Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

Locke_Lamora · 28-11-2019 5:08pm

bilston wrote: »

Stronger than I expected. Should be good enough for the win.

I guess the view is get the points on the board early this season so we aren't scrambling come April/May and can therefore rotate a bit more for what we hope will be some knockout rugby.

Especially with the cheetahs looking dangerous this year.

Hands Like Flippers · 28-11-2019 7:23pm

Sexton and Hughes havent made sevens panel unfortunately.

Lucas44 · 29-11-2019 2:07am

Hands Like Flippers wrote: »

Sexton and Hughes havent made sevens panel unfortunately.

Graham Curtis another one who doesn’t make it

Dubinusa · 29-11-2019 5:30am

Was not expecting such a strong side. McCloskey will be flogged soon. Great to see Gilroy in the side.David O Connor on the bench! I was hoping to see Regan or Dalton!

29-11-2019 9:26am

Very strong team but unsurprising imo. Ulster have momentum at the moment and Scarlets are a top team. Should be a good game, will be double screening this and Munster.

RobbieRuns · 29-11-2019 10:31am

Big Chance for Bill Johnson to step up

bilston · 29-11-2019 11:56am

RobbieRuns wrote: »

Big Chance for Bill Johnson to step up

Yeah, he is the person I'm looking forward to seeing tonight. It's also important that he gets to play with Cooney.

I'm also hoping a couple of weeks break will have done Faddes some good.

Fingers crossed Coetzee gets through the game.

Shefwedfan · 29-11-2019 11:57am

Hope Johnson goes well, he deserves a chance to get a run in Pro14

Sinbad_NI · 29-11-2019 8:50pm

One way traffic atm

Shefwedfan · 29-11-2019 9:08pm

This on TV? which channel?

Locke_Lamora · 29-11-2019 9:08pm

Baloucoune has been down and holding his knee a few times. Him, Treadwell and Coetzee all going well right now.

Paul Smeenus · 29-11-2019 9:13pm

TBP get them all off

Sinbad_NI · 29-11-2019 9:23pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

This on TV? which channel?

I'm watching on premier sports 1

Locke_Lamora · 29-11-2019 9:33pm

It's been a great half, but it's basically a 3rd string Scarlets. Starting to look really disjointed at times, so I'd like us to shore that up without taking the foot off the gas.

kingofthekong · 29-11-2019 9:54pm

Bill Johnston's Passing is so crisp and well timed, always hits the right man

29-11-2019 10:14pm

Shouldn't that be a penalty against the Scarlet player?

Locke_Lamora · 29-11-2019 10:35pm

Baloucoune with MOTM. There's a mischievous god somewhere conspiring to never let him and Lyttle be fit at the same time.

On a more serious note, that was a poor second half collectively. Thought we played some nice rugby, but we've got to be more clinical.

Paul Smeenus · 29-11-2019 10:36pm

5 points, no injuries - I'll take it.

jacothelad · 29-11-2019 10:41pm

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

5 points, no injuries - I'll take it.

Ludik went off injured.

Paul Smeenus · 29-11-2019 10:45pm

jacothelad wrote: »

Ludik went off injured.

FFS!! Was following it online.

So we're down to Faddes, Gilroy or Stockdale.

jacothelad · 29-11-2019 10:48pm

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

FFS!! Was following it online.

So we're down to Faddes, Gilroy or Stockdale.

I don't know how serious it was. he looked uncomfortable.

Sinbad_NI · 29-11-2019 10:54pm

jacothelad wrote: »

I don't know how serious it was. he looked uncomfortable.

Looked more like a precautionary thing to me, but yes he had a slight hobble going off.
Fingers crossed he's ok, has been in terrific form last match and this one too be fair.

bilston · 29-11-2019 11:01pm

jacothelad wrote: »

Ludik went off injured.

Moore may have gone off injured. Although he looked ok when he went off, but had been receiving treatment.

The second half was absolute dirt. The first half was just very clinical. But we should have won that game by 50 points.

Still 5 points in the main thing.

Balacoune was excellent. He is just a very good rugby player. We are spoilt with our four frontline wingers. Johnston is a nice passer, although I wonder if we overdid the miss pass tonight.

Treadwell was also very good.

mogwai81 · 29-11-2019 11:05pm

A back three next week of 15 Gilroy, 14 Balacoune, 11 Stockdale or maybe Faddes will play fullback.

Locke_Lamora · 30-11-2019 12:11am

mogwai81 wrote: »

A back three next week of 15 Gilroy, 14 Balacoune, 11 Stockdale or maybe Faddes will play fullback.

I wouldn't be over keen on Gilroy at fullback. If Ludik is fit, he probably starts somewhere - he's been excellent under the high ball for a few weeks now.

awec · 30-11-2019 12:46am

Balacoune was class.

Faddes got 2 tries but I am still unconvinced by him.

Johnson did well, but he needs to go to the line more. Too many passes way behind the gain line which doesn't threaten anything.

The pack ate them up in the first half though.

Hands Like Flippers · 30-11-2019 2:28am

Locke_Lamora wrote: »

I wouldn't be over keen on Gilroy at fullback. If Ludik is fit, he probably starts somewhere - he's been excellent under the high ball for a few weeks now.

Ludik was my MOTM.

mogwai81 · 30-11-2019 9:28am

Locke_Lamora wrote: »

I wouldn't be over keen on Gilroy at fullback. If Ludik is fit, he probably starts somewhere - he's been excellent under the high ball for a few weeks now.

Me too. I got it into my head Ludik was injured for some reason.

mogwai81 · 30-11-2019 9:41am

Dubinusa wrote: »

Was not expecting such a strong side. McCloskey will be flogged soon. Great to see Gilroy in the side.David O Connor on the bench! I was hoping to see Regan or Dalton!

Fair point regarding McCloskey. If he plays both games against Harlequins, he'll have played six games in a row. Tough going for someone who carries some much ball for Ulster.
I would love to see him involved with Ireland but it's of real benefit to Ulster that he isn't. Probably wouldn't be allowed to play so many games continuously if he was playing for Ireland.

bilston · 30-11-2019 2:30pm

awec wrote: »

Balacoune was class.

Faddes got 2 tries but I am still unconvinced by him.

Johnson did well, but he needs to go to the line more. Too many passes way behind the gain line which doesn't threaten anything.

The pack ate them up in the first half though.

Johnston is definitely an upgrade on McPhillips, who to be fair had his moments, particularly the tail end of the horrendous 2017/18 season. He is very vocal and not afraid to get stuck in either. Give it a couple of years and he could turn out to be our best signing this year.

What to make of Faddes? I suppose he didn't do anything wrong last night, which itself is an improvement, he seems.tonhave a nose for the line. He still has some way to go but last night was better from him.

Hands Like Flippers · 30-11-2019 6:02pm

bilston wrote: »

Johnston is definitely an upgrade on McPhillips, who to be fair had his moments, particularly the tail end of the horrendous 2017/18 season. He is very vocal and not afraid to get stuck in either. Give it a couple of years and he could turn out to be our best signing this year."

Not sure about that. BJ did well but Scarlets were pants. Leinster would have put 50 on them.

What to make of Faddes? I suppose he didn't do anything wrong last night, which itself is an improvement, he seems.tonhave a nose for the line. He still has some way to go but last night was better from him.

His best game so far but still not convinced he was worth bringing over from NZ.

Shefwedfan · 30-11-2019 6:26pm

Hands Like Flippers wrote: »

His best game so far but still not convinced he was worth bringing over from NZ.

How many games has he played?

damianmcr · 30-11-2019 11:35pm

7 appearances and 4 tries.

I think he needs to be given a chance to settle. How many of our other players have 4 tries.

kingofthekong · 01-12-2019 1:28am

Bill Johnston has some very good handling and passing, some lovely distribution and perfect timing on his pass - this makes attacking the line hundred times easier when the ball is infront of everyone running onto it

Hands Like Flippers · 02-12-2019 8:10pm

Just watched St Pats in the schools cup v Carrick. They had the Ulster u18 Clubs 10 and a bunch of boys keen to run. Tackled pretty well. Ran fast. Not interested in mauling lol. Super stuff.

The Lost Sheep · 02-12-2019 8:48pm

Hands Like Flippers wrote: »

Just watched St Pats in the schools cup v Carrick. They had the Ulster u18 Clubs 10 and a bunch of boys keen to run. Tackled pretty well. Ran fast. Not interested in mauling lol. Super stuff.

format change been good success then? Seen fair few games in all provinces bar Ulster so far. Having interpro player will hugely help them.
Hope schools thread can open and not be ruined this year.

thomond2006 · 02-12-2019 10:42pm

I hope Bill Johnston works out for Ulster. He showed talent in flashes at Munster and injuries slowed his development. Given Ben Healy's performance on Friday night it was a great move for Johnston.

Hands Like Flippers · 03-12-2019 1:54am

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

format change been good success then? Seen fair few games in all provinces bar Ulster so far. Having interpro player will hugely help them.
Hope schools thread can open and not be ruined this year.

Yip, definitely been a success. Weaker schools and even teir 2 teams loving it - getting a chance to play 3 competitive cup matches without being knocked out and then entering the appropriate stage of the cup competition. Every coach I have asked thinks its great.

Teir 1 teams don't join until February.

Surely the school thread could open and any plonker who posts silly stuff about his old school etc can be banned rather than the thread closed down for everyone else. It was just a few Leinster dads causing the problems last time out.

RBAI were well beaten by Kings 1xv at Shawsbridge this pm as well. Kings had a couple of cracking centres and ran the ball really well.

Hands Like Flippers · 04-12-2019 9:16pm

https://www.irishrugby.ie/2019/12/04/ireland-u18-squads-named-for-festive-season-training-camps/

Thought there would have been a few more Ulster players in the mix especially given how close they ran Leinster in the competition.

mogwai81 · 06-12-2019 1:51pm

15. Jacob Stockdale
14. Louis Ludik
13. Luke Marshall
12. Stuart McCloskey
11. Craig Gilroy
10. Billy Burns
9. John Cooney
1. Eric O’Sullivan
2. Rob Herring
3. Marty Moore
4. Alan O’Connor
5. Iain Henderson (captain)
6. Sean Reidy
7. Jordi Murphy
8. Marcell Coetzee
Replacements:
16. Adam McBurney
17. Andrew Warwick
18. Tom O’Toole
19. Kieran Treadwell
20. Matthew Rea
21. David Shanahan
22. Bill Johnston
23. Matt Faddes

mogwai81 · 06-12-2019 1:52pm

Baloucoune unlucky to miss out entirely after last weeks performance.

mogwai81 · 06-12-2019 1:53pm

Harlequins:
15. Ross Chisholm
14. Travis Ismaiel
13. Michele Campagnaro
12. James Lang
11. Gabriel Ibitoye
10. Marcus Smith
9. Danny Care
1. Joe Marler
2. Elia Elia
3. Kyle Sinckler
4. Stephan Lewies
5. Tevita Cavubati
6. Semi Kunatani
7. Chris Robshaw (captain)
8. Alex Dombrandt
Replacements:
16. Jack Musk
17. Nick Auterac
18. Simon Kerrod
19. Dino Lamb
20. Tom Lawday
21. Martin Landajo
22. Francis Saili
23. Vereniki Goneva

arsebiscuits1 · 06-12-2019 3:40pm

Timoney injured or not picked? I love watching him play I think he's super

Dubinusa · 06-12-2019 4:17pm

Any type of win would be great. Next weekend will be tough. Win this week and Ulster are in the driving seat.

Locke_Lamora · 06-12-2019 4:44pm

I'm most worried about the scrum. Sinckler will be looking forward to having a go at O'Sullivan I reckon, even if he has improved this year. Apart from that they aren't a side to be scared of but Smith, Ibitoye and Dombrandt can all cause a lot of bother if our defence isn't switched on.

Paul Smeenus · 06-12-2019 8:02pm

Think Baloucoune would be a starter for me. Like Timoney, but not disappointed a local lad has leapfrogged him, and do think that Rea has earned the bench spot. Faddes is there for versatility, I presume, covering 13, wings and FB

06-12-2019 9:13pm

Bath Clermont double header looks like it's going to be a home win a piece.

bilston · 06-12-2019 9:24pm

Disappointed Balacoune doesn't get a look in, but he doesn't have a lot of rugby behind him this season.

Timoney, Rea, Reidy is horses for courses so no complaints there.

O'Connor over Treadwell is interesting, but I'm a big fan of both so don't mind.

A bit early to be calling this game in favour of Bath Venjur. Don't know why they didn't take an easy 3 points there!

Paul Smeenus · 07-12-2019 1:09pm

There's been some cracker interviews with Rory Gallagher n the last week or so.

jacothelad · 07-12-2019 1:37pm

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

There's been some cracker interviews with Rory Gallagher n the last week or so.

By Seance?:D

Ulster Team Talk Thread IV... Go On My Henderson...

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