Eurovision 2018

Panrich · 11-05-2018 10:26am

TomSweeney wrote: »

Israel have it won.

She lists some of the PC "progressive" points ..
Fat CHECK
Ugly CHECK
#MeToo spokesperson !! CHECK

I heard some of her song ... "Don't use me as a toy...."

You're all right there love, don't worry ...

But we trump that with our two lads dancing.

RobertKK · 11-05-2018 10:32am

I like the French entry this year, they will do well.

TomSweeney · 11-05-2018 10:50am

Its actuall a good song by Ireland this year, but this isn't a music competition anymore, still I do enjoy the voting !

correction · 11-05-2018 11:47am

Getting quite excited now with things looking better for us. I liked the song from the off but didn't think it'd stand out enough on the night to qualify but Ryan did a great job and was delighted we got through. Had set my expectations at being thrilled if we don't come last but may see a top half finish now, don't want to tempt faith and hope for any more than that now.

CeilingFly · 11-05-2018 11:54am

TomSweeney wrote: »

Israel have it won.

She lists some of the PC "progressive" points ..
Fat CHECK
Ugly CHECK
#MeToo spokesperson !! CHECK

I heard some of her song ... "Don't use me as a toy...."

You're all right there love, don't worry ...

Gay vote? - Nope, hence not a chance

Panrich wrote: »

But we trump that with our two lads dancing.

Gay vote? - Yes, hence a good chance

exaisle · 11-05-2018 12:00pm

If we had Ryan Moore instead of Ryan Oshaughnessy we'd win by a short head...

6th fav now...must be serious money being bet on the Irish entry...

11-05-2018 12:29pm

Not sure why Lithuania are still so high in the betting. Their draw is bad, and it indicates that they weren't that popular in the semi. The producers always make sure the most popular songs get a decent draw.

exaisle · 11-05-2018 12:41pm

Flying Fox wrote: »

Not sure why Lithuania are still so high in the betting. Their draw is bad, and it indicates that they weren't that popular in the semi. The producers always make sure the most popular songs get a decent draw.

Betting odds are ultimately driven by the market....

Mollyb60 · 11-05-2018 12:54pm

After the mention of them last night in the show, I went and bought some pastel de nata today for my party tomorrow. Holy mother of god they are amazing.

yerwanthere123 · 11-05-2018 12:56pm

Ireland up to 6th favourite now! I think the market is overreacting a bit but heck I'll take it. So nice to consider Ireland in these kind of conversations after years of Louis Walsh inflicted misery. As to how we'll do, I now think we'll get comfortable top ten, anything beyond that is a bonus.

yerwanthere123 · 11-05-2018 1:09pm

These pictures from last night after Russia's NQ broke my heart a little

https://twitter.com/tayannasus/status/994717559328043008

gmisk · 11-05-2018 1:13pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

These pictures from last night after Russia's NQ broke my heart a little

https://twitter.com/tayannasus/status/994717559328043008

Sad...but the song and performance were shocking.

EPAndlee · 11-05-2018 1:16pm

Mollyb60 wrote: »

After the mention of them last night in the show, I went and bought some pastel de nata today for my party tomorrow. Holy mother of god they are amazing.

Is it a eurovision party? Why didn't you invite everyone from this thread

yerwanthere123 · 11-05-2018 1:18pm

gmisk wrote: »

Sad...but the song and performance were shocking.

Oh of course, it had to NQ. But I can't help but really feel for her. As some of the comments on that Tweet say, she was basically used as a political pawn last year, and to now become Russia's first ever NQ after all that. Yeah, I feel for her.

Mollyb60 · 11-05-2018 1:23pm

EPAndlee wrote: »

Is it a eurovision party? Why didn't you invite everyone from this thread

Ah it's just ourselves and a few other Euronuts getting together to watch it. If people want to trek up to Belfast for it I might save a tart or 2.

CeilingFly · 11-05-2018 1:29pm

Interesting that Irish odds are shortening substantially. Now 3rd fav with some @ 8/1 & 10/1 and even down to 12/1 on some exchanges which give the better indication.

edit - exchanges now at 8/1, some bookies at 6/1

Question now is Will it be in the Point or the RDS next year?

Rjd2 · 11-05-2018 1:31pm

CeilingFly wrote: »

Interesting that Irish odds are shortening substantially. Now 3rd fav with some @ 8/1 & 10/1 and even down to 12/1 on some exchanges which give the better indication

what the hell is going on?

yerwanthere123 · 11-05-2018 1:38pm

CeilingFly wrote: »

Interesting that Irish odds are shortening substantially. Now 3rd fav with some @ 8/1 & 10/1 and even down to 12/1 on some exchanges which give the better indication.

edit - exchanges now at 8/1, some bookies at 6/1

Question now is Will it be in the Point or the RDS next year?

Millstreet please!

CeilingFly · 11-05-2018 1:40pm

https://www.oddschecker.com/tv/eurovision/winner

Obviously money is being placed by people. Momentum can build and work in your favour with the public vote as suddenly all the media attention is on you.

Possibly looking at being second fav by tomorrow.

yerwanthere123 · 11-05-2018 1:45pm

Live shot from Rte HQ if Ireland do the unthinkable tomorrow night

AndyBoBandy · 11-05-2018 1:51pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Live shot from Rte HQ if Ireland do the unthinkable tomorrow night

Dee Forbes will be out to each and every door in Ireland with a pitch fork demanding an extra €5er per house on top of your TV Licence!!

Panrich · 11-05-2018 1:52pm

CeilingFly wrote: »

https://www.oddschecker.com/tv/eurovision/winner

Obviously money is being placed by people. Momentum can build and work in your favour with the public vote as suddenly all the media attention is on you.

Possibly looking at being second fav by tomorrow.

I reckon if it comes in a bit more, I'll start to lay this on the exchanges. At the end of the day, gay vote or no, we surely won't pick up enough eastern bloc votes to win.

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-05-2018 1:54pm

CeilingFly wrote: »

Interesting that Irish odds are shortening substantially. Now 3rd fav with some @ 8/1 & 10/1 and even down to 12/1 on some exchanges which give the better indication.

edit - exchanges now at 8/1, some bookies at 6/1

Question now is Will it be in the Point or the RDS next year?

Best price with any (reputable) bookie would appear still to be @17. Exchanges have very high flucuation and small windows. Even then, the (J-4) price position is a shared price, with the likes of Germany & Lithu.

Another important factor is the big players haven't had any exposure as of yet, once France/Spain/Italy etc get some exposure, it will drift out all others televised from SF1/2.

The Chinese thing is spurring the current run, but still realisitcally would do very well to finish up at 5/6th.

CeilingFly · 11-05-2018 1:56pm

Panrich wrote: »

I reckon if it comes in a bit more, I'll start to lay this on the exchanges. At the end of the day, gay vote or no, we surely won't pick up enough eastern bloc votes to win.

That eastern bloc thing is long long long gone.

With 43 countries voting, any benefit of neighbouring votes such as UK/Ireland is extremely small.

yerwanthere123 · 11-05-2018 1:57pm

Panrich wrote: »

I reckon if it comes in a bit more, I'll start to lay this on the exchanges. At the end of the day, gay vote or no, we surely won't pick up enough eastern bloc votes to win.

Well we should be fine with the televote, it's Eastern European juries who'd vote us down. But if the song is good enough (which I don't truly believe Ryan's is) then we'd still be able to win. The EE juries didn't stop Austria winning.

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-05-2018 2:13pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Well we should be fine with the televote, it's Eastern European juries who'd vote us down. But if the song is good enough (which I don't truly believe Ryan's is) then we'd still be able to win. The EE juries didn't stop Austria winning.

Austria has plenty of neighbours of it's own to help them along.

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-05-2018 2:24pm

CeilingFly wrote: »

Interesting that Irish odds are shortening substantially. Now 3rd fav with some @ 8/1 & 10/1 and even down to 12/1 on some exchanges which give the better indication.

edit - exchanges now at 8/1, some bookies at 6/1

Question now is Will it be in the Point or the RDS next year?

Correction to previous note, you're right @8.5 stright average price.
3rd place, and still shortening...

hollie fook.

gmisk · 11-05-2018 2:26pm

This has gotta be the china ban thing?
Right?

I honestly was shocked it even qualified for the final.

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-05-2018 2:36pm

Welcome to the Eurovision, the political song protest contest.

Prices (decimal odds) correct as of 2pm Friday, subject to change (±).

11-05-2018 2:43pm

It's moreso the draw I think, it's the only slow song in the entire second half. And third from the end is a very good position to be in. The performance seems to connect with people. I do think Top 3 is overly optimistic but this is a really unpredictable year.

Try_harder · 11-05-2018 3:08pm

Top 10 maybe

goose2005 · 11-05-2018 3:41pm

Checkmate19 wrote: »

Shocked its second fav. But stuff like this has gone well in the past.

The Eurovision fan club has picked the wrong song 4 years in a row

Mahony0509 · 11-05-2018 3:59pm

Top 3 with the bookies. 9th when I woke up this morning. Some turn of events.

murpho999 · 11-05-2018 4:25pm

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Well we should be fine with the televote, it's Eastern European juries who'd vote us down. But if the song is good enough (which I don't truly believe Ryan's is) then we'd still be able to win. The EE juries didn't stop Austria winning.

This Eastern European thing is a myth.

Last few winners have been:

2017 Portugal
2016 Ukraine
2015 Sweden
2014 Austria
2013 Denmark
2012 Sweden
2011 Azerbaijan
2010 Germany

So last 8 years have seen only 2 East European countries win.

It nearly always come down to the song and the performance.

murpho999 · 11-05-2018 4:43pm

Mahony0509 wrote: »

Top 3 with the bookies. 9th when I woke up this morning. Some turn of events.

Means nothing. Just means Irish people are backing it.

gmisk · 11-05-2018 4:45pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Means nothing. Just means Irish people are backing it.

It is pretty similar on foreign sites though.

Lord TSC · 11-05-2018 4:46pm

murpho999 wrote: »

Means nothing. Just means Irish people are backing it.

gmisk wrote: »

It is pretty similar on foreign sites though.

Yeah, I was dismissing it originally when I heard, thinking it was just PP, but no, EVERY betting website has moved us into third position now.

Try_harder · 11-05-2018 5:10pm

There is no hope of us coming top 3! Off to Jury Final tonight will revert back with my findings!

gmisk · 11-05-2018 5:14pm

Try_harder wrote: »

There is no hope of us coming top 3! Off to Jury Final tonight will revert back with my findings!

I really doubt top 3 too.....I think top 10 would be terrific fingers crossed.

exaisle · 11-05-2018 5:19pm

gmisk wrote: »

I really doubt top 3 too.....I think top 10 would be terrific fingers crossed.

I'd be much more optimistic...its a catchy tune..the hook /chorus happens very early and gets repeated often making it easy to remember. That's ignoring the staging which appears to have struck the right chord...pun intended..

Mahony0509 · 11-05-2018 5:22pm

https://twitter.com/wiwibloggs/status/994968232275701760

Try_harder · 11-05-2018 5:28pm

Mahony0509 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/wiwibloggs/status/994968232275701760

We fake won!!!

Welsh Megaman · 11-05-2018 5:32pm

Could Ireland...dare I say...win it? :O

Lord TSC · 11-05-2018 5:44pm

What do they mean by "fake"? Who were those judges?

leahyl · 11-05-2018 5:47pm

Eeek I’m actually getting excited now!

Galwayguy35 · 11-05-2018 6:12pm

What do you good people think of the UK entry?

Seems kinda bland to me, you'd think in a country of over 60 million that they would be able to come up with a good song.

Birdie Num Num · 11-05-2018 6:14pm

Welsh Megaman wrote: »

Could Ireland...dare I say...win it? :O

If he wears a #metoo TShirt he'll romp home.

11-05-2018 6:31pm

Lord TSC wrote: »

What do they mean by "fake"? Who were those judges?

It's just testing the links to the various studios, scoreboard, etc. There weren't any judges, the computer just randomly assigns the scores.

thelad95 · 11-05-2018 6:52pm

Part of me would think it would be something of a hollow victory if we won, the staging is definitely what got us through in the semi final, if it had just been Ryan on his own, we wouldn’t have gotten through.

Are the exact results of the semi finals available anywhere?

An tUasal C · 11-05-2018 6:57pm

thelad95 wrote: »

Part of me would think it would be something of a hollow victory if we won, the staging is definitely what got us through in the semi final, if it had just been Ryan on his own, we wouldn’t have gotten through.

Are the exact results of the semi finals available anywhere?

No, not until the final is over.

Eurovision 2018

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