Kerry Airport - News & Updates

adam88 · 03-07-2019 7:42am

Tuesday fortnight tgere was two private jets in before the Dublin flight. Crew got picked up in a minibus, very smart looking red uniform by the cabin crew member. One can only dream to have that sort of money

marno21 · 04-07-2019 10:58am

Busy morning again N111CQ & N7325 both in this morning, fine looking livery on N7325.

marno21 · 25-07-2019 8:34am

Seems to be a Dornier 328 in almost daily now.. D-BJET

embraer170 · 26-07-2019 3:45pm

2 Gulfstreams, the Dornier 328 jet (D-BJET), and a Loganair Embraer on the ground this afternoon.

D-BJET seems be doing returns from Munich.

Teebor15 · 27-07-2019 1:04pm

D-BJET finished now.

embraer170 · 27-07-2019 8:44pm

Any idea what it was doing? There was some kind of temporary Audi sponsored event tent in the short term car park so I am wondering if there is a link.

Nicetrustedcup · 28-07-2019 7:08am

The better 1/2 is after booking the kerry to dublin flight as she got it cheaper then the train up.

How early does she need to be in kerry airport for? A hour or so?.

SeaFields · 28-07-2019 11:42am

Nicetrustedcup wrote: »

The better 1/2 is after booking the kerry to dublin flight as she got it cheaper then the train up.

How early does she need to be in kerry airport for? A hour or so?.

I get that regularly enough for work. I'm normally there at 6.45. Security opens about then. So an hour for your girlfriend would be fine ( provided she's not checking a bag).

Nicetrustedcup · 28-07-2019 11:51am

SeaFields wrote: »

I get that regularly enough for work. I'm normally there at 6.45. Security opens about then. So an hour for your girlfriend would be fine ( provided she's not checking a bag).

Thanks for that.

She fells very posh getting a plane from kerry to dublin like her own jet

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Casati · 29-07-2019 8:36am

embraer170 wrote: »

Any idea what it was doing? There was some kind of temporary Audi sponsored event tent in the short term car park so I am wondering if there is a link.

Audi had a press launch for a new model Q7 and some other engine options launching in the A6, where the journalists from around the world were driving them around Kerry. I understand they were flying them in and out via Germany on one of their jets

ongarboy · 29-07-2019 9:31am

SeaFields wrote: »

I get that regularly enough for work. I'm normally there at 6.45. Security opens about then. So an hour for your girlfriend would be fine ( provided she's not checking a bag).

In my 20 + years of going between Tralee and Dublin, I've never actually taken that flight. I always feel that by the time you allow 30 minutes to get to the airport, an hour or more to check in at DUB just to ensure you don't have massive security queues (or an hour at Kerry per advice above), 45 minutes flight and taxi-ing and then having to get someone to drive a distance to collect you in Farranfore almost negates the actual saved time. KIR-DUB might be quicker than DUB-KIR as you don't have security queues.

I can drive door to door in just under 3.5 hours outside of Naas Road and Adare rush hour which amounts to a journey time not much longer than end to end by air (longer of course during bad traffic or if I need to make a rest/refreshment stop). I should however try it once just to see....

Casati · 29-07-2019 10:39am

ongarboy wrote: »

In my 20 + years of going between Tralee and Dublin, I've never actually taken that flight. I always feel that by the time you allow 30 minutes to get to the airport, an hour or more to check in at DUB just to ensure you don't have massive security queues (or an hour at Kerry per advice above), 45 minutes flight and taxi-ing and then having to get someone to drive a distance to collect you in Farranfore almost negates the actual saved time. KIR-DUB might be quicker than DUB-KIR as you don't have security queues.

I can drive door to door in just under 3.5 hours outside of Naas Road and Adare rush hour which amounts to a journey time not much longer than end to end by air (longer of course during bad traffic or if I need to make a rest/refreshment stop). I should however try it once just to see....

Assuming you check in online then arriving to security in KIR with 35 mins before take off has been ample anytime I’ve used the flight but depending on how far you are from KIR (I’m 15 mins away) and your final destination in Dublin it might slower or quite a bit faster. I’ve used it quite a bit but almost always just to connect to another flight from Dublin

Dublin used to have Regional flight security queue (ie almost no queue) but I think this is gone so you’d certainly need at least an hour - I took it last Saturday and gave myself 1 hr 10mins and arrived to the gate as it was boarding.

L1011 · 29-07-2019 1:14pm

I have a vague memory that domestic passengers still get fast track included but its not shouted about because they'd prefer if you didn't use it. Introduced because airlines threatened to pull the services entirely due to check in times making them unviable against buses. This was when there were still flights to Sligo and Galway.

I wouldn't go relying on that because I can't find anything at all online to confirm it though.

adam88 · 29-07-2019 4:12pm

The flight up isn’t too bad considering you can get into Kerry last minute but dub to kir is pointless compared to the train if your in the city. Last time I flew that route we were taxing for well over the hour.

embraer170 · 29-07-2019 5:11pm

Total chaos in the Kerry departures lounge yesterday with two full Ryanair flights leaving at the same time. Absolutely nowhere to stand in any kind of comfort, with people going through security stuck and unable to move forward to the cafe/shop.

On the other hand, both security screening lanes were open so that part went rather quickly.

L1011 wrote: »

I have a vague memory that domestic passengers still get fast track included but its not shouted about because they'd prefer if you didn't use it. Introduced because airlines threatened to pull the services entirely due to check in times making them unviable against buses. This was when there were still flights to Sligo and Galway.

I wouldn't go relying on that because I can't find anything at all online to confirm it though.

I have not tried recently but the official answer is no.

Masala · 29-07-2019 5:29pm

L1011 wrote: »

I have a vague memory that domestic passengers still get fast track included but its not shouted about because they'd prefer if you didn't use it. Introduced because airlines threatened to pull the services entirely due to check in times making them unviable against buses. This was when there were still flights to Sligo and Galway.

I wouldn't go relying on that because I can't find anything at all online to confirm it though.

YES.... there is a still a Fast-Trak desk at Security at Dublin airport that is available on the Dublin-Kerry flight on showing your Boarding Card.

SeaFields · 29-07-2019 5:42pm

ongarboy wrote: »

In my 20 + years of going between Tralee and Dublin, I've never actually taken that flight. I always feel that by the time you allow 30 minutes to get to the airport, an hour or more to check in at DUB just to ensure you don't have massive security queues (or an hour at Kerry per advice above), 45 minutes flight and taxi-ing and then having to get someone to drive a distance to collect you in Farranfore almost negates the actual saved time. KIR-DUB might be quicker than DUB-KIR as you don't have security queues.

I can drive door to door in just under 3.5 hours outside of Naas Road and Adare rush hour which amounts to a journey time not much longer than end to end by air (longer of course during bad traffic or if I need to make a rest/refreshment stop). I should however try it once just to see....

I use the train as well but if I have meetings scheduled for that side of the city I arrange them for one of the airport hotels. Walk from T2 and back again. Have grub afterwards in departures and walk to the gate. The regional flights always go from the same place so get a coffee there and watch Netflix on the phone before boarding. I find it more relaxing than the train, especially on what would be busy train times - Fridays, etc.

embraer170 · 29-07-2019 9:54pm

Masala wrote: »

YES.... there is a still a Fast-Trak desk at Security at Dublin airport that is available on the Dublin-Kerry flight on showing your Boarding Card.

Someone should tell the Dublin airport social media team.

ongarboy · 02-08-2019 11:13pm

https://www.rte.ie/archives/2019/0710/1061247-fly-kerry-to-dublin/

Interesting little clip about the launch of KIR -DUB scheduled services 40 years ago.

embraer170 · 08-08-2019 6:29am

It will be interesting to see what happens to the Faro flight next summer with the planned closure of the Ryanair base there.

Sikpupi · 08-08-2019 9:23am

embraer170 wrote: »

It will be interesting to see what happens to the Faro flight next summer with the planned closure of the Ryanair base there.

Faro only operates for 4 months in the summer twice weekly. Always well supported with a lot of repeat business. Ryanair can see the demand and rather than lose the business - they might put on a Malaga or a Palma and the people will just switch over. Could be an ill wind for Kerry passengers.....

marno21 · 20-08-2019 6:22pm

Busy evening in Kerry. N800HH, D-CJMK, N445BJ and N488VC all in in the last half hour.

marno21 · 22-08-2019 8:26pm

https://www.radiokerry.ie/kerry-td-says-off-shore-drilling-oil-ceased-temporarily/

The oil exploration off the coast has been suspended. G-VINT and G-MCSA positioned back to Aberdeen last Friday.

marno21 · 23-08-2019 5:37pm

Kerry Airport are in negotiations with Loganair to start a route to Edinburgh next summer.

https://www.radiokerry.ie/hopes-flights-kerry-airport-edinburgh-will-operational-next-summer/

Also, they hope the oil and gas exploration will return in 2021.

embraer170 · 23-08-2019 9:52pm

marno21 wrote: »

Kerry Airport are in negotiations with Loganair to start a route to Edinburgh next summer.

https://www.radiokerry.ie/hopes-flights-kerry-airport-edinburgh-will-operational-next-summer/

Also, they hope the oil and gas exploration will return in 2021.

I wonder if Edinburgh has a greater chance of success than Liverpool and Manchester (tried twice).

189 seat Boeing 737s were probably too big for Liverpool, but the Manchester flights were only Aer Arann ATR42s I think.

Masala · 23-08-2019 11:24pm

embraer170 wrote: »

I wonder if Edinburgh has a greater chance of success than Liverpool and Manchester (tried twice).

189 seat Boeing 737s were probably too big for Liverpool, but the Manchester flights were only Aer Arann ATR42s I think.

Ya... but Aer Arann went bust (receivership) and so no fault on Kerry on flights been pulled.

Jack1985 · 24-08-2019 2:38pm

Masala wrote: »

Ya... but Aer Arann went bust (receivership) and so no fault on Kerry on flights been pulled.

Aer Arann never entered receivership nor went ''bust'' it entered examinership and successfully exited it, was subsequently renamed Stobart Air following a change in shareholdings.

Masala · 24-08-2019 3:22pm

Jack1985 wrote: »

Aer Arann never entered receivership nor went ''bust'' it entered examinership and successfully exited it, was subsequently renamed Stobart Air following a change in shareholdings.

Whatever it was called.... caused the end of the Manchester service to Kerry

Jack1985 · 24-08-2019 3:26pm

Masala wrote: »

Whatever it was called.... caused the end of the Manchester service to Kerry

Which was a marginal route of no significant importance to Aer Arann's route structure and as it was then loss making, it was cut.

Oscar Bravo · 24-08-2019 5:26pm

N673MM on the way in

ongarboy · 20-09-2019 2:37pm

Amused to hear the Healy Raes campaigning for a PSO to be introduced to enable a Kerry- Amsterdam route!! What next, a PSO to Lanzarote as a break from milking the cows is deemed a social necessity for their voters??

https://www.radiokerry.ie/minister-wont-extend-pso-create-kerry-amsterdam-route/

JCX BXC · 20-09-2019 2:47pm

ongarboy wrote: »

Amused to hear the Healy Raes campaigning for a PSO to be introduced to enable a Kerry- Amsterdam route!! What next, a PSO to Lanzarote as a break from milking the cows is deemed a social necessity for their voters??

https://www.radiokerry.ie/minister-wont-extend-pso-create-kerry-amsterdam-route/

The Pub Culture is weaning so maybe they're hoping to get a head start and introduce Kerry folk to the 'Coffee Shop' idea?

john boye · 20-09-2019 4:21pm

ongarboy wrote: »

Amused to hear the Healy Raes campaigning for a PSO to be introduced to enable a Kerry- Amsterdam route!! What next, a PSO to Lanzarote as a break from milking the cows is deemed a social necessity for their voters??

https://www.radiokerry.ie/minister-wont-extend-pso-create-kerry-amsterdam-route/

They probably think the pilot should be allowed to fly the plane with 5 pints on board too.

marno21 · 20-09-2019 6:01pm

It isn’t surprising they are looking for hub connectivity. Apart from FR, there is the Dublin flights with Aer Lingus that are poorly timed for connections and often are delays that result in missed connections (if a flight lands 2 hours late in the evening it departs 2 hours late in the morning).

Kerry is quite an isolated county and both road and rail access is poor. Dublin Airport is 4.5 hours at least away by rail and Cork Airport and Shannon Airport are at the very least 2 hours away.

There are many businesses in the Kerry area that are suffering as a result. Fexco and Dairymaster are 2 regularly quoted. Kerry Group moved most of their operations to Naas to be closer to Dublin Airport

For hub connectivity aside from Dublin which has limited long haul apart from North America and the ME3, either London, Paris or Amsterdam would be useful. Given the LHR slots issue, AMS makes sense given KLM’s fondness for sending small aircraft to small airports in the UK.

L1011 · 21-09-2019 9:31am

AMS is also problematic slots wise now.

CDG was what was attempted as a replacement for LHR at Shannon when that was briefly pulled - but people seem far more used to connecting at LHR/AMS. That said there's more use of Skyscanner and so on these days

tototoe · 21-09-2019 2:02pm

L1011 wrote: »

AMS is also problematic slots wise now.

CDG was what was attempted as a replacement for LHR at Shannon when that was briefly pulled - but people seem far more used to connecting at LHR/AMS. That said there's more use of Skyscanner and so on these days

The astronomical pricing was the reason snn CDG failed. It was 4-500 each way most flights on a small aircraft. Wasn't a runner for most.

embraer170 · 21-09-2019 8:38pm

They could start selling European connections through DUB (mandate it as part of the PSO if necessary) before dreaming of AMS, CDG, etc.

blackwhite · 23-09-2019 12:04pm

marno21 wrote: »

It isn’t surprising they are looking for hub connectivity. Apart from FR, there is the Dublin flights with Aer Lingus that are poorly timed for connections and often are delays that result in missed connections (if a flight lands 2 hours late in the evening it departs 2 hours late in the morning).

Kerry is quite an isolated county and both road and rail access is poor. Dublin Airport is 4.5 hours at least away by rail and Cork Airport and Shannon Airport are at the very least 2 hours away.

There are many businesses in the Kerry area that are suffering as a result. Fexco and Dairymaster are 2 regularly quoted. Kerry Group moved most of their operations to Naas to be closer to Dublin Airport

For hub connectivity aside from Dublin which has limited long haul apart from North America and the ME3, either London, Paris or Amsterdam would be useful. Given the LHR slots issue, AMS makes sense given KLM’s fondness for sending small aircraft to small airports in the UK.

Kerry Group retained all of their head office functions in Tralee.

The centre in Naas has 2 primary functions - a shared services centre for certain accounting/finance functions that pulling in operations from their plants around EMEA, and a R&D facility to support innovation in the ingredients business. Neither function involved relocating jobs from Kerry to Naas. Some management team changed roles and relocated to head up departments in the new facility, but no roles or functions were moved from Tralee to Naas.

Oasis1974 · 23-09-2019 12:11pm

tototoe wrote: »

L1011 wrote: »

AMS is also problematic slots wise now.

CDG was what was attempted as a replacement for LHR at Shannon when that was briefly pulled - but people seem far more used to connecting at LHR/AMS. That said there's more use of Skyscanner and so on these days

The astronomical pricing was the reason snn CDG failed. It was 4-500 each way most flights on a small aircraft. Wasn't a runner for most.

I read it was because they were drinking all the aviation fuel down there that's why they bumped up the ticket prices was in the local rag?

Quackster · 23-09-2019 12:55pm

blackwhite wrote: »

Kerry Group retained all of their head office functions in Tralee.

The centre in Naas has 2 primary functions - a shared services centre for certain accounting/finance functions that pulling in operations from their plants around EMEA, and a R&D facility to support innovation in the ingredients business. Neither function involved relocating jobs from Kerry to Naas. Some management team changed roles and relocated to head up departments in the new facility, but no roles or functions were moved from Tralee to Naas.

Regardless, the staff count in Naas is vastly higher than in Tralee.

blackwhite · 23-09-2019 1:10pm

Quackster wrote: »

Regardless, the staff count in Naas is vastly higher than in Tralee.

Their staff count in Malaysia and in Mexico is much higher than Tralee also - and about as relevant to the claim that "Kerry Group moved most of their operations to Naas to be closer to Dublin Airport".

The claim was that Naas took jobs away from Kerry - which is utter nonsense.
There was never going to be an Innovation Centre, or an EMEA shared service centre, in Tralee. The competition for such a location was basically Cork, Galway, Limerick and greater Dublin - or else overseas.

Naas was selected primarily due to proximity to Dublin city (and the pool of suitable qualified staff for the innovation centre) - not due to the airport.

road_high · 23-09-2019 1:17pm

blackwhite wrote: »

Kerry Group retained all of their head office functions in Tralee.

The centre in Naas has 2 primary functions - a shared services centre for certain accounting/finance functions that pulling in operations from their plants around EMEA, and a R&D facility to support innovation in the ingredients business. Neither function involved relocating jobs from Kerry to Naas. Some management team changed roles and relocated to head up departments in the new facility, but no roles or functions were moved from Tralee to Naas.

I do know of a friend of a friend that's role was moved from Kerry to Naas- it was either move up there or no job. Bare in mind I wasn't directly speaking to the person though.

blackwhite · 23-09-2019 2:01pm

road_high wrote: »

I do know of a friend of a friend that's role was moved from Kerry to Naas- it was either move up there or no job. Bare in mind I wasn't directly speaking to the person though.

I know a few people who were involved in establishing the Naas facility - no functions were moved from Tralee to Naas and anyone moving was by choice, or for a promotion. I know a few who were told that if they wanted progression they’d need to move - but AFAIK there were no cases of people being told that they’d face redundancy if they didn’t move

road_high · 23-09-2019 2:14pm

blackwhite wrote: »

I know a few people who were involved in establishing the Naas facility - no functions were moved from Tralee to Naas and anyone moving was by choice, or for a promotion. I know a few who were told that if they wanted progression they’d need to move - but AFAIK there were no cases of people being told that they’d face redundancy if they didn’t move

I think this person was in the Listowel facility. I wasn't speaking to the person directly myself so was hard to verify if true or not.

Quackster · 23-09-2019 8:24pm

blackwhite wrote: »

Their staff count in Malaysia and in Mexico is much higher than Tralee also - and about as relevant to the claim that "Kerry Group moved most of their operations to Naas to be closer to Dublin Airport".

The claim was that Naas took jobs away from Kerry - which is utter nonsense.
There was never going to be an Innovation Centre, or an EMEA shared service centre, in Tralee. The competition for such a location was basically Cork, Galway, Limerick and greater Dublin - or else overseas.

Naas was selected primarily due to proximity to Dublin city (and the pool of suitable qualified staff for the innovation centre) - not due to the airport.

The fact is that, while expanding substantially elsewhere, they've not been growing employment in Kerry. The small HQ just pays lip service to the company's name. Which I suppose is fair enough as they're just another generic multinational, purely driven by economic concerns.

blackwhite · 23-09-2019 9:24pm

Quackster wrote: »

The fact is that, while expanding substantially elsewhere, they've not been growing employment in Kerry. The small HQ just pays lip service to the company's name. Which I suppose is fair enough as they're just another generic multinational, purely driven by economic concerns.

Very true - but doesn’t support the claim that Dublin airport was causing Kerry to “transfer operations” from Kerry to Naas

road_high · 23-09-2019 9:31pm

blackwhite wrote: »

Very true - but doesn’t support the claim that Dublin airport was causing Kerry to “transfer operations” from Kerry to Naas

You’d have to say it’s a pull factor and a consideration especially if dealing multinationally. May not have been their only factor but being within an hour to 90mins radius of Dublin airport is very important

blackwhite · 23-09-2019 9:37pm

road_high wrote: »

You’d have to say it’s a pull factor and a consideration especially if dealing multinationally. May not have been their only factor but being within an hour to 90mins radius of Dublin airport is very important

The point is that those jobs would never have been in Kerry anyway - nothing it do with the airport, but because of the pool of suitably qualified workers available in the hinterland of a big city.
KIR could have connections to LHR, AMS and CDG but it wouldn’t make a difference in terms of improving the pool of workers suitable for a finance shared services centre, and a food process innovation centre.

ongarboy · 21-01-2020 11:44am

http://traleetoday.ie/new-ryanair-route-to-manchester-announced-by-kerry-airport/

Good news. New KIR:MAN route by Ryanair starting March 29th. Flying Thursdays and Sundays.

embraer170 · 21-01-2020 12:27pm

Great news. 3 months is not a huge amount of time to promote a route... so fingers crossed it survives.

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