Bin Charges by Company.

Sam Russell · 15-06-2016 10:13am #1

Post here the latest bin charges for companies.

Greyhound
City Bin
Thornton
Panda
Green star

Plus any others

Standing Charge - Lift Charge black bin - Green bin - brown bin.

Black bin is landfill, general waste
Green bin is recycle dry waste like paper plastic etc.
Brown bin is compost, food waste etc.

Your bins may be different colours but stick to these designations please.

I will collate the results in this post.

Thank you.

Yggr of Asgard · 15-06-2016 11:46am

Greenstar Fingal

Monthly Service Charge €13.00
Refuse Bin per KG € 0.33 with no lift charge
Recycling Bin per KG free with no lift charge
Compost Bin per KG € 0.20 with no lift charge

Glass service is not available in Fingal
CS says that the current Fuel surcharge of €3.41 per quarter is no longer charged but I believe it when I see it.

Yggr of Asgard · 15-06-2016 11:56am

Panda Swords

6 month Service Charge €43.00
Refuse Bin per KG € 0.27 with €3.20 lift charge
Recycling Bin per KG free with no lift charge
Compost Bin per KG € 0.16 with €2.56 lift charge

I got quoted €0.06 for compost, however others report they get €0.16, so I corrected it.

WealthyB · 15-06-2016 1:02pm

CityBin - Dublin City Council Area

I received an email from CityBin as follows:
€15.12 Monthly Fee
Black Bin €0.27 per Kg
Brown Bin €0.20 per Kg
No pick up fees
Green Bin Free

however their website does not have that pricing and instead has this: (which was offered to me as an "alternative plan for those who could recycle more" - main difference is cheaper Monthly Fee)

€12.95 Monthly Fee
Black Bin €0.30 per Kg
Brown Bin €0.20 per Kg
No pick up fees
Green Bin Free

Psychobabble · 15-06-2016 4:07pm

Greyhound DCC area

€3.25 per week service charge
Black 35c
Brown 23c
Green free

EoC · 15-06-2016 4:37pm

Thorntons

104 annual service fee
.35 per KG general waste
.20 Compost

Service fee used to be 50 per year
40KG lift 9.90 (now 14 euro)

How they can get away with the extra charges is beyond me.

Steve · 15-06-2016 6:15pm

Reposting this from the other thread, Dublin 16.

Steve wrote: »

So based on published prices available on the web, the two options I have are Thorntons or City Bin.

Based on 2015 usage, I am facing a 43% increase in charges - BECAUSE I ALREADY RECYCLE AND HOME COMPOST!!

This is nuts.

Thorntons old Thorntons new City bin option 1 old City bin option 1 new City bin option 2 old City bin option 2 new
Monthly fee €18.00 €12.95 €6.00
Annual fee €50.00 €104.00 €216.00 €155.40 €72.00 €139.00
Black bin lift €9.90 €- €- €- €9.00
Black bin kilo €- €0.35 €- €0.30 €- €0.30

2015 Black lifts 10 €99.00 €- €- €- €90.00 €-
Black kilos 312 €- €109.20 €- €93.60 €- €93.60
Months 12 €50.00 €104.00 €216.00 €155.40 €72.00 €139.00
Total €149.00 €213.20 €216.00 €249.00 €162.00 €232.60

Increase 43% 15% 44%

OldmanMondeo · 15-06-2016 8:08pm

Allied Waste, Mullingar

Service charge €2.99 per week
Waste 25c
Recycle 5c
No brown bin available in the area

vicwatson · 15-06-2016 9:03pm

AES

€90 per 6 months

25 cent per kg for general waste

O cent recycling

Don't know brown bin as not all areas they service have them

guil · 15-06-2016 9:11pm

AES have 2 different plans depending on where you live.
€90 service charge for 6 months with waste at €.25 per kg and organic at €.15 per kg
€60 service charge for 6 months with waste at €.33 per kg and organic at €.19 per kg.
Glass and recycling bins are free.

There's a €3 discount on the service charge for direct debit and €3 for paperless billing. That's 10% on the €60 plan and 6.6% on the €90 plan.
https://www.aesirl.ie/prices-by-weight/?cnt=933&tnl=

unkel · 15-06-2016 10:32pm

Psychobabble wrote: »

Greyhound DCC area

€3.25 per week service charge
Black 35c
Brown 23c
Green free

Or €140 per year, saving yourself €29 (52 * €3.25 = €169)

You have to ring up to tell them you want the annual charge and you have to pay up front

12Phase · 15-06-2016 10:37pm

Just working out one there for a largish family with 2 babies (not my family) and they'd be looking at €853/year !!!?!

I predict Water Charges protests 2.0 ...

Galego · 15-06-2016 10:50pm

How would apartments get affected by these changes? Would annual management fees go up?

Delta2113 · 16-06-2016 12:37am

12Phase wrote: »

Just working out one there for a largish family with 2 babies (not my family) and they'd be looking at €853/year !!!?!

I predict Water Charges protests 2.0 ...

- If Greyhound don't change charges plan's already in place for a blockade of the depot.

foggy_lad · 16-06-2016 2:16am

Ray Whelan Ltd Carlow

****PAY BY WEIGHT PRICING****

Service Charge for having 1 waste bin and 1 recycle bin – €14 per month
Service Charge for having 2 waste bins and 1 recycle bin – €16 per month
Waste – will be charged at 23 cent per KG
Compost (where available) – will be charged at 16 cent per KG
Recycling – will not be charged

Please note monthly service charges will increase by €2 per bin
For example: 1 waste and 1 recycle will be €14.00 per month (2 bins)
1 waste and 2 recycle will be €16.00 per month (3 bins)
2 waste and 1 recycle will be €16.00 per month (3 bins)
2 waste and 2 recycle will be €18.00 per month (4 bins)

https://raywhelan.ie/pay-weight-prices/

Leroy42 · 16-06-2016 10:13am

Just got e-mail for City bin for DCC

2016 charges from January were €150, up fro the €99 the year before.

Weekly standing Charge 2.49
Black Bin 0.35pkg
Brown Bin 0.25 pkg
Green Bin FOC

Based on the last year my costs will go from 150 to 250! That 66% increase in costs.

What can we do about this. It's total madness. If they want to incentivise reduction they why are they allowed to charge a flat service charge. Surely it should all be about the weight or nothing?

Do I write to the local TD, or what?

flanders2006 · 16-06-2016 11:33am

Leroy42 wrote: »

Just got e-mail for City bin for DCC

2016 charges from January were €150, up fro the €99 the year before.

Weekly standing Charge 2.49
Black Bin 0.35pkg
Brown Bin 0.25 pkg
Green Bin FOC

Based on the last year my costs will go from 150 to 250! That 66% increase in costs.

What can we do about this. It's total madness. If they want to incentivise reduction they why are they allowed to charge a flat service charge. Surely it should all be about the weight or nothing?

Do I write to the local TD, or what?

I got a price from City bin of
Weekly standing Charge 2.25
Black Bin 0.39 pkg
Brown Bin 0.32 pkg
Green Bin FOC

How many plans do city bin have as there seems to be loads of different prices being offered.

Agent_47 · 16-06-2016 11:37am

AES Irl , Navan prices, The service charge is €90 for six months or €15 per month.

· Waste bin = 25 cent per KG
· Recycling bin = 0 cent per KG
· Organic bin = 15 cent per KG
· Glass Bin = 0 cent per KG

the €90 charge has gone up from €85 per 6 months.

Leroy42 · 16-06-2016 11:42am

flanders2006 wrote: »

I got a price from City bin of
Weekly standing Charge 2.25
Black Bin 0.39 pkg
Brown Bin 0.32 pkg
Green Bin FOC

How many plans do city bin have as there seems to be loads of different prices being offered.

Yes, that is the second option they offered me, slightly more expensive (like €10 or something).

The standing charges are far too high. This year €150 for the full service and now €117 just to have an account! And surely there should be a statutory charge per kilo, rather than allowing the supplier to pick and choose. Why does a higher standing charge lead to a lower per kilo price? It makes no sense (except of course for profit) in terms of the claimed desire to reduce waste. Pay a higher standing charge (profit goes directly to supplier) and you can throw more sh1t out.

venomousfrog · 16-06-2016 11:42am

Ray Whelan Bins - Carlow/Laois

Present monthly payments is 23pm

Now :

Service charge - 14euro PM
Waste bin - 23c per KG
Recycling bin - free
Compost bin - 16c per KG

Leroy42 · 16-06-2016 11:51am

Here are the statutory minimum rates that will be allowed from 01 July:

Almost all households using a refuse collection service have to pay waste charges. Waste charges and methods of payment can vary considerably. Check with your refuse collection operator for further details.

A pay-by-weight charging system will be implemented throughout the State from 1 July 2016. The Government has set a minimum mandatory fee per kilo for the different types of household waste:

11c for residual waste (usually black or grey bins)
6c for organic waste (usually brown bins)
Zero cent for recyclable materials (usually green bins)
These mandatory rates are the lowest that can apply for each type of waste, but the collection companies can choose to set charges that they consider competitive. They may also charge a service fee.

So the reason my bills are going up so much is that CityBin are fleecing us on the per kilo price. What happens to this minimum fee anyway, is it a levy that needs to be paid over to the state?

foggy_lad · 16-06-2016 12:08pm

Leroy42 wrote: »

Here are the statutory minimum rates that will be allowed from 01 July:

Almost all households using a refuse collection service have to pay waste charges. Waste charges and methods of payment can vary considerably. Check with your refuse collection operator for further details.

A pay-by-weight charging system will be implemented throughout the State from 1 July 2016. The Government has set a minimum mandatory fee per kilo for the different types of household waste:

11c for residual waste (usually black or grey bins)
6c for organic waste (usually brown bins)
Zero cent for recyclable materials (usually green bins)
These mandatory rates are the lowest that can apply for each type of waste, but the collection companies can choose to set charges that they consider competitive. They may also charge a service fee.

So the reason my bills are going up so much is that CityBin are fleecing us on the per kilo price. What happens to this minimum fee anyway, is it a levy that needs to be paid over to the state?

Our politicians, Taoiseach and especially the children Coveney and Howlin mad Brendan seem to think that these minimum prices are what companies are going to be charging and that they would not gouge the sh1te out of it just because we don't have good government.

TallGlass · 16-06-2016 12:17pm

City bin here. 2.99 service charge, 35c for grey and 30c for brown.

I am finding it hard to come across anyone going to save money. I found 24€ P/M high but with waste output of 35kg P/M I might have to revise my 34€ P/M to closer to 40€ P/M. What the **** like.

And this service charge is going to apply if your bin is lifted or not. So it's what 12€ P/M without a single bit of waste been moved.

To hell with that. All in one bag and down the compactor down the recycle place, enviroment is the biggest loser in this.

16-06-2016 4:59pm

Leroy42 wrote: »

Yes, that is the second option they offered me, slightly more expensive (like €10 or something).

The standing charges are far too high. This year €150 for the full service and now €117 just to have an account! And surely there should be a statutory charge per kilo, rather than allowing the supplier to pick and choose. Why does a higher standing charge lead to a lower per kilo price? It makes no sense (except of course for profit) in terms of the claimed desire to reduce waste. Pay a higher standing charge (profit goes directly to supplier) and you can throw more sh1t out.

I received an email from City bin also "the most appropriate (cheapest) option for you is plan 1 below. You don’t need to do anything to avail of this plan, you will be switched automatically on July 1st."

Weekly standing Charge 2.25
Black Bin 0.39 pkg
Brown Bin 0.32 pkg
Green Bin FOC

I was given no other option and from the looks of things this is the most expensive option available.

If even one company was to show they weren't profiteering form the new legislation I would sign up immediately, as I'm sure most other people would too. :mad:

Sam Russell · 16-06-2016 7:07pm

I just received my notification from City Bin Co.

I pay €13.50 per month for green. brown, and black.

They are giving me: €2.99 per week standing charge = €13.11 per week.

Green = free, Brown = 20c and Black 30c.

so more than 1 kg per month of either brown or black will cost more.

or alternatively

€2.49 per week standing charge = €10.79 per week.

Green = free, Brown = 25c and Black 35c.

So I can save money on this plan if I put out 7 kg per month black or 10 kg per month brown bin.

This is a massive price increase. I actually rarely put out my black bin. So my grass cuttings go back to composting - that is about 85% of the brown bin.

They should have reduced the standing charge by at least 50% if they were to keep charging neutral.

foggy_lad · 16-06-2016 7:33pm

Report on RTE 6 one News talks about "some" companies raising their service charge slightly, You'd think they were briefed earlier by the ministers involved,

LynnGrace · 16-06-2016 7:49pm

Kassandra Fat Thanksgiving wrote: »

I received an email from City bin also "the most appropriate (cheapest) option for you is plan 1 below. You don’t need to do anything to avail of this plan, you will be switched automatically on July 1st."

Weekly standing Charge 2.25
Black Bin 0.39 pkg
Brown Bin 0.32 pkg
Green Bin FOC

I was given no other option and from the looks of things this is the most expensive option available.

If even one company was to show they weren't profiteering form the new legislation I would sign up immediately, as I'm sure most other people would too. :mad:

That's the email we got too. :mad:

Mr E · 16-06-2016 7:51pm

Bin companies are laughing their holes off. Raises for everyone.

earlyapex · 16-06-2016 8:01pm

When my broadband price changes during my contact term I can terminate my contract and switch provider without penalty, so why would my bin contract be different?
It's just another service provider.

Has anyone got information like this about leaving their contract?

jimmycrackcorm · 16-06-2016 8:09pm

I worked out on my city bin plan that my monthly cost would go up by â‚¬6. However by being more careful about what I bin and finally getting a brown bin, I'd expect to be able to undo that.

Plan B of course is to fill my bin with helium balloons and send an invoice to city bin for a refund.

Sam Russell · 16-06-2016 8:10pm

earlyapex wrote: »

When my broadband price changes during my contact term I can terminate my contract and switch provider without penalty, so why would my bin contract be different?
It's just another service provider.

Has anyone got information like this about leaving their contract?

But who do you change to? They are nearly all the same rip-off.

foggy_lad · 16-06-2016 8:10pm

earlyapex wrote: »

When my broadband price changes during my contact term I can terminate my contract and switch provider without penalty, so why would my bin contract be different?
It's just another service provider.

Has anyone got information like this about leaving their contract?

all the waste companies are basically charging the same rates, some are slightly cheaper with service charge but make that up with a higher kg charge

purplestar1986 · 16-06-2016 8:14pm

OldmanMondeo wrote: »

Allied Waste, Mullingar

Service charge €2.99 per week
Waste 25c
Recycle 5c
No brown bin available in the area

Hi, is Allied Waste now called Allied Recycling? Just wondering as I haven't received my information pack yet. Did they happen to mention how the service charge will be applied?

Thanks,

Sinead

reach for the stars · 16-06-2016 8:29pm

Amazing how there is not much difference between the prices for companies that are introducing a new type of service ,

mikeym · 16-06-2016 10:30pm

Country Clean in Co.Cork have not announced their prices.

Thats because they are waiting for the rivals to announce their charges first.

flanders2006 · 17-06-2016 10:50am

Kassandra Fat Thanksgiving wrote: »

I received an email from City bin also "the most appropriate (cheapest) option for you is plan 1 below. You don’t need to do anything to avail of this plan, you will be switched automatically on July 1st."

Weekly standing Charge 2.25
Black Bin 0.39 pkg
Brown Bin 0.32 pkg
Green Bin FOC

I was given no other option and from the looks of things this is the most expensive option available.

If even one company was to show they weren't profiteering form the new legislation I would sign up immediately, as I'm sure most other people would too. :mad:

I emailed City bin stating I know of cheaper plans etc. They came back and said they made an eror and offered me €2.99 per week and 30c and 20C per Kg, same as on website if I try to sign up now.

I only joined last month after moving house and paid full annual fee in advance so I asked what happens this money....

the 2.99 per week if paid in annual amount is €139 nd then 11% off if you pay in advance.

Based on a 25Kg grey/black bin and 13Kg brown bin I am looking at 100% increase on the fee I paid a month ago

flanders2006 · 17-06-2016 10:52am

earlyapex wrote: »

When my broadband price changes during my contact term I can terminate my contract and switch provider without penalty, so why would my bin contract be different?
It's just another service provider.

Has anyone got information like this about leaving their contract?

I emailed City Bin asking am I under a contract as I paid in advance or seeing as they changedthe pric can i get a refund.

Waiting on reply

doolox · 18-06-2016 1:39am

Does a household have to have a bin service?? Could you hold onto your waste in you own bought bins and bring it to a civic amenity centre at regular intervals at a cheaper cost than the current proposed cost from the bin companies?

foggy_lad · 18-06-2016 1:41am

doolox wrote: »

Does a household have to have a bin service?? Could you hold onto your waste in you own bought bins and bring it to a civic amenity centre at regular intervals at a cheaper cost than the current proposed cost from the bin companies?

Yes you can but get and keep receipts just to prove you are not dumping it illegally.

Bananaleaf · 18-06-2016 1:46am

Interesting wording of the Thorntons letter re: Green Bin - said that they had decided "not to charge at this time"

hmmmm

vickers209 · 19-06-2016 10:18pm

AWD in wicklow has posted the following prices

smjm · 19-06-2016 10:55pm

vickers209 wrote: »

AWD in wicklow has posted the following prices

At least they say they'll be publishing a different price plan for the occasional user next week. That's where some of us are seeing a big rise, with a yearly charge no matter how many or few times we put the bin out.

foggy_lad · 19-06-2016 11:39pm

smjm wrote: »

At least they say they'll be publishing a different price plan for the occasional user next week. That's where some of us are seeing a big rise, with a yearly charge no matter how many or few times we put the bin out.

That will just be a lower service charge with much higher price per kg the same as all the rest!

smjm · 19-06-2016 11:43pm

foggy_lad wrote: »

That will just be a lower service charge with much higher price per kg the same as all the rest!

Very possibly, given how things are going, or could be that the backlash is having an effect! Be interesting to see, to confirm one way or the other.

foggy_lad · 19-06-2016 11:49pm

several of the other companies have two price plans to take the lower volume user into the mix and make sure they pay as much of the increase as everyone else.

tobdom · 20-06-2016 8:50am

Here are the prices Barna Recycling in Galway (Headford area) have quoted:

€17/month service charge
€0.22c/kg general was/black bin
No charge by weight on recycling
No brown/organic bin service offered

Not too bad considering.... this is changing from a flat fee of €175 for 6 months.

Spocker · 20-06-2016 10:21am

Greenstar Kilkenny have listed the following prices:

Bill Pay Account
Monthly Charge €14.50
General Waste per KG €0.25
Recycling per KG €0.00
Compost per KG €0.15

For the record, they don't currently supply a compost/brown bin, it all has to go in with the general waste. Greenstar also take glass in the recycling bin. The current charge is 31.50/month

Leroy42 · 20-06-2016 10:30am

It pretty clear that that cin companies have attempted to use the new PBW scheme as a way to increase revenue.

The standing charges have, in most cases, been brought up to close to the current all in prices in places that currently have all in, so that regardless of what the customer does the revenue stream is pretty much guaranteed to remain at the very least the current levels.

Couple that with the significant markup on the minimum per PG pricing and it is, in most cases, impossible to lower you overall bill, save for most using the bins at all, in which case the standing charge is irrelevant.

A standing charge of €3+ per week is simply a rip off. There really should be no standing charge, a cost per lift maybe but why would you pay a standing charge to have bins sitting in your driveway. There is no cost to the bin company to service you bins outside of the collection

Agent_47 · 20-06-2016 7:28pm

I don't rate Coveney's chances on getting a result. I think they actually have scored a glorious own goal again and cannot get out of it fast enough. The industry is run by private enterprise and they are entitled it would seem to seek a fair price to do the work, although there is evidence here that they won't thread on each others patch.

Sam Russell · 20-06-2016 7:40pm

When DCC 'sold' their bin collection to Greyhound in a secret deal, not one bin company would quote us for our bin collection. Panda were collecting bins in our road and Thorntons were collecting nearby as well as Keywaste.

There was clearly some type of embargo over the changeover. I never found out why, but then Citybin started up and have been far superior to Greyhound - even forcing Greyhound to cut their charges.

Agent_47 · 20-06-2016 7:43pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

When DCC 'sold' their bin collection to Greyhound in a secret deal, not one bin company would quote us for our bin collection. Panda were collecting bins in our road and Thorntons were collecting nearby as well as Keywaste.

There was clearly some type of embargo over the changeover. I never found out why, but then Citybin started up and have been far superior to Greyhound - even forcing Greyhound to cut their charges.

Have a feeling the consumer is going to lose out on this one, even if Coveney bats the issue away for a year it will come back with teeth.

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