they're heavier.
They have a nice IPS display though on the other hand.

marcbrophy · 22-11-2018 5:08pm

chonix wrote: »

I suppose it's from the Dell Outlet. But just had a chat and have been told all G models are sold out (I don't believe em) - Check here: https://www.dell.com/en-ie/outlet

I'd believe them.
I think the G series are only a week or 2 on the market, so they probably have very few refurbs to offer right now

fixXxer · 22-11-2018 5:16pm

Is there a recommended place to get refurbished laptops? looking at www.laptopsdirect.ie right now

CianFarrell · 22-11-2018 5:19pm

Doge wrote: »

Can be gotten where?

Just the normal dell site - Go to g series laptops, the laptop spec I posted thats priced at 829 comes down to 729 with the lucky12 code applied at checkout.

hopgirl · 22-11-2018 5:42pm

Doge wrote: »

The more expensive one has double the RAM, double the storage space and a faster processor so would be better value.

Still a lot to pay for a small tablet though, you're paying for the Touchscreen and as people said they're heavier.
They have a nice IPS display though on the other hand.

There's an i5 but at a higher price at €899.99. I know I would never pay that much for a laptop my last one was roughly €250 7 years ago. It is still going but painfully slow to load pages and excel or word whatever I am working on can crash.
I suppose I am thinking more after I finish next year that I still use it rather than a non touch one. Thank you again my head is fried looking at laptops.

metaxaaa · 22-11-2018 7:26pm

My budget is around € 400 and laptop I will use for College and watching movies, but I prefer 2 in 1 touchscreen. I plan to get the laptop from the link below, can you please advise me is it a good choice for light usage?

https://www.lenovo.com/ie/en/laptops/yoga/500-series/Lenovo-YOGA-510-14AST/p/88YG5000684

lolliedog · 22-11-2018 8:46pm

geezerbutler wrote: »

Thanks for your feedback Glasso and lolliedog in relation to pavilion ab404na. Unfortunately I am not allowed send link as new user - but if you search amazon uk you should find it easy enough. It costs 850 sterling is 17 8750H (6 cores) 17.3 inch screen 1080 display with NVIDA GFForce GTX 1050 Ti (8GB ram). also 128gb SSD 1TB HDD

I dont plan to do gaming - but just completed a course on data analytics and some of the analytics/processing tasks require heavy duty processing power. I am also looking at the ASUS that lolliedog suggested in an earlier post

The screen is bigger on your one, but the one I linked has 256gb ssd, 16gb of ram and a better gpu gtx 1060 for £150 more.

LasersGoPewPew · 22-11-2018 9:32pm

The Huawei matebook d 14" can be imported from Amazon US for 620 euro( using revolut) including import taxes and priority shipping.
AMD Ryzen 5 2500u 4core 8threads 2.0Ghz base clock boosting to 3.6Ghz, vega 8 integrated graphics, 1080p panel, 256gb SSD(upgradeable) ,8gb ram(non upgradeable) , glossy touch screen,backlit keyboard, 7-8hr battery life, 1.57kg.
Seems like cracking value to me for those specs.
However, if anything goes wrong Im unsure of the costs to ship it back to get fixed.

Huawei Kepler MateBook D 14" - AMD R5 - 8GB+256GB, Mystic Silver https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G7GSM29/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_MbX9Bb2F7VRJ2

duffer247 · 22-11-2018 10:01pm

Hi all
I'm looking for an entry level laptop for 11yr old, mainly to get her accustomed to working on laptop, bit of project stuff she does in 6th class. I thought this would be fine and still a bit fun being a touchscreen https://powercity.ie/product/81191
Not sure how it's SSD and EMMC?
Thanks

LasersGoPewPew · 22-11-2018 10:12pm

metaxaaa wrote: »

My budget is around € 400 and laptop I will use for College and watching movies, but I prefer 2 in 1 touchscreen. I plan to get the laptop from the link below, can you please advise me is it a good choice for light usage?

https://www.lenovo.com/ie/en/laptops/yoga/500-series/Lenovo-YOGA-510-14AST/p/88YG5000684

Do yourself a favour and go the extra €110 and get the yoga 530 Intel 2in1. It has a pcie SSD, so there will be a night and day difference vs the 510 in terms of general productivity speed.
The 510 will get slow quickly, you'll be frustrated loading stuff or waiting for Windows to boot in comparison to the 530

Doge · 22-11-2018 10:18pm

duffer247 wrote: »

Hi all
I'm looking for an entry level laptop for 11yr old, mainly to get her accustomed to working on laptop, bit of project stuff she does in 6th class. I thought this would be fine and still a bit fun being a touchscreen https://powercity.ie/product/81191
Not sure how it's SSD and EMMC?
Thanks

The word SSD is a mistake in that listing.
EMMC is slower than SSD and always as a tiny amount of storage.

laserlad2010 · 22-11-2018 11:24pm

I picked up the new XPS 13 2in1 i7 processor with code LUCKY15 off the Dell UK site for just over £1050. Delivered via AddressPal hopefully. It might get rejected due to Lithium Ion battery but here's hoping! 8gb RAM 256gb SSD

https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/2-in-1-laptops/xps-13-9365/spd/xps-13-9365-2-in-1-laptop/cnx36516

Firblog · 22-11-2018 11:30pm

duffer247 wrote: »

Hi all
I'm looking for an entry level laptop for 11yr old, mainly to get her accustomed to working on laptop, bit of project stuff she does in 6th class. I thought this would be fine and still a bit fun being a touchscreen https://powercity.ie/product/81191
Not sure how it's SSD and EMMC?
Thanks

Would steer clear of anything with either only 2GB RAM or only 32GB Storage.

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