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Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion : 2019 and Winter 2020

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭Scrabbel


    No mention of thunder whatsoever all mention of thunderstorms has been removed.

    “Showery rain will continue to extend northwards this evening and early tonight with a few thundery downpours following as the rain clears. Areas of mist and fog will develop as easterly breezes fall mostly light. A humid night with lowest temperatures of 10 to 14 degrees.”

    Looks just like normal Irish weather more cloud and light rain.

    Satellite pic shows absolutely nothing to be excited about. Not as much as a spark on sat24.


    It says thundery downpours in the section you quote? Mind you, just “a few”, but there all the same,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Scrabbel wrote: »
    It says thundery downpours in the section you quote? Mind you, just “a few”, but there all the same,

    From my experience of Irish weather-watching, 'thundery downpours' just means bigger raindrops...I'm not getting over-excited for today or this evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,229 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    No mention of thunder whatsoever all mention of thunderstorms has been removed.

    “Showery rain will continue to extend northwards this evening and early tonight with a few thundery downpours following as the rain clears. Areas of mist and fog will develop as easterly breezes fall mostly light. A humid night with lowest temperatures of 10 to 14 degrees.”

    Looks just like normal Irish weather more cloud and light rain.

    Satellite pic shows absolutely nothing to be excited about. Not as much as a spark on sat24.

    See highlighted section.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    dear lord,people are so misinformed,there was never any forecast for the violent thunderstorms with 'orange skies' (cringe) forecast for sunday, more thundery rain,actual thunderstorms are possible as the week progresses as the humidity instability and warmth increases in the atmosphere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Tonights thunder risk (which isnt a low risk) is brought about by the advection of warm and humid air chasing the rain band

    The problem with social media now (inc boards) versus the 1980s is that theres too much waiting and too much commentary
    There should be a lot of thunder around in the next week
    It could be anywhere
    Convergence storms in the inland southeast
    Pulse storms anywhere/heavy showers
    French/Celtic sea/Welsh imports
    Pure heat and humidity localised storms in the west later in the week that could be intense

    None of this has happened yet
    It's just that its likely
    posts going on about it's not going to happen etc are stupid in my opinion
    Just Enjoy the ride instead, you could have lots of excitement ahead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    what do you reckon blanket or fork lightning tonight?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭MidMan25


    Ull always get the usual suspects going against the grain to try and wind up others.


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dear lord,people are so misinformed,there was never any forecast for the violent thunderstorms with 'orange skies' (cringe) forecast for sunday, more thundery rain,actual thunderstorms are possible as the week progresses as the humidity instability and warmth increases in the atmosphere.

    I never mentioned violent thunderstorms but there was reference to thunderstorms in yesterday’s forecast and again last night after the news.

    Why do you cringe when you read orange skies ? This is exactly what I would have observed back when we used to have actual thunderstorms not few flashes once every 5-10 mins and a few rumbles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Certainly not looking as decent as it was a couple of days ago. Annoyingly it looks like the UK is going to hog it all.

    For tonight though I certainly wouldn’t rule out anything especially for some sparks up through the Irish Sea with the increase of the Theta W airmass.
    So those on the SE and E Coasts may be able to see some flashes

    Keeping an eye on maybe something more organized coming out of SW Eng/ S Wales later in the night and making its way across the Irish Sea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    scatterd thunderstorms tonight and tomorrow,some very heavy -Michelle Dillion farming forecast

    28 degrees in the midwest end of the week.

    The pessimism on here is unreal.Its as if people want the most violent thunderstorm directly over their house with the highest max otherwise the whole thing is just irrelevant.A bit of balance and rationality.The week will be warm/very warm/hot,the nights muggy and humid for a large majority of the country,some people will experience thunderstorms,some wont.Try and savour it.

    All models apart from GFS now agree it will be warming up significantly as next week progresses.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup



    The pessimism on here is unreal.Its as if people want the most violent thunderstorm directly over their house with the highest max otherwise the whole thing is just irrelevant.A bit of balance and rationality.

    well fek it! there's nothing else to look forward to is there?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    ECM has backed off thunderstorm activity tonight but ICON Hi Res has storms in the SW/ S from around 19.00 moving Northwards at the back edge of the front with a clearance behind . I think if we do have storms they will be elevated . Handy model has picked up stuff in the past where others have not. WRF-NMM also showing potential. Certainly tomorrow looks having way more , potentially lively. Will see

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Met office have warnings in place for heavy rain and thunderstorms for Northern Ireland on Monday

    https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1142744328323895296


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭MidMan25


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    Ominous skies over Brandon Bay, Co. Kerry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Nice and simple watch area IMO for tonight. All coastal counties of Leinster. No point trying to pin down a more localised area with the such a variation of NWM ouput. Good luck to anyone heading out for it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    It is looking rather a disappointing evening this evening for thunder fans. No lightening in our part of the world according to lightningmaps.org. Loads in Eastern Europe and into Russia.


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Met eireann have thunderstorm forecast back for Tomorrow afternoon, humid and up to 22 deg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Little snowy old me


    Very disappointing that the spell of heavy rain this evening produced no lightning.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,963 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Very disappointing that the spell of heavy rain this evening produced no lightning.

    I didn't think we'd get much if anything, warm air hasn't arrived yet, currently quite cool under that rain and cloud, warmth doesn't arrive till tomorrow.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    For anyone needing some thunder.. Great light show from the US last night. The stream stopped at 12.20am as the cam took a direct hit! You can rewind it a few hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIcaNyDuRT0&feature=youtu.be


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,648 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Sparks near wales


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,229 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Sparks near wales

    Could be floating up along the east coast later!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Could be floating up along the east coast later!

    Hopefully to float a little inland up the east
    Up all night on duty hoping to see something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭s8n


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Sparks near wales

    Sparks ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    s8n wrote: »
    Sparks ??

    Detected lightning strikes on the radar.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭pad199207


    13mm in Kildare with fairly heavy rain still falling.
    Think orographic lift playing it’s part over the mtns


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    pad199207 wrote: »
    13mm in Kildare with fairly heavy rain still falling.
    Think orographic lift playing it’s part over the mtns

    Met earann may have pulled the rain warning too early maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Today is the only chance of Thunder according to ME this morning, from tomorrow it's fine dry weather back to rain at the weekend but no mention of Thunder for this week only today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭s8n


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Detected lightning strikes on the radar.

    Why not call it lightning then ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,229 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    s8n wrote: »
    Why not call it lightning then ??

    It's widely known terminology here, and not hard to figure out either. If we only had one way of saying everything we'd be awful boring, now why do you wish to change the terminology we use on the weather forum?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,229 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Today is the only chance of Thunder according to ME this morning, from tomorrow it's fine dry weather back to rain at the weekend but no mention of Thunder for this week only today

    I noticed that but it seems like a very basic forecast, so perhaps it's omitted instead of non-existant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    s8n wrote:
    Why not call it lightning then ??

    Pedantic alert


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    I'm still holding out some hope for thunderstorms between today and next Friday.

    I've often noticed over the years that some of the best thunderstorms were somewhat unexpected and as they're so hard to forecast with much certainly, we may have a few surprises over the next few days.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Complete bust yesterday, lets see what today brings.

    estofex off to a good start.

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    Storm Forecast
    Valid: Mon 24 Jun 2019 06:00 to Tue 25 Jun 2019 06:00 UTC
    Issued: Mon 24 Jun 2019 03:02
    Forecaster: VAN DER VELDE

    A level 1 and 2 were issued across western France and southern UK mainly for severe wind gust, large hail and tornado chances, and in Ireland for spout-type tornadoes.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Plenty of CAPE available from the most current guidance. ECM showing best potential in the SE and E and later midlands perhaps.

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  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Met eireann radar showing showers starting to form in the south/ south east.

    It’s certainly a lot more humid today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Decent shower going up over City Centre, will it spark?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Dad in Grand Canal Street he’s never seen anything like the rain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Shower gone up over the Comer Pleatau. Temps just to the northwest of it here in South Laois nudging 20c. Dewpoints are a juicy 16.1c. The skies in Laois are fairly congested.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Heres the towers just literally growing like mad inland as seen from Arklow

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Recent strike in SE County Down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭ciaran76


    Rain in Swords pretty heavy now. Thunder also.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,963 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    very gloomy morning here at Dunshaughlin, solid slate grey skies and damp, hopefully it will brighten up later. Feeling mild with a temperature of 16C.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Distant thunder at Dublin Airport just now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Strikes in N Dublin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    New tower building north of Arklow
    Pic may be sideways sorry
    But soon in and you see trademark sharp edges and dark contours that are a sign of thunder to come


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,916 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Didn't take long for that small cell to go active as it passed over Dublin City. Decent marker for the rest of the day.

    It's a question of how much the onshore wind element may move development further inland away from the coast.

    Decent start though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,229 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Didn't expect strikes this early!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭koutoubia


    just witnessed a strike straight ahead of me somewhere in the direction of Naul, Co Dublin. Be surprised if it didnt make land.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    The current rainfall radar map on met.ie shows little pockets of red (ie 12-20 mm per hour of rain) in North County Dublin so there is probably some very heavy localized downpours there right now.


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