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Denny Meat Free Sausages, how healthy are they?

  • 29-09-2020 10:44am
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭


    Also have they many calories? And much of a non meat eater would need in terms of nutrition?
    Thanks
    S


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Each sausage is 57 calories or so. Tbh nobody should be getting nutrition from a sausage, meat or not, as a primary source. They are really delicious though - I get them all the time. Things like legumes, veg etc are where your nutrition comes from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭DoozerT6


    I'm actually going to cook up a pack to have for dinner this evening (and freeze some for later), although I will cook up some sort of a beany/chickpea/tomato/rice base to have them with, as opposed to lashing them between two cuts of Brennans bread with some ketchup (which I have also been known to do :D )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 186 ✭✭KennisWhale


    They're the best sausages out there right now. Linda's are too dry and those Tofoo ones are too much like Tofu. There's another brand in Tesco called Eden I think but they aren't as good.

    In Germany, there is a company called Rugenwalder Muhle which was (is) a huge meat company going back 180 years, launched meat substitutes in recent years. The sausages they do are hands down the best I've ever had, the first time I tried them I thought I accidentally bought the meat ones; fatty, salty and a bit greasy - they were amazing in a lovely crusty German roll. Would highly recommend them.

    https://www.ruegenwalder.de/en/products/vegetarian-bratwurst-sausage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Just had these this morning for the first time, on the recommendation of this thread. I usually buy Quorn. OMG they're amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Useful.Idiot


    They're great alright, very moreish. Was almost addicted to them there at one stage over summer; had a full pack of them most days of the week haha. I treat them like a treat now. They have that sticky oily-ness that real sausages have, which can be a pro or a con depending.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭auspicious


    I had four of them between some 'buttered' brown hovis slices with red sauce the last couple of nights. Very satisfying.

    I like the Birds eye green cuisine too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,475 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    If ever you felt like eating real pork sausages, have a read of this

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/nov/16/shocking-footage-of-severely-injured-pigs-on-spanish-farms-released

    God it breaks my heart. 3.5 million slaughtered in factory farms every year in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    If ever you felt like eating real pork sausages, have a read of this

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/nov/16/shocking-footage-of-severely-injured-pigs-on-spanish-farms-released

    God it breaks my heart. 3.5 million slaughtered in factory farms every year in Ireland.

    Thankfully producers like that story in Spain do not represent all producers ime.

    Personally I would support free range production. I've reared my own pigs (not for sale) and imo its not hard to source free-range products if someone wants to. I know there are those who dont eat pork as well and that's fine as well.

    That said In Ireland - there is a whole raft of codes of Practice for the welfare and legislation covering all aspects of rearing etc. The sector is also heavily inspected and afaik has onerous biosecurity requirements. I do think there is place for improvements and changes for certain.

    Where there are unscrupulous individuals these need to be severely with but not used as a means to tar and feather everyone with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    If ever you felt like eating real pork sausages, have a read of this

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/nov/16/shocking-footage-of-severely-injured-pigs-on-spanish-farms-released

    God it breaks my heart. 3.5 million slaughtered in factory farms every year in Ireland.

    That’s horrendous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,475 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Tilikum17 wrote: »
    That’s horrendous.

    Yup and conditions are pretty much the same all over Europe. They've dont similar exposés in Denmark and northern ireland.
    Id start a thread on it but i just dont have the energy for the influx of farmers etc that would dive in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,665 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Yup and conditions are pretty much the same all over Europe. They've dont similar exposés in Denmark and northern ireland.
    Id start a thread on it but i just dont have the energy for the influx of farmers etc that would dive in.

    If you have first hand experience or strong, truthful evidence of pigs being mistreated, I urge you to act on it.
    A pig (or any animal for that matter) that isn't content and thriving is of no benefit to anyone, let alone the animal itself.

    Contrary to your statement above stating that "conditions are pretty much the same all over Europe"
    I would regularly be in contact with a family run piggery through my work, I have to say, the standards are exceptional, to see pigs playing with giant footballs would bring a smile to anyones face. They are beautiful animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    If ever you felt like eating real pork sausages, have a read of this

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/nov/16/shocking-footage-of-severely-injured-pigs-on-spanish-farms-released

    God it breaks my heart. 3.5 million slaughtered in factory farms every year in Ireland.

    Absolutely horrendous. Glad I pay no part to that industry

    Deny meat free sausages are lovely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,475 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    The Iceland no bull ones aren't great, pretty much the same as the Linda Mc ones. Their burgers are good though.
    My local tesco now has beyond burgers, mad prices though, but I might treat myself at the weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    The Iceland no bull ones aren't great, pretty much the same as the Linda Mc ones. Their burgers are good though.

    Yeah fully agree. I had their burger about 2 years ago and at the time I thought it was the best one out there. Very disappointed with their other product's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭AssetBacked2


    If you have first hand experience or strong, truthful evidence of pigs being mistreated, I urge you to act on it.
    A pig (or any animal for that matter) that isn't content and thriving is of no benefit to anyone, let alone the animal itself.

    Contrary to your statement above stating that "conditions are pretty much the same all over Europe"
    I would regularly be in contact with a family run piggery through my work, I have to say, the standards are exceptional, to see pigs playing with giant footballs would bring a smile to anyones face. They are beautiful animals.

    So why slaughter them then if they are so beautiful? They are sentient and wonderful, even intelligent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    https://www.denny.ie/food/meat-free-range/
    Water, Rehydrated Textured SOYA and WHEAT Protein (16%) (Water, SOYA Protein, WHEAT Protein, Salt, SOYA Bean Oil, Natural Flavouring), Rusk (WHEAT), Coconut Oil, SOYA Protein Concentrate (4%), WHEAT Starch, Chicory Root Fibre, Natural Flavourings, Stabiliser: Methyl cellulose; Salt, Yeast Extract, Sodium Alginate, Colouring Foods: Beetroot, Safflower; Spice Extracts: Black Pepper, Ginger, Nutmeg; Herbs, Spices, Flavouring.
    Is SOYA here the same a soy? When not write soy?


    I am trying to mix more veggie options into the family diet and these sausages could be a contender.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    So why slaughter them then if they are so beautiful? They are sentient and wonderful, even intelligent.

    Because I guess you certainly dont have to hate something to eat. And it remains humans are omnivores who eat a wide range of foods. Some choose not to eat meat etc and that's fine too

    That said I don't know anyone who claims farmed animals are not sentient. And yes some may indeed look beautiful, others maybe not so much. Even prehistoric hunters apparently appreciated the beauty of the wild animals they hunted when they painted them on their cave walls.

    But what's for sure is that farmed animals are fed, looked after and treated for illnesses and kept safe from other dangers. Do they die? Yes they do. They are slaughtered in a way which is designed to minimise any suffering by being stunned First etc.

    Personally I believe all such systems can improved on and anyone not adhering to welfare and legislation should be dealt with maximum penalties imo.

    Anyway back on topiic I reckon this thread has gone way off a simple discussion about plant based sausages. Haven't tried them myself tbh. Though interesting to read the feedback on them as a product.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    biko wrote: »
    https://www.denny.ie/food/meat-free-range/

    Is SOYA here the same a soy? When not write soy?


    .

    It can be referred to as both.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Mod note: Agreed, this thread is veering wildly off-topic. Please start a new thread if you wish to continue debating animal welfare practices rather than continuing to discuss on this one, thanks.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The Iceland no bull ones aren't great, pretty much the same as the Linda Mc ones. Their burgers are good though.
    My local tesco now has beyond burgers, mad prices though, but I might treat myself at the weekend.

    Have gotten the Beyond ones in Tesco a few times. Yup, very nice even though they are a bit expensive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Unearthly wrote: »
    It can be referred to as both.
    Google kept asking if I meant "soy" when I googled it so I will assume it's some marketing ploy.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It’s just fantastic to see these cruelty free sausages receiving such great reviews.

    There’ll soon be more cruelty free sausages than not.

    Would really like a chance to try these but will have to wait. I can’t imagine they are any less healthy than the alternative.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    Mod note:

    klopparama, your repeated use of "cruelty free" as a description of meat free products across threads this morning has been noted. Although it may be your personal opinion, it is extremely provocative and if you persist it will be seen as trolling which is unacceptable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,475 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Veganism is built on the basis that all meat produced is cruelty. If anyone mentioning this has their posts reported by farmers I don't see the point of this forum any more. "Cruelty free" is not provocative on a vegan forum.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    Veganism is built on the basis that all meat produced is cruelty. If anyone mentioning this has their posts reported by farmers I don't see the point of this forum any more. "Cruelty free" is not provocative on a vegan forum.

    I take your point, and discussion of animal cruelty is absolutely acceptable. Not in this thread though, where there has already been a Mod warning about veering off-topic into the realm of animal welfare. This thread is about the nutritional value of Denny meat free sausages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,475 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I take your point, and discussion of animal cruelty is absolutely acceptable. Not in this thread though, where there has already been a Mod warning about veering off-topic into the realm of animal welfare. This thread is about the nutritional value of Denny meat free sausages.

    Fair enough, but they're not popular because of their nutritional value which wouldn't amount to much, they are popular because you don't have to support the horrific factory farming of pigs.
    I shall desist, have a nice day.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    Fair enough, but they're not popular because of their nutritional value which wouldn't amount to much, they are popular because you don't have to support the horrific factory farming of pigs.
    I shall desist, have a nice day.

    Feel free to start a thread on the subject, but this thread IS about whether or not the sausages are healthy, and hopefully now it will be able to get back on topic.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Mod Note: All we're asking is that you all help us to help you make this a pleasant space for all posters, and one way in which we're asking people to do that is by using non-inflammatory language. I appreciate that a term like "cruelty free" is not inflammatory to many vegans, but it is for a lot of other people. This is not an issue specific to veg*nism either, plenty of forums on the site have a protected space for posters while maintaining rules around the discussion.

    If you'd like to discuss it further, please PM one of the moderators or start a new discussion thread, cheers.

    /edit: oops, cross-posted with you Dizzy, sorry!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Mod note: off-topic posts that ignored the clear moderator instruction in my last post have been deleted. Any more on this thread will result in an immediate ban from the forum.

    If you would like to discuss language use, moderation or any other issue, start a new thread, don’t drag existing threads off-topic.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    biko wrote: »
    Google kept asking if I meant "soy" when I googled it so I will assume it's some marketing ploy.

    In Ireland it used to always be soya. As in soya sauce. Soy sauce was the American way.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭65535


    As for the Original Question: Denny Meat Free Sausages, how healthy are they?

    I think they are fabulous, mix with vegan gravy and there is little to no difference to 'ordinary' sausages.

    As for 'how healthy they are' - Any food eaten in moderation is OK but if too often then you are on a 'mono diet'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Tilikum17


    About to cook these for by breakfast. Onions, mushrooms and rocket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    65535 wrote: »
    As for the Original Question: Denny Meat Free Sausages, how healthy are they?

    I think they are fabulous, mix with vegan gravy and there is little to no difference to 'ordinary' sausages.

    As for 'how healthy they are' - Any food eaten in moderation is OK but if too often then you are on a 'mono diet'

    Where do you get the vegan gravy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Thanks for all the posts on here.

    Had some yesterday for breakfast and they are indeed the most sausage like I've had. Bit more spice in there than I'm used to in a sausage, which is understandable given their provenance.

    Texture was all important though, and it has that.

    Making a jambalaya today and the rest will be going into that. They strike me as a great sausage to soak up flavour. So we'll see how that goes

    Anyway, thanks again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Yeah was thinking they be nice in a sausage casserole with apple and cider and a big plate of mash! Might make that for dins today


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 229 ✭✭Bigbooty


    If I'm adding vegan sausages to things I cook them separately and add them in at the end. They don't really do too well stewing and tend to turn to mush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Bigbooty wrote: »
    If I'm adding vegan sausages to things I cook them separately and add them in at the end. They don't really do too well stewing and tend to turn to mush.

    Exactly how they were put in. They were air fried first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭silent_spark


    anewme wrote: »
    Yeah was thinking they be nice in a sausage casserole with apple and cider and a big plate of mash! Might make that for dins today

    That sounds really, really good! Just googled a few recipes, do you have one you use? Planning to experiment next weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,020 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    That sounds really, really good! Just googled a few recipes, do you have one you use? Planning to experiment next weekend.

    Will dig it out and post here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    anewme wrote: »
    Where do you get the vegan gravy.

    Gravy can be a tough one to figure as most of them label it vegetarian but they can be suitable for vegans.

    I use this one

    https://veganic.ie/product/organic-gravy-powder-marigold/


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Bisto’s granules ingredients are vegan.

    I medium slice an onion and fry it off for a bit and then add in some bistro gravy (already mixed per instructions in a jug) and let it thicken to my preference.

    I’m not sure if all the Bisto granules are vegan but defo the original and possibly the beef one. So that would leave the chicken one I’m not sure about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    The Lidl and Aldi granules are vegan. I think the chicken one has animal stock but the others are fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭ollaetta


    Just had these this morning for the first time, on the recommendation of this thread. I usually buy Quorn. OMG they're amazing.

    Likewise. Picked them up based on the recommendations and even my carniverous other half agreed that they are very good indeed.


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