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  • #352
    Oafley Jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Shlippery wrote: »
    Will be giving that a go at midnight!

    Quest + Link + Logitech Xtreme 3d pro, not quite as glamorous!

    It'll be be a bit better than my PSVR. I still can't believe this is finally happening. Basically a fairly faithful update of those games I played the **** out of 25 years ago.


  • #353
    Shlippery
    Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    Hmph, link didn't work again, just loaded into blank screen.


    Guess i'll play it the 'old fashioned way! Looks great all the same!


  • #354
    Oafley Jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    This is actually not bad (visually) on PSVR. Need to get a HOTAS setup though. Only criticism, does the cockpit fell very small. Battlefront's felt right.


  • #355
    saneman
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭saneman


    Just fyi on SW:Squadrons for those of you dusting off HOTAS systems, there seems to be an issue with hard coded deadzones i.e. in effect even when set to zero in settings. There are workarounds using 3rd party remapping.

    https://steamcommunity.com/app/1222730/discussions/0/2940245647582759855/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsSquadrons/comments/j3f31x/anyone_else_having_issues_with_massive_deadzone/

    I don't know how much this would affect the "feel" in VR but i'm gonna wait to see if it will be patched.


  • #356
    Doge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,059 ✭✭✭Doge


    https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/jcat8t/he_did/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

    :eek:


  • #357
    Doge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,059 ✭✭✭Doge


    529584.jpg


  • #358
    Doge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,059 ✭✭✭Doge


    Impressive tech at a high price:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQP72oYkfk4


  • #359
    glic83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭glic83


    Hi all, just looking for general feedback, my son aged 9 1/2 has mentioned a quest on his Santa list, general feeling on what age they are actually suitable for? (I've read the advice not for under 14 )
    We don't have a console in the house, we've a PC that he uses for gaming and had planned on using that next year ( holding off with all the new cpu's and gpu's coming out, prices are a bit all over the place) the gpu in the current machine definitely wouldn't be good enough for VR as it stands. (i7 3470, 8 gb ddr3 ram , geforce 760 2gb so pushing on) so that would rule out the rift.
    I think this might be a bit too much at his age? So looking at feedback from parents who have kids of a similar age.
    Many thanks.


  • #360
    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    No kids - well apart from me, I'm 40 and 3/4 with a mental age of about 11. VR is a massive novelty. Great for the first few weeks but then you really need a use for it like simulation games for example. Under 10 is very young for VR IMHO and if he is in anyway prone to motion sickness it's just going to be a device for making him throw up.

    There is a cure for it, but I was cured of motion sickness in the 90s and I'm not sure it would be compatible with modern parenting.


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  • #361
    glic83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭glic83


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    No kids - well apart from me, I'm 40 and 3/4 with a mental age of about 11. VR is a massive novelty. Great for the first few weeks but then you really need a use for it like simulation games for example. Under 10 is very young for VR IMHO and if he is in anyway prone to motion sickness it's just going to be a device for making him throw up.

    There is a cure for it, but I was cured of motion sickness in the 90s and I'm not sure it would be compatible with modern parenting.

    Cheers for the reply, yeah think I will give it a miss for now and revisit it at a later stage who knows what will be available then, might get him a switch instead, I'm sure he'd still enjoy that, and upgrade the PC in a few months too.


  • #362
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    glic83 wrote: »
    Cheers for the reply, yeah think I will give it a miss for now and revisit it at a later stage who knows what will be available then, might get him a switch instead, I'm sure he'd still enjoy that, and upgrade the PC in a few months too.

    Yeah I'd say 10 might be a bit young considering you do need to take pretty good care of the thing (don't let light into the lenses etc)

    But then again he did ask for it... curious how kids are finding out about it? Must be some YouTube influencers pushing it to kids?


  • #363
    glic83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭glic83


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Yeah I'd say 10 might be a bit young considering you do need to take pretty good care of the thing (don't let light into the lenses etc)

    But then again he did ask for it... curious how kids are finding out about it? Must be some YouTube influencers pushing it to kids?

    One of he's friends in class has a quest 1, so he's aware of it from there and he only mentioned it recently, now his friend is around 11, one of the older kids in the class my son would be one of the youngest in the class. It's also possible that some YouTuber is pushing it but generally he'd show me the video like last night how he wanted to show me some video of Subnautica - sub zero.


  • #364
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    glic83 wrote: »
    One of he's friends in class has a quest 1, so he's aware of it from there and he only mentioned it recently, now his friend is around 11, one of the older kids in the class my son would be one of the youngest in the class. It's also possible that some YouTuber is pushing it but generally he'd show me the video like last night how he wanted to show me some video of Subnautica - sub zero.

    I mean, if it's what he asked for, would he not be disappointed in not getting it?

    It's a superb device, but even better if playing with his friends as some multi player games are great for kids (like Rec Room which is free).

    He'll need a Facebook account though, so something to bear in mind.


  • #365
    glic83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭glic83


    mrcheez wrote: »
    I mean, if it's what he asked for, would he not be disappointed in not getting it?

    It's a superb device, but even better if playing with his friends as some multi player games are great for kids (like Rec Room which is free).

    He'll need a Facebook account though, so something to bear in mind.

    It wasn't on the official Santa list, so should be fine, it was more a case of I already know what I want for Christmas next year, so he will be ok, would have got it if I thought it was age appropriate as he hasn't asked for much TBF, he did mention it he could be would add it to let for this year but it's too late ,just feel he's too young for it at the minute and I don't know enough about it myself.


  • #366
    saneman
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭saneman


    glic83 wrote: »
    One of he's friends in class has a quest 1, so he's aware of it from there and he only mentioned it recently, now his friend is around 11, one of the older kids in the class my son would be one of the youngest in the class. It's also possible that some YouTuber is pushing it but generally he'd show me the video like last night how he wanted to show me some video of Subnautica - sub zero.

    After a bit of pleading I let my 10yo nephew have a short trial of my Rift CV1 (fully supervised and nerve-wracking from my point of view) and the fit itself wasn't really suitable for his smaller head. How that compares to the Quest I'm not sure but general safety and awareness of surroundings while in VR could also be an issue (eye strain may be a greater problem for younger eyes too).

    In any case the likes of Subnautica would need to be tethered to a suitably powered PC/laptop.


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  • #367
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    glic83 wrote: »
    It wasn't on the official Santa list, so should be fine, it was more a case of I already know what I want for Christmas next year, so he will be ok, would have got it if I thought it was age appropriate as he hasn't asked for much TBF, he did mention it he could be would add it to let for this year but it's too late ,just feel he's too young for it at the minute and I don't know enough about it myself.

    Ah fair enough, if it's not a "must have" then yeah might be better to wait till the 12s upwards.

    If you want more Quest-specific responses, it might be better posting a question on the Quest thread as there are likely more people who might be familiar with letting kids use it: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057964784

    This thread is not viewed that much by the Quest/PSVR crowd afaik.. more the old-timers who got into VR back in the early days :)


  • #368
    Doge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,059 ✭✭✭Doge


    EMU VR our favourite VR emulation environment just received a netplay update!

    I have yet to see the simulated CRT goodness in higher resolution since I upgraded to the Oculus Quest 2. Must give it a go soon.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZsBaOFi9vM


  • #369
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Was playing Beat Saber again this evening on my Rift S hooked up to my 2015 Asus g751jy laptop and it runs fine.. Smooth and no drops. There are very few laptops from that year that can run it. The original Rift required a powered usb 3 hub with this laptop and it was a bit of a ball ache in general.

    Think I'll be into this again for the next few months. Suggest any games ye feel like that would run on lower quality hardware. Games more like SuperHot than Alyx.


  • #370
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Was playing Beat Saber again this evening on my Rift S hooked up to my 2015 Asus g751jy laptop and it runs fine.. Smooth and no drops. There are very few laptops from that year that can run it. The original Rift required a powered usb 3 hub with this laptop and it was a bit of a ball ache in general.

    Think I'll be into this again for the next few months. Suggest any games ye feel like that would run on lower quality hardware. Games more like SuperHot than Alyx.

    In Death is superb


  • #371
    Damien360
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,599 ✭✭✭Damien360


    Bought a HTC vive second hand for Christmas for the young lad. Unfortunately today we discovered that the left hand pad is not working right and looses tracking.

    I am wondering if anyone has a damaged system with one working track pad that I could buy off you. Or I’ll buy both track pads off you. Don’t need the headset or base stations.

    There is a few on adverts but I’ll try here first.


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  • #372
    kerplun k
    Registered Users Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭kerplun k


    Rumours that Apple are releasing a headset.
    Anytime Apple get involved in anything mass adoption follows.

    https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-glasses-ar-vr-headsets-these-are-the-latest-leaks-and-rumors/


  • #373
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    kerplun k wrote: »
    Rumours that Apple are releasing a headset.
    Anytime Apple get involved in anything mass adoption follows.

    https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-glasses-ar-vr-headsets-these-are-the-latest-leaks-and-rumors/

    yeah I'm excited where the whole AR/VR glasses thing is going.


  • #374
    Shlippery
    Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    NASA Livestreaming space walk on the ISS now.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3tVWmP0CMc (space walk live)!

    Kinda cool how well it's replicated in VR - still my fav VR experiences!!
    https://www.oculus.com/experiences/rift/1246744618768922/?locale=en_US
    https://www.oculus.com/experiences/rift/1178419975552187/?locale=en_US


  • #375
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    thinking of upgrading from my oculus cv1, what is the obvious upgrade? dont want to spend htc money so thinking maybe the oculus quest 2


  • #376
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    thinking of upgrading from my oculus cv1, what is the obvious upgrade? dont want to spend htc money so thinking maybe the oculus quest 2

    Yeah it's a great upgrade. You get no SDE and can play all your games wirelessly (using Virtual Desktop).

    Just be aware of the Facebook requirement.


  • #377
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Surprised how cheap the Rift is these days, last I checked these were close to €1,000
    So which is the best option these days, primarily for gaming? My preference would be to go wireless with the quest 2, but I don't know if it can play the same games as the rift? Is there any need for the 256gb option? 64gb sounds very poor, but I'm guessing its mostly streaming and the 64gb is good enough for installing apps and games locally?

    Edit: I see they are stopping the Rift S and focussing on the Quest lineup. I guess that answers my question!


  • #378
    Shlippery
    Registered Users Posts: 2,261 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    Yep, Quest 2 is the way to go. Yer definitely in for a treat compared to when things were close to €1000!

    I think 64gb is grand, I wouldn't normally keep a full roster of things installed at any given time, there are a few core things that I'd keep at 4/5gb each. But depends on how much you plan on using it!


  • #379
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    quest 2 can be attached to a pc for full graphical fidelity correct?


  • #380
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What's involved in setting up a facebook account for it? Can I give myself a dummy name or do they look for some Id? What about a mobile number is that required? Do you have to keep the account active in order to prevent it being banned? Bollix this is a big problem for me, I've never had a Facebook account in my life.

    Whats the HTC equivalent to the quest 2? Do they have the same games?


  • #381
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    quest 2 can be attached to a pc for full graphical fidelity correct?

    Yes it can be attached via a cable, but you can get just as good (sometimes even better as less latency) going the Virtual Desktop method with a good router.

    I play all my Rift games using the Quest 2 now and my wired Rift has been gathering dust.

    Graphic quality is incredible. I was playing Asgard's Wrath last week and it blew me away.
    Deleted User wrote: »
    What's involved in setting up a facebook account for it? Can I give myself a dummy name or do they look for some Id? What about a mobile number is that required? Do you have to keep the account active in order to prevent it being banned? Bollix this is a big problem for me, I've never had a Facebook account in my life.

    Whats the HTC equivalent to the quest 2? Do they have the same games?

    The Quest 2 is really on its own when it comes to wireless. If you want wireless you gotta go with Facebook unfortunately.

    I have a fake account which I created years ago and it's been fine... but if you are going to create one, make sure you do it well in advance of buying the Quest 2, and add a few posts or friend some people. Make sure to add a photo from https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/

    You don't need to use it regularly... I just pop on once every 2 weeks or so to reply to my sister (who is my only "Friend" on it)


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  • #382
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Is there any need for the 256gb option? 64gb sounds very poor, but I'm guessing its mostly streaming and the 64gb is good enough for installing apps and games locally?

    Newer games are coming up to the 6-8GB mark so take that as an indication of how it might go in future.

    On a 64GB you have 50GB of storage space so if you buy 8 x 6GB games you're full up... but bear in mind many games are only 2GB.

    I'm currently using 90GB on my one and this is mainly sideloaded content and a video.


    Sideloaded games like Doom 3 and Return to Castle Wolfenstein are great fun on this.


  • #383
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Yes it can be attached via a cable, but you can get just as good (sometimes even better as less latency) going the Virtual Desktop method with a good router.

    I play all my Rift games using the Quest 2 now and my wired Rift has been gathering dust.

    Graphic quality is incredible. I was playing Asgard's Wrath last week and it blew me away.



    The Quest 2 is really on its own when it comes to wireless. If you want wireless you gotta go with Facebook unfortunately.

    I have a fake account which I created years ago and it's been fine... but if you are going to create one, make sure you do it well in advance of buying the Quest 2, and add a few posts or friend some people. Make sure to add a photo from https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/

    You don't need to use it regularly... I just pop on once every 2 weeks or so to reply to my sister (who is my only "Friend" on it)

    Would I need a burner sim or is an email address enough? So all they are going to get out of me is my location and that I like to play games? Pretty much the same as Microsoft get out of me on the xbox.


  • #384
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Would I need a burner sim or is an email address enough? So all they are going to get out of me is my location and that I like to play games? Pretty much the same as Microsoft get out of me on the xbox.

    To be honest I'm not sure what's required when setting up a new Facebook account nowadays.

    Maybe post a question in the Quest superthread.


  • #385
    Dr Bob
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    Damien360 wrote: »
    Bought a HTC vive second hand for Christmas for the young lad. Unfortunately today we discovered that the left hand pad is not working right and looses tracking.

    I am wondering if anyone has a damaged system with one working track pad that I could buy off you. Or I’ll buy both track pads off you. Don’t need the headset or base stations.

    There is a few on adverts but I’ll try here first.

    If its the same issue I had ,its not too hard to fix.
    Theres a few videos out there
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jxzn8E2E1s


  • #386
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    What are the must play games now for oculus/PC, loving the quest 2 compared to cv1, such a versatile headset when you have a gaming PC as well.


  • #387
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    What are the must play games now for oculus/PC, loving the quest 2 compared to cv1, such a versatile headset when you have a gaming PC as well.

    Must play games native to Quest, or native to PC?


  • #388
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    mrcheez wrote: »
    Must play games native to Quest, or native to PC?

    either really, sidequest as well. Hyperdash is amazing btw


  • #389
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    either really, sidequest as well. Hyperdash is amazing btw

    I mean there are sh1tloads... kinda like asking the must-play games on Steam :)

    What sort of games are you into? What sort of VR experience are you looking for?


  • #390
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    mrcheez wrote: »
    I mean there are sh1tloads... kinda like asking the must-play games on Steam :)

    What sort of games are you into? What sort of VR experience are you looking for?

    well i love pavlov, hyper dash, beat saber, saint and sinners, vrchat with friends is good craic, asgards wrath, I guess i probably played most of the "must play games up until around 2019 so im guess has anything noteworthy come out bar half life.

    just tried creed rise to glory (holy hell thats a workout)

    two close friend of mine now have headsets so bonus points for fun multiplayer games.


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  • #391
    Dr Bob
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    well i love pavlov, hyper dash, beat saber, saint and sinners, vrchat with friends is good craic, asgards wrath, I guess i probably played most of the "must play games up until around 2019 so im guess has anything noteworthy come out bar half life.

    just tried creed rise to glory (holy hell thats a workout)

    two close friend of mine now have headsets so bonus points for fun multiplayer games.

    With the lockdown I've been spending a fair amount of time on Vrchat . Mostly good craic , but there's an awful influx of kids at the moment due to the quest being cheap enough to be a Christmas present , and also a youtuber unleashing a load of his squeaker fans at it . They're not too hard to block or avoid .


  • #392
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    well i love pavlov, hyper dash, beat saber, saint and sinners, vrchat with friends is good craic, asgards wrath, I guess i probably played most of the "must play games up until around 2019 so im guess has anything noteworthy come out bar half life.

    just tried creed rise to glory (holy hell thats a workout)

    two close friend of mine now have headsets so bonus points for fun multiplayer games.

    Path of the Warrior would be good fun for multiplayer.

    If you want a real workout check out Thrill of the Fight

    Eleven is another multiplayer game that is amazing in immersiveness.

    In Death is a must-have title... Lone Echo would be another "wow" moment for PCVR

    Then you obviously have the excellent Dr Beef Sidequest games like Doom 3 and Half Life / Return to Castle Wolfenstein (you need the Steam version of all these games to play them on your Quest)

    Loads more... I'll let others jump in ;)


  • #393
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Dr Bob wrote: »
    With the lockdown I've been spending a fair amount of time on Vrchat . Mostly good craic , but there's an awful influx of kids at the moment due to the quest being cheap enough to be a Christmas present , and also a youtuber unleashing a load of his squeaker fans at it . They're not too hard to block or avoid .

    yeah those annoying kids are in everything tbf, impossible to avoid them. A good sign of the health of the vr industry actually.


  • #394
    Doge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,059 ✭✭✭Doge


    Just spotted this ad on Facebook and I wonder if these would work with VR lenses?

    http://www.zerofog.ie

    Any guinea pigs want to risk ruining their lensses with them for us? ;)


  • #395
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Doge wrote: »
    Just spotted this ad on Facebook and I wonder if these would work with VR lenses?

    http://www.zerofog.ie

    Any guinea pigs want to risk ruining their lensses with them for us? ;)

    Would be handy for those trill of the fight sessions alright :pac:


  • #396
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,215 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    So the Quest 2 is the way to go for a VR headset these days, right?

    Had the Rift a few years ago, and loved it, but wasn't enough to keep me interested at the time. Was thinking of picking one up again soon. PC should still be good for most of the games, though i may need a GPU upgrade at some stage (assuming we can ever buy them again).


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  • #397
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    Kiith wrote: »
    So the Quest 2 is the way to go for a VR headset these days, right?

    Had the Rift a few years ago, and loved it, but wasn't enough to keep me interested at the time. Was thinking of picking one up again soon. PC should still be good for most of the games, though i may need a GPU upgrade at some stage (assuming we can ever buy them again).

    Yeah it's got the advantage of the wireless capability and screen clarity, plus low price, just be aware of the Facebook requirement.


  • #398
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,215 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Yeah, don't mind the Facebook stuff, or i didn't when i had the original one. You can still ignore the vast majority of it, right?


  • #399
    Mickeroo
    Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,396 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Kiith wrote: »
    Yeah, don't mind the Facebook stuff, or i didn't when i had the original one. You can still ignore the vast majority of it, right?

    You wouldn't know it was a facebook account but for the login screen tbh. Just turn off all the sharing and that and it's grand.


  • #400
    mrcheez
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,870 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez




    New Half Life Alyx mod set in the Bioshock universe... looks incredible!


  • #401
    BlitzKrieg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    I decided to upgrade and picked up the hp reverb based on how much it's been praised and how supposedly it works really well with flight sims like IL2


    ooooh boy I might return it.

    Between how uncomfortable it is with glasses (never really had a problem with my glasses and my vive) the sheer horror that is windows mixed reality interface and how even though I meet the recommended specs the struggle the headset has.

    :(

    very disappointing, will try again in a bit but my forehead hurts from the headset pushing my glasses into my skull.


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