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I guess we can kick it off.

Don't want to go off topic in bargain alerts.

So yeah, I got G29 with that fantastic deal from pc world. I had my g27 before and I just used table for it. This time around I want something more proper. Though as anyone, I don't want to spend too much.

So if anyone got some gold options or experience I am here to listen.

So far my options I found:

Gt omega. I like it a lot and price is grand. Thinking of getting rid itself first and just move to my pc table to use it. I have 34inch 3440x1440 monitor, which would do fine for now. Then buying the monitor holder for it and then buying some cheap TV for pure purpose of this setup.
Problem with this one, when I started looking in to reviews. It looks like a very choped job when it comes to assembly and pedal plate is crap. On the other hand they say it's very good stable setup when it's built.
http://www.gtomegaracing.com/gt-omega-racing-driving-simulator-cockpits/art-racing-simulator-cockpit/art-cockpits/gt-omega-art-racing-simulator-cockpit-rs6

Second choice:

fk automotive.

First of all, it's cheap, very cheap. And that's what I am afraid off. Not many reviews of it, but what I sow, the wheel stand itself wobbles alot. It won't have a stand for screen so it will mean I will have to cow boy in some stand from third party down the line. Another issue: position of gear stick. Its way better on omega and more realistic I guess.
I sow someone selling these on adverts for 250eu... Lol.
Any opinions on this?

https://www.fk-shop.de/en/Tuning/Sport-seats-belts/Racing-simulator-seats/Game-Seat-for-PC-and-game-consoles-imitation-leather-black-white.html?force_sid=ragk6fkpmuql73njj5vg324jq6#description

Third option:
Wheel stand. That's like proper ghetto option and I would use my own chair for it. Not much improvement over just hooking it on table, but ability just to take ot out, set it and play it, then when finished just out it aside looks very appealing. One of the reasons why I did not used g27 much is due to hassle setting it up every single time.

Fourth option:

Gt omega wheel stand with optional plate for gear stick. This looks like a bit better proposition and nest part is I can ad seat rails after if I want. I just wonder if my pc chair arm rest will get in a way for gear stick.

http://www.gtomegaracing.com/wheel-stands/gt-omega-racing-wheel-stands/gt-omega-steering-wheel-stand


So yeah, space is limited, but I could dedicate a corner just for my sim setup with separate screen. So do I just go and get full on cockpit now and work away with it or get a stand? Then again, every time you cheap out you end up spending more and buying proper thing later... Any ideas welcome.

I'm actually not discounting the Playseat challenge. It's still kind of pricy at £200 not inc. shipping. But everyone I've talked to about it says it's pretty good. The wheel position looks like it's kind of far away with no way to pull it closer.

It would be ideal for my space issues but I don't know if it will work.

I should be getting my new wheel sometime in the new year, I'm going to go for the fanatec Clubsport base rather than the CSL, with the new CSL pedal set. So it's going to be a pretty beefy wheel and pedal combo that might be a bit much for that playseat.

GT Omega ART/PRO is what I'll likely go for. Now I'm trying to decide do I move my PC into a room with that rig and take an old PC out of mothballs to use for entertainment and use the steam link over LAN thing for non sim games?

Okay, all bits now delivered.

Got my 525gb ssd, g29 and GT omega stand.

Windows 10 on pc with new ssd installed. Stand put together too, but I cant put wheel on until 25th.

All in all very very happy with stand and quality is WAY better then I expected. I honestly though I will get something out of xmas cracker, but was very wrong.

Dcully wrote: »

Enjoy, please tell me your gonna run something more substantial than forza to do it all justice.

I have asseto corsa from g27 days. That's my priority sim for now, unless there were some new ones that came out recently. I used 3x1080p screens with gtx 680 2gb then, but now I got 3440x1440 with 1060 6gb. So hopefully it will run better.

Project cars was not out when I still used g27. So will need to check that out or get feedback off you guys.

Heard good things about Automobilista so hopefully will grab it on Xmas steam sale.

I am open to suggestions.

I love forza games, specially non horizon ones and wanted to play my good old forza 6 on xbox one, but i could not get G920. Gran turismo better be good on ps4...

Dcully wrote: »

Nothing wrong with forza man,it is what it is and a solid simcade as some might call it.
Just with a nice wheel and stand i really recommend the top sims out there.
Avoid Pcars is my advice [dont get me started ]
Stick to assetto corsa, automobilista,raceroom,rfactor2 and iracing for your sims.

Jaysus the stock content for AMS short for [automobilista] alone will keep any simracer busy for many years,not to mention mods.
Same can be said for the others in fairness.

Whenever i want to scratch my simracing itch the last few weeks the porsche DLC for AC [assetto corsa] is my go to,closely followed by anything in AMS.
Next month AMS will more than likely be my go to sim and then AC next up, it tends to flow like that for me

Its a great time for anyone even remotely into simracing.

We really need to rephrase simracing to simdriving

A lot of the time in my sims i just lap and lap for hours alone on the track pushing only maybe 90% finding all the intricies of track/car combos.
Other times ill race the AI and give it everything.

I quite enjoy simtrucking too with truck simulator

Jaysus i was on a roll there.

Back OT enjoy your new setup man, id say they will be immense @ that resolution, 60hz for simracing is fine

I love forza ( non horizon) games, because they are structured like... You know... Games. Earning credits, saving up for cars, buying specific ones for specific race, customising them, like good old days of gran turismo 1 and 2. I truly think it's best simcade game out there. Never played horizon games, but I loved test drive ultimate, it was just fun driving around the massive island. Discovering events etc. Will be fun to give it a go.
As for proper wheel setup games I have to admit, i do same thing. Just lap in circles trying to get better times and learning one track and one car for hours. It becomes fun on its own. Loved doing some races with AI, but I would get chopy framers and it was hard to play. This time I hope I won't have this issue.
One thing I was really bad at in AC was heal toe thing. With all stuff turned off, I would spin out soooo many times, just because clutch and gear change, but revs would be not in right place. I am still complete noob when it comes to sims. To my defence I had really **** setup with my desk. Again, hopefully it will be way better now and I'll be able to use it a lot more due to simplicity of setting up. Taking wheel out, untangle cables, set it up on a table etc. It took ages. A lot of times I wanted to drive, but I could not be ****ed. On top of that my 3 monitor setup was ass thx to nvidia. It would constantly break.

I will get automobilista for sure. Hooking for good deal on sales.

Regarding the playseat challenge, I have it and find it very good, if space is an issue it's definitely worth considering.

Titzon Toast wrote: »

Pick up a bucket seat or a swanky leather front seat from a scrap yard maybe?
I got one from a WRX sti for €30. A simple wooden frame was all it needed.

I think omega gt on their website selling railings for stand, you can even connected them if you want. Then get that bucket seat thing. Could be an option.

I finish work at 9:30, an hour to get home. So get shower, whio out credit card and buy some sims.

Okay, I bought this morning Automobilista. downloading asseto Corsa too. Crap thing is, I wont be able to set up my wheel and finally give it a go until Sunday.

Okay, finally got it set up! Since 8 in the morning hehe.

Now it is not a patch on your setups here lads, but for a part timer racing sim fan it will do now.



So far experience is really good with few issues.

First of all with wheel stand and proper position I am already driving way better and it feels more natural then old setup with g27, which was just bolting the damn thing on old table.
My one 34Inc 3440x1440 monitor is way better then 3x1080p 23inch monitor setup. Performance and actual proper field of view wise it is way better. On benchmark I get 120fps, so I have steady 60fps in all races even with a lot of cars in asseto corsa. Happy days!
Now a bit off bad stuff:
Took a while to realise that I need to manually set up G29 in AC! G27 would at least do most of it by default amd then you tweet stuff. I got it all working amd it's fine.
Automobilista is just completely broken with G29. Clutch is not working and red. H shifter is just not working properly. 1St gear is 5th gear, 2nd gear is 6th. Even when I just try to go to random race, car just sits there amd does not move. Even engage car in first gear, but clutch is not working and can't do a thing just rev engine and turn wheel... Looks like support for G29 is not great even from reading random Googled forum posts. Will have to fiddle around with it when I got more time.
Downloading Forza horizon 3 now.

Meanwhile I am messing around in fiat 500 on AC. Love AC and it's as good as I remember.

Any other good games I can check out? No need to be pure sims. Something like dirt motocross would be fun. I know dirt rally is good, but I am not really in to solo rally driving, prefer some races where I can brush against my opponents.

Dcully wrote: »

I know loads of G29 users with no issues in automobilista, you are 100% missing something your end.
Google your issue or go to AMS forums, you are missing out on the best sim available, i guarantee you are doing something small your end.

Dirt Rally is amazing, its not just a rally sim it also has rally cross racing with AI opponents.

Other than that dirt 3 rallycross is fun, its not a sim or even close to it but good fun for a while, probably dirt cheap now on steam too

With that setup you should really consider getting euro truck simulator 2, such a relaxing experience and different to anything else on the market.

Finally , move that nice big screen closer to your eyes

I have Dirt 3, but I think I never gave it a proper go. I know its not sim, but its all about fun in the end.

I will still sort it out, just no time. We going to my misses mothers house for xmas dinner soon, so it will have to be put away for when I got time. For now I am messing around in AC and hopefully FH3 will be downloaded when we get back home.

All in all, I am very happy now. So much less hassle to set up and put away. I will have a lot more driving time for sure now!

I know I most likely be banned from here for this, but... I kind really having fun with Forza Horizon 3...

I left it to download while we were out for dinner at misses mothers house and when I got back I gave it a wee bash.
I'll be honest, I expected it not even run on my pc, but I put settings on high, turned off all sort off AA ( at my resolution I found it useless and just too taxing), motion blur off and the damn thing runs pretty neat at 50-70 fps!!!

Now I know its not a sim, but god its fun to fly down the road and avoiding traffic while racing some npc.
One downside is that H shifter is not working on it, so I am stuck with just paddle shift. Its fun though.

Great, less stressful fun with steering wheel and G29 works pretty well!

Looks like for now I will be switching between AC and FH3. When I got spare time i will try to get automobilista working.

Andrew76 wrote: »

Horizon 3 is good fun alright, played it for a little bit and the car collecting side to it was what I found most fun. Actually bought a bunch of car games for the Xbox One while I was waiting for my wheel to arrive that time - Dirt Rally, FH3, Forza 6. Haven't touched any of them since I got AMS on the PC. :pac:

Did you get a chance to see if you could get it working? I had a look over the manual and it mentioned a problem where your car wouldn't move at all - if this happens then check the clutch settings in the Controls section - it might already be pressed and preventing the car from moving.

In fairness, I know it's pure arcade racer game, but it's just fun. Feels great too.

I spent all day in bed sick. Didn't even touched my setup. Only had a chance to play a bit on Xmas day. I am still very very sock, but already at work since 9 and be lucky to finish 9:30 tonight.
I am off Thursday and Friday so hopefully will be in form to mess around with my setup and get AMS working too.

Havent posted in a while, but I am not dead yet! YET! Very busy at work due to xmas and all free time I had was consumer by xmas and family.

Anyway, I am still using my setup and loving it. The beauty of wheel stand shines now. Its just so easy to set it up and play. Takes me less then 2min to set it, connect it and launch game. Massive difference from old g27 days and 3 monitor setup... Was taking me good 15min do set it all up and constant issues with 3 monitor setup.

I managed to get Automobilista to work, but did not played it much. What I tried, it felt very very different from any other sim/game I tried. It actually feels like cars have weight and stance, where in other games/sims it feels that you drive a car with 20kg weight. Will need to give it more time. I just dont see any cars I want to race in there.

Most of you will hate it, but if I had time I played forza horizon 3. Its just fun. I am still horrible at it and I bet I would be better with controller due to experience, but as I said, its fun. Its a shame H shifter of g29 does not work, but I love paddle shift now. Kind of annoying that G920 works perfectly...

So i picked up a G29 in currys the other day,on holidays for a week after today so ive either got to improvise some sort of mount or go and buy one of the various stands/seats that are for sale.

Room is quite limited so something that could be put away in a reasonably small utility cupboard would be ideal.

The stand i liked the look of is the Wheel Stand Pro,just over €100 on amazon. Id like something a little cheaper though or an idea for something i could put together myself.

So anyone got any advice regarding this stuff,i had a few wheels when i was younger but they were mostly suction cup stuff that just stuck onto any old table so im a bit lost here.

The GT Omega pro sim rig arrived the other day, delivered from Scotland in two days, a day earlier than I was expecting.

I'm still waiting on everything else so I haven't used it yet. I have it assembled and have my old pedals and wheel attached to it to get it set up to my height for when the real stuff arrives.

It has a fair amount of adjustability, however that adjustability is built into the frames assembly, other than the seat having standard adjustments like for the back rest and moving it forward and backwards there's no on the fly adjustments. To adjust wheel height you have to disassemble it slightly and assemble it at the new height.

Which is mostly fine, it just means if someone else wants to use it they have to be the same size as you, or you have to reassemble. It's not a major issue to reassemble but it's going to take a few minutes and it's going to wear out the nuts and bolts if you're constantly readjusting.

I would say that I'm the maximum size that will fit into this frame though. I'm about 6'2" and a 42" waist. You could be taller but no wider. The whole unit is a bit on the narrow side, the seat itself is about two or three inches narrower than a real car seat, which wouldn't be as much of an issue if it didn't flair the seat edges so they stick up at the sides.

There isn't a whole lot of adjustment in the wheel height but it's just in the right position (right position being chest height centre wheel) for me at maximum and I'm one of those people that has shorter legs and a longer torso. So even if you are taller it may still be fine.

Other than the seat being a bit narrow it's a very nice seat, seems well made so far and looks sporty. But I've only just sat in it for size references really. The two sets of instructions I ended up with weren't great but it's not rocket science. I wasn't expecting to get the keyboard tray, for some reason I thought that was an extra.

The whole thing assembled is smaller than I thought it would be, I don't know why but I thought it would take up more room, but it's fairly compact, it could quiet easily fit in a corner and take up no more space than any other normal sized piece of furniture like a table or dresser.

Fanatec also upgraded their clubsport v2 wheel to the clubsport v2.5, I've heard rumors that anyone that's waiting on pre order (which would be me) is getting an automatic upgrade, which would be great because I think the new one is more expensive. I'm still waiting for them to confirm payment through bank order.

I don't think there are any major differences, the only thing I could see was a change to the USB rate.