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Who Builds Up Their Own Bikes?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭McTigs


    McTigs wrote: »
    I have a third, a Triumph ladies racer, which is down the lbs getting finished, i'll post up a pic when its back, it's really lovely.
    This just finished (almost, i'm still working on the dynamo).... wife is delighted with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    Have an old KTM steel bike from late 80's, anyone know if theyre any good?
    Even has the original ktm bell!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭hesker


    TheW1zard wrote: »
    Have an old KTM steel bike from late 80's, anyone know if theyre any good?
    Even has the original ktm bell!

    Hard to tell without a photo or a lot more detail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    outfox wrote: »
    Those CAAD bikes are superb. I built up a CAAD10 last year. Great bike to ride, although it's lost some of its mojo since Plastik pointed out that Cannonadale should be in italics :(

    stunning bike, had a 2012 caad 10 myself, great machine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭LollipopJimmy


    McTigs wrote: »
    This just finished (almost, i'm still working on the dynamo).... wife is delighted with it.

    I'm about to take on a project like this, it's a ladies Raleigh from the 80's. Really looking forward to it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭ridelikeaturtle


    I found an old Olmo frame & fork, Columbus Aelle - it's not even my size, but it was a good deal and really pretty, a pink/gold colour.

    I really hope it's as nice in person as what I've seen in pics. I'll post as soon as I have it in my hands. Not really sure what to do with it yet, there are lots of options as it's not super-special but it is a nice frame: full modern neo-retro, it'd easily accept any Shimano/SRAM or Campy groupset; total "rat-rod" with whatever stuff you have laying around; or what I'd probably go with (but I have no name for), stick a 9 or 10 speed wheelset on it, but stay with friction DT shifters, modern Tektro brakes but old levers and a quill stem.

    Something fun for the new year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭8valve


    I found an old Olmo frame & fork, Columbus Aelle - it's not even my size, but it was a good deal and really pretty, a pink/gold colour.

    I really hope it's as nice in person as what I've seen in pics. I'll post as soon as I have it in my hands. Not really sure what to do with it yet, there are lots of options as it's not super-special but it is a nice frame: full modern neo-retro, it'd easily accept any Shimano/SRAM or Campy groupset; total "rat-rod" with whatever stuff you have laying around; or what I'd probably go with (but I have no name for), stick a 9 or 10 speed wheelset on it, but stay with friction DT shifters, modern Tektro brakes but old levers and a quill stem.

    Something fun for the new year.


    SNAP! Picked up an old Olmo myself today, on a four hour roadtrip. Grand way to start the year!


    SL tubing and mostly old Shimano 600 in good shape.


    As if I needed another project bike!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭ridelikeaturtle


    8valve wrote: »
    SNAP! Picked up an old Olmo myself today, on a four hour roadtrip. Grand way to start the year!


    SL tubing and mostly old Shimano 600 in good shape.


    As if I needed another project bike!

    Was that the one on adverts, the gold one? If so, you did very well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭8valve


    Was that the one on adverts, the gold one? If so, you did very well.


    No, this one is red and white pearl, resprayed professionally at some point in its life.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Finnrocco


    I found a Raleigh Flyer over the Christmas, frame and fork, no headset, track ends on it.

    Seat post is stuck so guess it was dumped, I will try remove it and if I can will build it up with all the bits and pieces I have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭jimm


    8valve wrote: »
    SNAP! Picked up an old Olmo myself today, on a four hour roadtrip. Grand way to start the year!


    SL tubing and mostly old Shimano 600 in good shape.


    As if I needed another project bike!

    SNAP x 2!! Have this Olmo Competition as a winter project. Not done much lately apart from strip the yellow paint off the fork which was originally chrome plated. Will try to get a match with the red of the frame and spray the fork as the chrome is in poor condition. Recently got a Cinelli quill stem and bars, but still looking for parts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭8valve


    jimm wrote: »
    SNAP x 2!! Have this Olmo Competition as a winter project. Not done much lately apart from strip the yellow paint off the fork which was originally chrome plated. Will try to get a match with the red of the frame and spray the fork as the chrome is in poor condition. Recently got a Cinelli quill stem and bars, but still looking for parts.


    A friend got a pair of columbus forks powder coated in a chrome finish recently at Tallaght Powder coating, with good results.

    Not as durable as genuine chroming but a viable option if on a budget?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭jimm


    8valve wrote: »
    A friend got a pair of columbus forks powder coated in a chrome finish recently at Tallaght Powder coating, with good results.

    Not as durable as genuine chroming but a viable option if on a budget?

    Thanks, I had heard of spray painting to replicate chrome. I'll give them a shout. Got a quote from Derby Plating in UK of £130 + vat for re-chroming fork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭ridelikeaturtle


    I found an old Olmo frame & fork, Columbus Aelle - it's not even my size, but it was a good deal and really pretty, a pink/gold colour.

    I really hope it's as nice in person as what I've seen in pics. I'll post as soon as I have it in my hands. Not really sure what to do with it yet, there are lots of options as it's not super-special but it is a nice frame: full modern neo-retro, it'd easily accept any Shimano/SRAM or Campy groupset; total "rat-rod" with whatever stuff you have laying around; or what I'd probably go with (but I have no name for), stick a 9 or 10 speed wheelset on it, but stay with friction DT shifters, modern Tektro brakes but old levers and a quill stem.

    Something fun for the new year.

    So I finally got all the stuff together for this one and it's built - I just need a nice-enough day so I can get it out for more than just a quick test spin.

    While a little smaller than what I'd typically go for, it is surprisingly closer to a 57cm size (or my 57cm Bianchi is closer to a 55cm!) than I would have expected, and I don't think it will be uncomfortable or un-rideable.

    http://www.ridelikeaturtle.com/sport/olmo-i-cant-resist-a-beautiful-italian/

    DSCN0459-1024x768.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭8valve


    So I finally got all the stuff together for this one and it's built - I just need a nice-enough day so I can get it out for more than just a quick test spin.

    While a little smaller than what I'd typically go for, it is surprisingly closer to a 57cm size (or my 57cm Bianchi is closer to a 55cm!) than I would have expected, and I don't think it will be uncomfortable or un-rideable.

    http://www.ridelikeaturtle.com/sport/olmo-i-cant-resist-a-beautiful-italian/

    DSCN0459-1024x768.jpg


    Quite simply beautiful.
    Great to see another vintage steel machine going back o the road.
    Well wear!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭jimm


    jimm wrote: »
    SNAP x 2!! Have this Olmo Competition as a winter project. Not done much lately apart from strip the yellow paint off the fork which was originally chrome plated. Will try to get a match with the red of the frame and spray the fork as the chrome is in poor condition. Recently got a Cinelli quill stem and bars, but still looking for parts.

    Just looking at the underside of the fork crown and noticed that there is a wooden dowel inserted in the steerer tube, Its the same diameter as the tube and is stuck fast. I did a bit of research and discovered that these wooden dowels were usually made of Dogwood and were inserted as a safety feature should the fork snap mid ride!!! Used by French riders/Race Teams.

    https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/987834-vintage-steel-forks-wooden-dowel-not.html

    The wooden dowel in my fork is exactly like the one in Post#9 on the above Forum. Another poster also warns of the build up of moisture between the dowel and steel fork tube leading to corrosion.:eek:

    My question is: Should I remove the dowel or leave it in place?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭8valve


    jimm wrote: »
    Just looking at the underside of the fork crown and noticed that there is a wooden dowel inserted in the steerer tube, Its the same diameter as the tube and is stuck fast. I did a bit of research and discovered that these wooden dowels were usually made of Dogwood and were inserted as a safety feature should the fork snap mid ride!!! Used by French riders/Race Teams.

    https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/987834-vintage-steel-forks-wooden-dowel-not.html

    The wooden dowel in my fork is exactly like the one in Post#9 on the above Forum. Another poster also warns of the build up of moisture between the dowel and steel fork tube leading to corrosion.:eek:

    My question is: Should I remove the dowel or leave it in place?

    Thanks


    I've only ever come across these dowels once; coincidentally, it was on a 70s Motobecane, which ties in with the ''French'' connection.


    Mainly used to keep 5hite spraying up into the steerer tube off the tyre in wet conditions and purportedly to aid as a brace to prevent catastrophic fork steerer/crown brazed joint failure in a crash.


    The downside being that wood will indeed soak up moisture and start surface corrosion inside the steerer tube...not needed on touring bikes or everyday bikes as both had mudguards, so mainly for proper racing bikes back in the day.


    For originality, I'd say keep it, if there's no signs of corrosion around the edges of it and if you're not going to constantly cycle the bike in the wet. Little touches like this are great conversation starters.



    If in doubt at all, do as I did: remove the brake caliper (as the bolt goes through the dowel) and (carefully) ream it out with a long wood drill bit.

    P.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    Im making a flat bat commuter with a carbon frame, ill post a pic when its done!
    Ill retire the steelie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭jimm


    8valve wrote: »
    I've only ever come across these dowels once; coincidentally, it was on a 70s Motobecane, which ties in with the ''French'' connection.


    Mainly used to keep 5hite spraying up into the steerer tube off the tyre in wet conditions and purportedly to aid as a brace to prevent catastrophic fork steerer/crown brazed joint failure in a crash.


    The downside being that wood will indeed soak up moisture and start surface corrosion inside the steerer tube...not needed on touring bikes or everyday bikes as both had mudguards, so mainly for proper racing bikes back in the day.


    For originality, I'd say keep it, if there's no signs of corrosion around the edges of it and if you're not going to constantly cycle the bike in the wet. Little touches like this are great conversation starters.



    If in doubt at all, do as I did: remove the brake caliper (as the bolt goes through the dowel) and (carefully) ream it out with a long wood drill bit.

    P.

    Thanks for that. I'm swaying more towards removing it than leaving it in place. From reading posts on that other forum, I find it hard to believe that frame/fork designers wouldn't have engineered a better solution to reinforce an area subject to excessive stress, (a solution that didn't require a lump of wood to be hammered in). I'm sure they would have beefed up the joint between crown and steerer tube. Maybe the practice was a relic of times past when fork failure was common.

    I got the frameset (as shown in my earlier post with photo) without brake calipers so there is no bolt to remove, although the dowel is drilled for one.

    Even if I do remove it, it will still be a conversation starter!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭swarlb


    jimm wrote: »
    Thanks for that. I'm swaying more towards removing it than leaving it in place. From reading posts on that other forum, I find it hard to believe that frame/fork designers wouldn't have engineered a better solution to reinforce an area subject to excessive stress, (a solution that didn't require a lump of wood to be hammered in). I'm sure they would have beefed up the joint between crown and steerer tube. Maybe the practice was a relic of times past when fork failure was common.

    I got the frameset (as shown in my earlier post with photo) without brake calipers so there is no bolt to remove, although the dowel is drilled for one.

    Even if I do remove it, it will still be a conversation starter!!

    Seemingly that was a very common practise years ago. I have a reference to it in an old book (yes, a book, thing with pages that you need to flick through with your fingers to read).
    I'll try to dig it out and post a photo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Cetyl Palmitate


    Here are a couple of bikes I have been working on.

    This Viner I have had for a few years and have slowly been building up. Going to swap the stem and handlebars for something more modern and that should be it.

    7wdqDKt.jpg

    A more recent project was this Raleigh Tourer. Built in Dublin in 1979. A few small details to be tidied up like stainless steel cable clamps and little bits of painting

    Before:

    3Eu8h10.jpg

    After

    Ey5KvXQ.jpg

    For anyone interested here are the internal workings of the 3 speed Sturmey archer hub which needing servicing but no replacement parts. A very enjoyable few hours!

    CPqEvBL.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 976 ✭✭✭8valve




    For anyone interested here are the internal workings of the 3 speed Sturmey archer hub which needing servicing but no replacement parts. A very enjoyable few hours!

    CPqEvBL.jpg


    Sturmey archer hubs are filled with witchcraft, black magic and shattered dreams.....dismantling should be avoided at all costs :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Cetyl Palmitate


    8valve wrote: »
    Sturmey archer hubs are filled with witchcraft, black magic and shattered dreams.....dismantling should be avoided at all costs :)

    I made sure to cross a stream before going to bed that night ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,747 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    Liking that Viner Cetyl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭hesker


    swarlb wrote: »
    Seemingly that was a very common practise years ago. I have a reference to it in an old book (yes, a book, thing with pages that you need to flick through with your fingers to read).
    I'll try to dig it out and post a photo.

    Was it only on French bikes I wonder. I have a Peugeot with one fitted. When I flip the bike over it slides up the fork column and makes a little thunk sound as it hits the bottom of the stem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭jimm


    hesker wrote: »
    Was it only on French bikes I wonder. I have a Peugeot with one fitted. When I flip the bike over it slides up the fork column and makes a little thunk sound as it hits the bottom of the stem

    Sounds like the dowel has shrunken if it can slide up, and is no longer serving its "purpose"?? of adding strength to the steerer. It shouldn't move though if the brake caliper bolt is passing through it.

    My Olmo frame, although made in Italy may have been used in France, but I know nothing of its history.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    I fix up bikes [old bikes] for myself all the time but not quite build from scratch. Only issue I tend to have is spare parts, I often have to spend time on eBay looking and then find getting things sent on can cost twice as much as the part itself.

    Dan.



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