Have you ever met an actual Psychopath?

the purple tin · 23-09-2020 9:50am

Risk Committee wrote: »

I believe it's definition is related to a lack of empathy for other people.

Is it psycopaths or sociopaths that love animals?
Remember Tony Soprano and the ducklings?

corner of hells · 23-09-2020 9:52am

CrankyHaus wrote: »

The term Psychopath is used far too freely, on this thread or elsewhere. Pics of them dancing in the skin of their victims or GTFO*.

* - A professional diagnosis may also be valid. Your mean boss who made you work late won't cut it.

My dog is chasing his tail this morning, does that make him one , I've spent the last five minutes watching him , hes so easier amused ....... as am I.

corner of hells · 23-09-2020 9:53am

the purple tin wrote: »

Is it psycopaths or sociopaths that love animals?
Remember Tony Soprano and the ducklings?

Vets ?

Hector Savage · 23-09-2020 9:54am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I think i have always known....but i am only telling about the people i for sure know were officially diagnosed.

But yes ..you are correct.

But normal people ...are far worse than sociopaths.

corner of hells · 23-09-2020 9:57am

Hector Savage wrote: »

Imagine being the person who diagnoses the psychopath, you could have a good laugh at their expense down your local.

Feisar · 23-09-2020 9:57am

They say 1 in every 100 is a psycho.

Yester · 23-09-2020 10:02am

Do psychopaths know that they are psychopaths?

the purple tin · 23-09-2020 10:03am

Yester wrote: »

Do psychopaths know that they are psychopaths?

I don't think so.
Mad people think they are sane and everyone else around them are crackers.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 10:06am

Hector Savage wrote: »

Wars are started by normal people.

What about the holocaust? You think they have a higher no of sociopaths in Germany?

Rwanda ..serbia

Most murders are not committed by sociopaths.

Most sociopaths are not murderers.

IN fact most mass murderers are actually neurotypical.
https://www.livescience.com/22302-mass-killers-psychopaths-mental-illness.html

"People who commit mass murders are obviously not doing well," said Louis Schlesinger, a forensic psychologist at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York. "Just looking at Holmes' demeanor or behavior clearly suggests that, but that doesn't make him a psychopath."
And although psychopaths can be violent, that doesn't mean they commonly kill.
"Most psychopaths don't kill anybody," Schlesinger said, "and not everybody that kills is a psychopath."

Nuerotypical people usually with no serious mental disorders commit the most murders .....they may TRY and get away with it through pleading insanity etc

Same with child abusers.

They are usually more emotionally distraught than sociopathic.

Lack of self control. Unable to feed their damaged ego in a healthy way.

hayoc · 23-09-2020 10:08am

My ex husband.

He was living a completely secret double life for some (maybe all) of our marriage. Never gave away any hints. No remorse when he was found out. No empathy.

Dognapper · 23-09-2020 10:09am

hayoc wrote: »

My ex husband.

He was living a completely secret double life for some (maybe all) of our marriage. Never gave away any hints. No remorse when he was found out. No empathy.

That doesn’t make him a psychopath

steamsey · 23-09-2020 10:10am

the purple tin wrote: »

I don't think so.
Mad people think they are sane and everyone else around them are crackers.

I think that no, normally they wouldn't know unless they are tested or someone points it out to them

One unsettling thing I read is how some psychopaths mimic "human" behaviour. For example, trying to cry when they think the situation calls for it but they can't do it right and apparently it sounds and looks hideous - unlike real crying which sounds great.

the purple tin · 23-09-2020 10:11am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Wars are started by normal people. politicians

.

A lot of high ranking politicians are psychopaths.

hayoc · 23-09-2020 10:14am

Dognapper wrote: »

That doesn’t make him a psychopath

Maybe, maybe not. His entire life was a lie - both threads of it. He was lying to me, his family, etc - and then in his "other" life he was lying to the people in that. For YEARS. I have no idea how he was able to maintain it over that long. He completely disregarded the feelings of everyone in "both" lives.

Manipulating those around him to suit his own agenda.
No empathy.
God complex.
Socially irresponsible behaviour - rules didnt apply to him.
Compulsive liar.
Extremely deceitful.
No real friends - inability to form emotional connections.
Sometimes he faked how he thought he should behave in situations and would say afterwards that he hadnt a clue how he was supposed to act so he did what he thought was right.
Complete inability to understand someone elses emotional pain - but pretended to.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 10:18am

the purple tin wrote: »

I don't think so.
Mad people think they are sane and everyone else around them are crackers.

I would say they realize on their own that they are different. Or that we are different from them.

Or that people are more emotionally reactive than they are.

In fact I would say its going to be hard for them not to realize they are different.

If they didn't know. They wouldn't be able to construct the mask that conceals this.

I.E they wouldn't know to hide it from us.

If they didn't know they were different from us ..they wouldn't know they should pretend to be like us.

The person pretending to be overly empathic ..is a psycho.

The person who is volunteering publically for every charity ...

Dognapper · 23-09-2020 10:19am

hayoc wrote: »

Maybe, maybe not. His entire life was a lie - both threads of it. He was lying to me, his family, etc - and then in his "other" life he was lying to the people in that. For YEARS. I have no idea how he was able to maintain it over that long. He completely disregarded the feelings of everyone in "both" lives.

Manipulating those around him to suit his own agenda.
No empathy.
God complex.
Socially irresponsible behaviour - rules didnt apply to him.
Compulsive liar.
Extremely deceitful.
No real friends - inability to form emotional connections.
Sometimes he faked how he thought he should behave in situations and would say afterwards that he hadnt a clue how he was supposed to act so he did what he thought was right.
Complete inability to understand someone elses emotional pain - but pretended to.

Oh , see that paints a bigger picture. Maybe you do have a point

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 10:22am

the purple tin wrote: »

A lot of high ranking politicians are psychopaths.

No ....i would say a lot of them are nuerotypical.

Society has to stop blaming its woes on the 'wolf'.

WE ALLOW our politicians to do this ..we are psychos to then?

Look at the States!? Trumpers ...every single person who voted for a man who clearly displayed who he was ? Are they all ASPD? No.

lapua20grain · 23-09-2020 10:24am

Knew a psychopath years ago was good friends with him, he smashed his wife's head in with a barbell then carried on as if nothing had happened, he didn't see any wrong in what he had done she was in the way of what he wanted to do and who he wanted to be with and the easiest way to do it was to get rid of the wife.

hayoc · 23-09-2020 10:25am

Dognapper wrote: »

Oh , see that paints a bigger picture. Maybe you do have a point

I also found out that he had had a diagnosis of "borderline" psychopathy in childhood.

gimli2112 · 23-09-2020 10:46am

Dognapper wrote: »

There is a lot more to it than that
glib and superficial charm grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self need for stimulation pathological lying cunning and manipulativeness lack of remorse or guilt superficial expression of emotion callousness and lack of empathy parasitic lifestyle poor behavioural controls sexual promiscuity early behaviour problems lack of realistic long-term goals impulsive irresponsibility failure to accept responsibility for own actions many short-term marital relationships juvenile delinquency revocation of conditional release criminal versatility

it's unsettling how many boxes a certain US politician ticks here

Errashareesh · 23-09-2020 10:49am

lapua20grain wrote: »

Knew a psychopath years ago was good friends with him, he smashed his wife's head in with a barbell then carried on as if nothing had happened, he didn't see any wrong in what he had done she was in the way of what he wanted to do and who he wanted to be with and the easiest way to do it was to get rid of the wife.

Jaysus - Joe?

lapua20grain · 23-09-2020 10:49am

Errashareesh wrote: »

Jaysus - Joe?

Aye I rang him the day of the murder his answer when he picked up the phone was you heard then? had a tour around the house off him after her murder cool as ice nasty piece of work still doesn't see any wrong in what he did

Galwayguy35 · 23-09-2020 10:53am

Maybe.

I know a guy who is the main suspect in his wife's murder but they hadn't enough to get him on the murder charge.

GerardKeating · 23-09-2020 10:54am

Mad_maxx wrote: »

What's the difference a psychopath and a sociopath?

I was watching a movie once, one character called another a psychopath, which engaged him and he responded

I'm not a psychopath. I'm a sociopath. There's a difference. See, a psychopath is insane. He can't distinguish between wrong and right. A sociopath knows the difference. He just doesn't have a conscience, you know? So he doesn't care.

boardlady · 23-09-2020 11:10am

The Guard was it? Brendan Gleeson.

AndrewJRenko · 23-09-2020 11:10am

Nidge

Dognapper · 23-09-2020 11:11am

hayoc wrote: »

I also found out that he had had a diagnosis of "borderline" psychopathy in childhood.

I hope you’re happier without him so , I don’t know , I have a few traits of one myself , no friends , no remorse or empathy for people , I can lie with a straight face. I however love my wife and kids more than anything and will always put them before myself or anyone else ,I’ve never cheated on my wife and I always try to be a kind person , I think it’s a broad spectrum and a lot more too it than the eyes can see.

Kylta · 23-09-2020 11:38am

Yester wrote: »

Do psychopaths know that they are psychopaths?

Do psychopaths know how to use a cyclepath

SEPT 23 1989 · 23-09-2020 11:39am

You meet plenty in business

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 11:41am

Kylta wrote: »

Do psychopaths know how to use a cyclepath

cyclops ....for no partic reason

What Username Guidelines · 23-09-2020 11:42am

Lollipops23 wrote: »

I met Graham Dwyer a handful of times. Does he count?

I reckon so, I worked with him for 3 years

Defo counts.

Kylta · 23-09-2020 11:42am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

cyclops ....for no partic reason

A cyclops is just misconstrued as a one eye monster

inthenip · 23-09-2020 11:44am

Piers Morgan interviews psychopath on Netflix, jaysus still gives me chills thinking about it. It's well worth a watch.

Paris Bennett is the guy's name. They guy has no emotion. His IQ is through the roof as well.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 11:59am

I feel the above disgusting monster ....is just someone who was over ridden by negative emotions.

This is not someone who feels nothing. He strikes me as someone who let his negative emotions overwhelm him.

Not a very logical person.

McGinniesta · 23-09-2020 12:07pm

There is a very reasonable chance that we may all have encountered a psychopath at some point in our lives.

We may not have realised it at the time but they say that psychopathy may be more prevalent that you'd imagine.

McGinniesta · 23-09-2020 12:10pm

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 12:13pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

I REMEMBER SEEING THIS.

It gave me uncomfortable dreams.

That guy seems definitely much more like a psychopath. The guy with the long curly hair. He always tries to keep the masks up.

the purple tin · 23-09-2020 12:18pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

You meet plenty in business

And politics. They tend to do well in those fields. A lot of CEOs they reckon and leading politicians, they will do whatever it takes to get to the top and have no real loyalties to co-workers.

Sardonicat · 23-09-2020 12:21pm

inthenip wrote: »

Piers Morgan interviews psychopath on Netflix, jaysus still gives me chills thinking about it. It's well worth a watch.

Paris Bennett is the guy's name. They guy has no emotion. His IQ is through the roof as well.

Yeah, I saw this. Did you notice how infrequently he blinked? And how there was always a pause before he answered the questions. You could practically hear the cogs in his head whirring. Not really human at all.

I think there's a lot of confusion between psychopathy and sociopathy on this thread. They are not the same thing at all. And don't assume that narcissists aren't dangerous. The presence of narcissism with ASPD is what creates a true monster. Think Ian Brady.

the purple tin · 23-09-2020 12:27pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

Was that the guy who killed his brother when they were kids and made it look like an accident. he had it all pre-planned.

He couldn't understand that it is wrong to kill innocent people

People who did the slightest wrong thing to him were in trouble, he tried to kill his boss too.
The only time he showed any real emotion was when talking about how his boss had survived: you could see on his face that he was furious that he hadn't managed to kill him.

I saw a show about a woman in US who had 3 kids, single mother. She was going out with a man, but when she wanted to get more serious he said he didn't want a serious relationship or marriage.
She thought it must be because I have kids, that's why, so she hatched a plot to murder her children and pin the blame on a non-existent hitch hiker.
How broken does somebody have to be to think that that is the correct course of action to take.

No emotions displayed for her kids (luckily one of them survived), it was the logical thing to do in her mind

Sardonicat · 23-09-2020 12:32pm

the purple tin wrote: »

Was that the guy who killed his brother when they were kids and made it look like an accident. he had it all pre-planned.

He couldn't understand that it is wrong to kill innocent people
People who did the slightest wrong thing to him were in trouble, he tried to kill his boss too.
The only time he showed any real emotion was when talking about how his boss had survived: you could see on his face that he was furious that he hadn't managed to kill him.

I saw a show about a woman in US who had 3 kids, single mother. She was going out with a man, but when she wanted to get more serious he said he didn't want a serious relationship or marriage.
She thought it must be because I have kids, that's why, so she hatched a plot to murder her children and pin the blame on a non-existent hitch hiker.
How broken does somebody have to be to think that that is the correct course of action to take.

No emotions displayed for her kids (luckily one of them survived), it was the logical thing to do in her mind

No, he killed his little sister when still a child himself because he knew it would cause his mother the worst possible pain. He deliberately engineered a way for his baby sitter to leave early. Up until he did this everyone thought he was a beautiful, loving child.

Quite ironic that Pierce Morgan is interviewing him. I wouldn't want to look to hard inside his head.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 12:32pm

the purple tin wrote: »

Was that the guy who killed his brother when they were kids and made it look like an accident. he had it all pre-planned.

He couldn't understand that it is wrong to kill innocent people
People who did the slightest wrong thing to him were in trouble, he tried to kill his boss too.
The only time he showed any real emotion was when talking about how his boss had survived: you could see on his face that he was furious that he hadn't managed to kill him.

I saw a show about a woman in US who had 3 kids, single mother. She was going out with a man, but when she wanted to get more serious he said he didn't want a serious relationship or marriage.
She thought it must be because I have kids, that's why, so she hatched a plot to murder her children and pin the blame on a non-existent hitch hiker.
How broken does somebody have to be to think that that is the correct course of action to take.

No emotions displayed for her kids (luckily one of them survived), it was the logical thing to do in her mind

Thing is ..he keeps going on about how much he wants to be out of prison and free...but he seems fine in there ..he's not that unhappy. If he CARED about being in prison he wouldn't have committed whatever the LAST crime he did was.

Most sociopaths are fine in prison.

They don't need a lot.

If they didn't want to be there they would be sub criminal.

The mother ..doesn't understand the emotions of others at all. And totally cold.

And do you know ..if she thought that was why he did not want kids .....she was probably smart enough to read it right. So she just acted on it. Planned it etc.

Sardonicat · 23-09-2020 12:34pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Thing is ..he keeps going on about how much he wants to be out of prison and free...but he seems fine in there ..he's not that unhappy. If he CARED about being in prison he wouldn't have committed whatever the LAST crime he did was.

Most sociopaths are fine in prison.

They don't need a lot.

If they didn't want to be there they would be sub criminal.

His psychiatrists believe he wants to get out because he plans to kill his mother.

xzanti · 23-09-2020 12:36pm

I went out with one in my teens.

I'm still recovering.

I'm not joking.

nthclare · 23-09-2020 12:36pm

I'm not sure if I've met one but I've observed scenario's and behaviours which lead me to think how fcked up and narcissistic people are.

Take for instance someone's lying to you or not engaging with you on a fair and emotionally intelligent level.
But yet it's in black and white that they're lying, contradicting themselves and openly trying to gaslight you, then they blame you for being in the wrong, and you should say sorry for existing, be if you didn't exist in the first place in the psychopaths world, you wouldn't have triggered their acting out.

A lot of activists are psychopaths, and I've noticed that a lot of hippie, bohemian types are absolutely nuts too.
Especially the more intelligent one's.

There's a member of boards whom I now and again reckon is a potential psychopath/sociopath most definitely a narcissist.
Because you can read how they can lay on the charm with some and be quite nasty to other's, and people who this member likes are afraid to call them out on their bllsht, and anyone who does call them out is banned and ostricised..

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 12:37pm

Sardonicat wrote: »

His psychiatrists believe he wants to get out because he plans to kill his mother.

That makes sense.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 12:37pm

xzanti wrote: »

I went out with one in my teens.

I'm still recovering.

I'm not joking.

**** ...sorry .hope this thread doesn't make it seem like we are taking it too glibly.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 12:38pm

Sardonicat wrote: »

No, he killed his little sister when still a child himself because he knew it would cause his mother the worst possible pain. He deliberately engineered a way for his baby sitter to leave early. Up until he did this everyone thought he was a beautiful, loving child.

Quite ironic that Pierce Morgan is interviewing him. I wouldn't want to look to hard inside his head.

I am not sure but I think he is actually talking about someone else. In the other video.

the purple tin · 23-09-2020 12:50pm

Could someone explain why America is the serial killer capital of the world.
Per head of population they have an insane amount compared to the rest of the world.
Something like 12 of them operating in the states at any one time I think I heard somewhere!

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 1:09pm

the purple tin wrote: »

Could someone explain why America is the serial killer capital of the world.
Per head of population they have an insane amount compared to the rest of the world.
Something like 12 of them operating in the states at any one time I think I heard somewhere!

I don't know. But also the UK is quite high for its population.

Have you ever met an actual Psychopath?

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