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    #92
    ohnonotgmail
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    the beer revolu wrote: »
    It seems I've touched a nerve.
    Perhaps you know that you drink to excess but don't like to admit it.

    Or maybe you come across as a condescending arse. who can tell.


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    #93
    the beer revolu
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Or maybe you come across as a condescending arse. who can tell.

    Your probably grumpy because you drank too much last night. I don't take offence.


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    #94
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,500 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    meeeeh wrote: »
    You do understand term moderate drinking? 2 drinks would be approximately a glass of wine you get in a restaurant in Ireland.

    Consumption of alcohol, up to 4 drinks per day in men and 2 drinks per day in women, was inversely associated with total mortality

    2 glasses of wine = 2x150ml glasses.

    The amount of a drink was taken as quantified by each author whenever possible; otherwise (7 studies) it was considered equivalent to 10 g of ethanol; considering a drink equivalent to either 12 or 14 g of ethanol did not change our results (data not shown).

    I've posted the studies, maybe read them before making snarky comments.


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    #95
    Greyfox
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    the beer revolu wrote: »
    It seems I've touched a nerve.
    Perhaps you know that you drink to excess but don't like to admit it.

    You made an assumption which is not a nice thing to do. Some people are irritating after 7 pints and some people are more fun and interesting after 7 pints.


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    #96
    the beer revolu
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    Greyfox wrote: »
    You made an assumption which is not a nice thing to do. Some people are irritating after 7 pints and some people are more fun and interesting after 7 pints.

    Depends on the time scale.
    I don't think I've ever met anyone who Ive found fun or interesting after 7 pints of an evening.
    Remember, people here are saying that 7 pints is the low end of the scale.


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    #97
    El_Duderino 09
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    Greyfox wrote: »
    Maybe he is basing it on science or maybe its just basing it on the millions of people who go well over the limit regularly and havent needed to ever visit a hospital

    Same as the “my granny smoked 30 a day etc” argument?

    This whole thing is starting from what people want to be true and working from there. A surprising number of people don’t believe smoking while pregnant harms the child. “Shur i smoked while I was pregnant and my children are grand”.

    It’s just an interesting aspect of human nature.


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    #98
    Hector Savage
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    the beer revolu wrote: »
    I bet to someone who is sober, you are a drunk bore after 7 pints. Maybe not falling around.

    Who would be hanging around sober when someone had a load of pints, usually they drink together, for sure drunks are a bore for sober people, but it's great craic getting hammered together.

    Sober people can go to the theatre or the Chester poxy Beatty museum!!


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    #99
    ohnonotgmail
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    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Your probably grumpy because you drank too much last night. I don't take offence.

    there you go making assumptions again. I am grumpy but because i have a migraine. nothing to do with drink but thank you for your concern.


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    #100
    the beer revolu
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    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Who would be hanging around sober when someone had a load of pints, usually they drink together, for sure drunks are a bore for sober people, but it's great craic getting hammered together.

    Sober people can go to the theatre or the Chester poxy Beatty museum!!

    Or perhaps be sharing the same bar, while drinking, as the person who's had a rake of pints.
    Am I not allowed go to the pub unless I'm getting blathered?


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    #101
    Greyfox
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    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Depends on the time scale.
    I don't think I've ever met anyone who Ive found fun or interesting after 7 pints of an evening.
    Remember, people here are saying that 7 pints is the low end of the scale.

    Sounds like your socialising with the wrong people, I find most people to me more interesting after a few pints and most Irish people would agree.


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    #102
    jimgoose
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    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Or perhaps be sharing the same bar, while drinking, as the person who's had a rake of pints.
    Am I not allowed go to the pub unless I'm getting blathered?

    Most bars are big enough for sober gentlemen like you to stay out of the circle of the more blathered denizens, surely? :D


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    #103
    Geuze
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    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Depends on the time scale.
    I don't think I've ever met anyone who Ive found fun or interesting after 7 pints of an evening.
    Remember, people here are saying that 7 pints is the low end of the scale.

    7 pints of beer is a lot.

    If you think it's not a lot, reflect on that.

    I have been drinking beer for 25 years, and I would rarely drink 7 pints.

    I would often drink 4-5, but it is not linear.


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    #104
    the beer revolu
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    jimgoose wrote: »
    Most bars are big enough for sober gentlemen like you to stay out of the circle of the more blathered denizens, surely? :D

    I like to drink at the bar. I can hardly insist that the pissed people don't.


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    #105
    the beer revolu
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    Greyfox wrote: »
    Sounds like your socialising with the wrong people, I find most people to me more interesting after a few pints and most Irish people would agree.

    A few pints isn't 7+ pints


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    #106
    El_Duderino 09
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    Greyfox wrote: »
    Sounds like your socialising with the wrong people, I find most people to me more interesting after a few pints and most Irish people would agree.

    When they’ve had 7pints and you’re sober or when you’ve had 7 pints? Because there’s a massive difference.

    I went without booze am for a month recently and I can tell you that the conversations I would love having when drunk are tedious when you’re sober. People talk pure brown when drunk. You and I might remember being terrible witty when we and everyone in the group is drunk. But to a sober person it’s mostly the most obvious joke, just slow witted nonsense

    Still had a laugh. But I really doubt anyone with 7 pints is particularly interesting to a sober person.


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    #107
    meeeeh
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    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Consumption of alcohol, up to 4 drinks per day in men and 2 drinks per day in women, was inversely associated with total mortality

    2 glasses of wine = 2x150ml glasses.

    The amount of a drink was taken as quantified by each author whenever possible; otherwise (7 studies) it was considered equivalent to 10 g of ethanol; considering a drink equivalent to either 12 or 14 g of ethanol did not change our results (data not shown).

    I've posted the studies, maybe read them before making snarky comments.
    Yes and when exactly did you get a 150ml glass of wine in Ireland? That is also assuming alcohol is around 12% and not more.


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    #108
    runawaybishop
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    DaeryssaOne wrote: »
    I'm saying this as somebody who has drank far too much in my own time and then finally realised that it does absolutely nothing good for me.

    Nothing worse than a born again zealot. :rolleyes:


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    #109
    runawaybishop
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    meeeeh wrote: »
    Yes and when exactly did you get a 150ml glass of wine in Ireland? That is also assuming alcohol is around 12% and not more.

    600ml a day of wine, thats 6 bottles a week and at 12% (studies showed no difference at 12g +-2g which is over 12%) that would equal 60 units a week. Well above the recommended amounts which i have said earlier are pretty much made up nonsense.

    Whats your point? You seem to just be arguing and moving goalposts.


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    #110
    earlytobed
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    I found myself in front of a liver specialist a few years ago. He considered 15 units a week to be heavy drinking and advised me to not drink but If I must, drink less than 10 units a week.


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    #111
    meeeeh
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    runawaybishop wrote: »
    600ml a day of wine, thats 6 bottles a week and at 12% (studies showed no difference at 12g +-2g which is over 12%) that would equal 60 units a week. Well above the recommended amounts which i have said earlier are pretty much made up nonsense.

    Whats your point? You seem to just be arguing and moving goalposts.

    5.6 for a man (for a woman it is less than 3 bottles at upper limit) and at certain alcohol percentage. You are also saying 2-4 drinks means 4 in every case not 2-4 and for a man. As far as I know it also depends when you are drinking and not binging. If you want to reduce studies to basic numbers at upper levels of everything just to claim you can drink as much as you like then do. But a glass of wine with lunch and dinner is different than 10 on Friday.


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    #112
    Strumms
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    Geuze wrote: »
    7 pints of beer is a lot.

    If you think it's not a lot, reflect on that.

    I have been drinking beer for 25 years, and I would rarely drink 7 pints.

    I would often drink 4-5, but it is not linear.

    Yep 7 is a lot, that’s remarkably unhealthy to be necking that many night after night. That’s about 4 litres of beer by my amateur calculations. 28 litres of beer a week.... :eek:


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    #113
    meeeeh
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    runawaybishop wrote: »
    600ml a day of wine, thats 6 bottles a week and at 12% (studies showed no difference at 12g +-2g which is over 12%) that would equal 60 units a week. Well above the recommended amounts which i have said earlier are pretty much made up nonsense.

    Whats your point? You seem to just be arguing and moving goalposts.

    5.6 bottles for a man (for a woman it is less than 3 bottles at upper limit) and at certain alcohol percentage. You are also saying 2-4 drinks means 4 in every case not 2-4 and for a man. As far as I know it also depends when you are drinking and not binging. If you want to reduce studies to basic numbers at upper levels of everything just to claim you can drink as much as you like then do. But a glass of wine with lunch and dinner is different than 10 on Friday.


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    #114
    Hector Savage
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    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Or perhaps be sharing the same bar, while drinking, as the person who's had a rake of pints.
    Am I not allowed go to the pub unless I'm getting blathered?

    Course not, but I notice groups tend to gravitate together...
    it's unlikely you will be socializing with people having a tray of pints if you're only having 1 or 2 ...


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    #115
    wakka12
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    What do you mean nonsense? Theyre just trying to give the best advice possible so the public can make informed decisions to protect their health. Theyre not saying it to piss drinkers off ,no point getting mad about it because you want to drink more than that without consequence or because our culture has normalised drnking more than that in one sitting


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    #116
    jimgoose
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    DaeryssaOne wrote: »
    The rubbish about drinking being good for you is so ridiculous. The anti-oxidants you get from say a glass of red wine can also be found in blueberries and you don't bore everyone else to tears with your crap drunken antics after eating blueberries.

    It's lovely to see how the younger generations are no longer placing so much emphasis on alcohol and are seeing it for the poison it really is. I'm saying this as somebody who has drank far too much in my own time and then finally realised that it does absolutely nothing good for me.
    It's a weird thing where so many people are brainwashed to fear they would be boring / different if they didn't guzzle a poison dressed up with sugar and flavours multiple times a week.

    I dunno - a thirty-something woman extolling the virtues of blueberries and lamenting getting totes-bants-bllndo on alcopop in her earlier years would sure bore the bollocks off me. :pac:


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    #117
    the beer revolu
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    Hector Savage wrote: »
    it's unlikely you will be socializing with people having a tray of pints if you're only having 1 or 2 ...

    Why?
    I already said that I like to drink at the bar.
    Drunk people also drink at the bar.
    Not everyone drinks in packs.


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    #118
    El_Duderino 09
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    earlytobed wrote: »
    I found myself in front of a liver specialist a few years ago. He considered 15 units a week to be heavy drinking and advised me to not drink but If I must, drink less than 10 units a week.

    Lol. Some people have already satisfied themselves that doctors and scientists don’t know anything and it’s all made up.

    “Shur, you wouldn’t even be drunk after 7 pints so how can it be doing harm?” seems to be seen as a clever argument by some.


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    #119
    jimgoose
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    the beer revolu wrote: »
    Why?
    I already said that I like to drink at the bar.
    Drunk people also drink at the bar.
    Not everyone drinks in packs.

    A lot of people drink socially, in groups. Myself for example, usually. If you're having a couple at the bar in a lot of places there is a good chance of interacting with some disciple who's had a gallon too many alright.


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    #120
    Greyfox
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    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    When they’ve had 7pints and you’re sober or when you’ve had 7 pints? Because there’s a massive difference.

    I went without booze am for a month recently and I can tell you that the conversations I would love having when drunk are tedious when you’re sober. People talk pure brown when drunk. You and I might remember being terrible witty when we and everyone in the group is drunk. But to a sober person it’s mostly the most obvious joke, just slow witted nonsense

    Still had a laugh. But I really doubt anyone with 7 pints is particularly interesting to a sober person.

    Your right, theirs a massive difference. But then again if a sober person has chosen to sit in a pub without drinking while the vast majority drink they have to allow for this


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    #121
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users Posts: 8,810 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    earlytobed wrote: »
    I found myself in front of a liver specialist a few years ago. He considered 15 units a week to be heavy drinking and advised me to not drink but If I must, drink less than 10 units a week.

    I spoke to a spanish doctor once (dunno where he got his medical degree - probably in a f*cking lucky bag) that told me two 330ml bottles of Beer a WEEK was barely OK ... but don't go to 3.


    Clown, wouldn't bring my sick dog to him.


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