Fundraiser for student nurses

20-01-2021 1:39pm #1

I read a headline in today's Independent where a student nurse had to decide between topping up her Leapcard or eating. They are working for €100 a week.

If there were to be an ongoing fundraiser to supplement student nurses income, what would be a good way to do it? At least until such a time that we are through the pandemic.

Considering that they are working at the frontline of the biggest pandemic we have ever seen, in a very dangerous environment every day, surely there must be a way where the country could do a whip-around. If half a million people contributed €5, the price of a pint, that is €2.5 million. Considering that there is approx 2,000 student nurses (correct me if Im wrong), that would work out at €1,250 per nurse. Even if 500,000 people donated €5 every two weeks, that would give the student nurses €600 each a week on top of their €100. I wouldn't miss €2.50 per week.

I think we owe it to them, it would be good a way to show gratitude for their efforts.

Mad_maxx · 20-01-2021 1:54pm

you go first

20-01-2021 1:59pm

Excellent idea, OP.

They should be paid a full wage when on work experience at the best of times, but not being paid a full wage during a pandemic...a scandal. Absolutely shameful.

Amirani · 20-01-2021 2:01pm

Their training placements in hospitals have been stopped, so they're not currently working.

4th year nurses are still doing their intern work and are getting paid more than €100 per week.

20-01-2021 2:03pm

Amirani wrote: »

They are no longer doing their training placements in hospitals, so they're not currently working.

We'll consider it a reimbursement so.

YellowLead · 20-01-2021 2:15pm

OP I think it’s a very noble idea and I commend you.

Would it be worth reaching out to any group or body/club for student nurses to see what they think and how they could assist?
I think there would be a lot of questions about how best to distribute the funds if x was raised. I know it wouldn’t be assessed based on need the assumption is they are all deserving - but if only a small amount is raised do they all get 5 euro? That could be a lot of work for very little return on an individual basis. Just playing devils advocate - fair dues for the idea.

Montage of Feck · 20-01-2021 2:34pm

How about paying the teachers the pup rates like everyone else and give the savings to the nurses.

KaneToad · 20-01-2021 2:36pm

How would this student afford to eat & get to college if she weren't on a training placement?

505_ · 20-01-2021 2:38pm

It is crazy that this issue has gone on for pretty much the duration of the pandemic. They are doing an incredibly difficult job and a lot of these students you’d imagine are living at home. Literally putting themselves and their families at risk. The government has failed them. Anyone arguing it’s a work placement doesn’t change the fact they’re working a job a lot of us, myself included wouldn’t be able for.

Wanderer78 · 20-01-2021 2:38pm

not surprised, wont change either, no wonder the special needs situation is worsening

Your Face · 20-01-2021 2:44pm

I'd need a more detailed break-down of their pay and hours before Id contribute to a fundraiser.

silver2020 · 20-01-2021 2:44pm

Remember these students get near free excellent training through college.

They also get allowances - both travel & accommadation

They also get their grants (like most students)

Final year nursing students who do some clinical work get about 20k a year.

Those not in final year do very basic "minding" work when on placements.

Next student gardai will want payment (that is as sure as night following day), student teachers (100% certain too).

Sure feck it, lets pay all students massive salaries whilst in college + grants + allowances + free education. - Who's volunteering a 5% increase in PAYE and the dropping of tax allowances of about 20% to pay for this?

The nursing union have some very good mouthpieces and far topo many people believe every word out of the union's mouth with questioning it. they play the sympathy card as well as those sh1te ads on tv for concern, trocaire and dogs trust.

.anon. · 20-01-2021 3:04pm

Montage of Feck wrote: »

How about paying the teachers the pup rates like everyone else and give the savings to the nurses.

How about not setting workers against each other.

Lux23 · 20-01-2021 3:04pm

Montage of Feck wrote: »

How about paying the teachers the pup rates like everyone else and give the savings to the nurses.

But they aren't entitled to PUP if they are not unemployed?

KungPao · 20-01-2021 3:08pm

Some of those student nurses I see around my local hospital are well worth “a donation”.

Amirani · 20-01-2021 3:12pm

505_ wrote: »

It is crazy that this issue has gone on for pretty much the duration of the pandemic. They are doing an incredibly difficult job and a lot of these students you’d imagine are living at home. Literally putting themselves and their families at risk. The government has failed them. Anyone arguing it’s a work placement doesn’t change the fact they’re working a job a lot of us, myself included wouldn’t be able for.

Should student doctors or student physios be paid too? They're also going to hospitals and putting themselves and their families at risk.

biko · 20-01-2021 3:25pm

Reduce the government's pensions and pay the nurses from that fund.

Hoboo · 20-01-2021 3:26pm

Montage of Feck wrote: »

How about paying the teachers the pup rates like everyone else and give the savings to the nurses.

Teachers are still teaching, are they not?

Mad_maxx · 20-01-2021 4:43pm

Amirani wrote: »

Should student doctors or student physios be paid too? They're also going to hospitals and putting themselves and their families at risk.

they arent special like nurses

Wanderer78 · 20-01-2021 8:07pm

biko wrote: »

Reduce the government's pensions and pay the nurses from that fund.

just borrow the fcuking money, deficits arent the work of the devil, and by not investing in our youth now, is far more dangerous than having a deficit

Purple Mountain · 20-01-2021 8:09pm

Montage of Feck wrote: »

How about paying the teachers the pup rates like everyone else and give the savings to the nurses.

Becaus4 PUP rates are only paid to people who are currently unemployed.

ohnonotgmail · 21-01-2021 11:02am

silver2020 wrote: »

Remember these students get near free excellent training through college.

They also get allowances - both travel & accommadation

They also get their grants (like most students)

Final year nursing students who do some clinical work get about 20k a year.

Those not in final year do very basic "minding" work when on placements.

Next student gardai will want payment (that is as sure as night following day), student teachers (100% certain too).

Sure feck it, lets pay all students massive salaries whilst in college + grants + allowances + free education. - Who's volunteering a 5% increase in PAYE and the dropping of tax allowances of about 20% to pay for this?

The nursing union have some very good mouthpieces and far topo many people believe every word out of the union's mouth with questioning it. they play the sympathy card as well as those sh1te ads on tv for concern, trocaire and dogs trust.

Student garda get €184 a week plus free food and accommodation.

weisses · 21-01-2021 11:07am

silver2020 wrote: »

Remember these students get near free excellent training through college.

They also get allowances - both travel & accommadation

They also get their grants (like most students)

Final year nursing students who do some clinical work get about 20k a year.

Those not in final year do very basic "minding" work when on placements.

Next student gardai will want payment (that is as sure as night following day), student teachers (100% certain too).

Sure feck it, lets pay all students massive salaries whilst in college + grants + allowances + free education. - Who's volunteering a 5% increase in PAYE and the dropping of tax allowances of about 20% to pay for this?

The nursing union have some very good mouthpieces and far topo many people believe every word out of the union's mouth with questioning it. they play the sympathy card as well as those sh1te ads on tv for concern, trocaire and dogs trust.

What a load of waffle

the beer revolu · 21-01-2021 11:27am

weisses wrote: »

What a load of waffle

Your counter argument is spectacular.

noodler · 21-01-2021 11:29am

silver2020 wrote: »

Remember these students get near free excellent training through college.

They also get allowances - both travel & accommadation

They also get their grants (like most students)

Final year nursing students who do some clinical work get about 20k a year.

Those not in final year do very basic "minding" work when on placements.

Next student gardai will want payment (that is as sure as night following day), student teachers (100% certain too).

Sure feck it, lets pay all students massive salaries whilst in college + grants + allowances + free education. - Who's volunteering a 5% increase in PAYE and the dropping of tax allowances of about 20% to pay for this?

The nursing union have some very good mouthpieces and far topo many people believe every word out of the union's mouth with questioning it. they play the sympathy card as well as those sh1te ads on tv for concern, trocaire and dogs trust.

Thank God.

It's not popular to say but good post.

weisses · 21-01-2021 11:35am

the beer revolu wrote: »

Your counter argument is spectacular.

Its up to the poster to put out the correct information. Not really interested in spoon-feeding

the beer revolu · 21-01-2021 11:37am

weisses wrote: »

Its up to the poster to put out the correct information. Not really interested in spoon-feeding

No, really.
The way you countered everything they said, point by point. It was brilliant.

Are you a barrister, per chance?

weisses · 21-01-2021 11:55am

the beer revolu wrote: »

No, really.
The way you countered everything they said, point by point. It was brilliant.

Are you a barrister, per chance?

Nope ....Student nurse.

givyjoe · 21-01-2021 11:59am

weisses wrote: »

What a load of waffle

Are any of the bullet points they posted incorrect? If they are, would you like to post the correct info? Seems like the opposite of waffle to me.

AMKC · 21-01-2021 12:05pm

Even if 500,000 people donated €5 every two weeks, that would give the student nurses €600 each a week on top of their €100. I wouldn't miss €2.50 per week.

Surely an extra 600 a month would do them. They would not know what to do with on extra 600 a week. That's like 2400 extra a month on top of the 400 they get. 600 a month and the 400 they get is a grand. You do not want to be earning too much to soon and then end up going on a lower pay at some stage later on. Better for it to be the other way. A grand a month would be plenty for them.

21-01-2021 12:07pm

weisses wrote: »

Nope ....Student nurse.

Not buying it.

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