New slurry tank with dribble bar prices

mengele · 16-06-2020 12:28pm #1

Anyone have a few prices for new slurry tanks with the dribble bar. What makes are dearer/ cheaper e.g. major, abbey, hi spec, red rock etc.

blue5000 · 16-06-2020 12:36pm

What size tanks? Ballpark 40-50k depending on spec. They're really milking the grant money. We're beside Abbey, but a good few Conor tanks sold around here in the last year or so.

Gods Gift · 16-06-2020 12:56pm

Bought our tank dec 17. €32500
Had gone up €5000 by March 18.
God only know s what it would be now.

Panch18 · 16-06-2020 12:57pm

Gods Gift wrote: »

Bought our tank dec 17. €32500
Had gone up €5000 by March 18.
God only know s what it would be now.

What make size and spec if you don’t mind me asking?

Gods Gift · 16-06-2020 3:51pm

Panch18 wrote: »

What make size and spec if you don’t mind me asking?

Conor 2500. Galvanised with the 7m economy trailing shoe.

richie123 · 16-06-2020 7:23pm

Belmac do a 2500 gallon tanker for 15 grand
Dribble bar around 12...I think they are best out there money wise.

Reggie. · 16-06-2020 7:41pm

Belmac 2500 here. Cost 16k Inc vat last year. Put a slurryquip dribble bar on it for 12k inc vat. So 28k total

Gods Gift · 16-06-2020 10:55pm

Get the shoe. Worth the extra few euros.
Far better when there is grass cover.

lefthooker · 17-06-2020 11:20pm

One thing I won't be doing anymore is chasing salesmen. They either want to do business or they don't . Rang 5 dealers/agents in the last 3 weeks re pricing a new tank and dribble bar and only 2 have given a quote

ruwithme · 18-06-2020 12:59am

Expect any new so called reps scheme will have low emissions slurry spreading mandatory upon joining. expect price of these things will then rise sharpish.

jntsnk · 18-06-2020 8:13am

ruwithme wrote: »

Expect any new so called reps scheme will have low emissions slurry spreading mandatory upon joining. expect price of these things will then rise sharpish.

That’s very true. They are already over priced and contractors change handsomely per hr. Reps might not be worth it

richie123 · 18-06-2020 8:16am

lefthooker wrote: »

One thing I won't be doing anymore is chasing salesmen. They either want to do business or they don't . Rang 5 dealers/agents in the last 3 weeks re pricing a new tank and dribble bar and only 2 have given a quote

This is a massive problem with most dealerships.
How bloody hard is it to give out a price on a machine.
It always amazes me,there selling machines every week and don't seem to know the price when you ask for it.ill get back to ya is what you'll hear.absolute bull****.

Reggie. · 18-06-2020 11:04am

jntsnk wrote: »

That’s very true. They are already over priced and contractors change handsomely per hr. Reps might not be worth it

What price are you paying per hr for slurry spreading

lefthooker · 18-06-2020 11:10am

richie123 wrote: »

This is a massive problem with most dealerships.
How bloody hard is it to give out a price on a machine.
It always amazes me,there selling machines every week and don't seem to know the price when you ask for it.ill get back to ya is what you'll hear.absolute bull****.

I think it’s salesmen in general and it’s like they’re trying to wade thru the time wasters and dreamers.
I’ve a close friend who’s a tractor dealer. I was shocked at his ignorance during and after a call from a potential customer. It was an after hours call but he advertises online so should be prepared to answer calls in the evenings. I said if I was in the other end of the line I wouldn’t be bothering him again.
It’s a wonder how some places stay in business.
Of the 5 I’m known to 4 of them and have bought from 3 of them. And our last 2 tankers came from 1 of them.
The 2 prices I’ve got are from major dealers, the abbey men don’t seem interested yet;
2400gal galv on 800s with 7.5m dribble bar = 37-38k

And while we’re on dealerships, CAR GARAGES 😡
You’re circumstances may change and you may need to upgrade the family car. So you’re out for a drive some evening and swing by a dealership to see what’s available. Something catches your eye so you get out and walk over to the vehicle to check out the price, mileage etc. hanging of the windscreen, do a quick walk around checking out bodywork. You’re walking back to your own car thinking I might be interested and then the crackly intercom tells you to leave the premises immediately and if you don’t we have you on camera the Gardai will be called.
Well you can keep your bloody car and if you don’t want customers looking at them lock them in a bloody compound 🤬🤬

westlander · 18-06-2020 11:33am

lefthooker wrote: »

I think it’s salesmen in general and it’s like they’re trying to wade thru the time wasters and dreamers.
I’ve a close friend who’s a tractor dealer. I was shocked at his ignorance during and after a call from a potential customer. It was an after hours call but he advertises online so should be prepared to answer calls in the evenings. I said if I was in the other end of the line I wouldn’t be bothering him again.
It’s a wonder how some places stay in business.
Of the 5 I’m known to 4 of them and have bought from 3 of them. And our last 2 tankers came from 1 of them.
The 2 prices I’ve got are from major dealers, the abbey men don’t seem interested yet;
2400gal galv on 800s with 7.5m dribble bar = 37-38k

And while we’re on dealerships, CAR GARAGES &#55357;&#56865;
You’re circumstances may change and you may need to upgrade the family car. So you’re out for a drive some evening and swing by a dealership to see what’s available. Something catches your eye so you get out and walk over to the vehicle to check out the price, mileage etc. hanging of the windscreen, do a quick walk around checking out bodywork. You’re walking back to your own car thinking I might be interested and then the crackly intercom tells you to leave the premises immediately and if you don’t we have you on camera the Gardai will be called.
Well you can keep your bloody car and if you don’t want customers looking at them lock them in a bloody compound &#55358;&#56620;&#55358;&#56620;

I know the feeling. I was pricing around as well. i found that really you're better off actually driving to the place instead of ringing because a lot of them are horrid to get back to you on the phone.

There is some amount of choice now nearly too much wrt to slurry tankers. I see grass tech are making tankers now as well.

Another one to add too your list:
https://www.donedeal.ie/manurespreaders-for-sale/tankers-and-dribble-bars-with-bomech-macerator/25076822 :pac:

You would think with the amount of ones now on the market it should be possible to strike a good deal but they all seem flat out with this LESS grant,

jntsnk · 18-06-2020 1:24pm

Reggie. wrote: »

What price are you paying per hr for slurry spreading

Do all my own agitation and slurry spreading. Old school here. Splash plate tanker. Beef farming , so trying to keep cost down with only essential purchases. Couldn’t see spending 30-40k to spread ****e almost the same way as cost effective. Will battle on until the market is a wash with secondhand ones in about 5 yrs.

70/hr my neighbour was charged for the low emission spreading

Mooooo · 18-06-2020 2:20pm

Reggie. wrote: »

What price are you paying per hr for slurry spreading

130 / hr with umbilical and dribble bar. Would be equivalent to 3 tankers going in output I'd say, roughly

GrasstoMilk · 18-06-2020 2:21pm

Mooooo wrote: »

130 / hr with umbilical and dribble bar. Would be equivalent to 3 tankers going in output I'd say, roughly

Abd none of the mess or compaction

Mooooo · 18-06-2020 2:27pm

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Abd none of the mess or compaction

If your spreading land around the tank can't beat it really for output. Extremely thick slurry would catch it alright. Lads aren't fond of plastic either! Have a couple of tanks around the yard so have our own agitator which we use to mix and pump between tanks so I have it mixed they just land and go. Using new guys who've just got the pipe this year as previous crowd exited but they are sound and closer as well

Buford T. Justice XIX · 18-06-2020 3:14pm

jntsnk wrote: »

Do all my own agitation and slurry spreading. Old school here. Splash plate tanker. Beef farming , so trying to keep cost down with only essential purchases. Couldn’t see spending 30-40k to spread ****e almost the same way as cost effective. Will battle on until the market is a wash with secondhand ones in about 5 yrs.

70/hr my neighbour was charged for the low emission spreading

There are some guys out there selling secondhand dribble bars and trailing shoes attachments for the back of tanks. A friend of mine bought one and was waiting for it to be attached last spring.

And, as you said, there's not going to be widespread adoption until there's a well supplied secondhand market though I'd say it will be a while beyond 5 years.

Reggie. · 18-06-2020 6:05pm

Mooooo wrote: »

130 / hr with umbilical and dribble bar. Would be equivalent to 3 tankers going in output I'd say, roughly

Not really. Two tankers can keep up with the umbilical

Mooooo · 18-06-2020 6:54pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Not really. Two tankers can keep up with the umbilical

It'd rattle the three alright down here, rolls out to the furthest point cross country and works there way back with 200+ hp driving the pump. If they have to go different directions or skip between ground twud slow em a bit alright but generally get it when I have blocks of ground, spring time or silage but in the one direction or block three tankers would be flat out to be spreading as much

Reggie. · 18-06-2020 8:45pm

Mooooo wrote: »

It'd rattle the three alright down here, rolls out to the furthest point cross country and works there way back with 200+ hp driving the pump. If they have to go different directions or skip between ground twud slow em a bit alright but generally get it when I have blocks of ground, spring time or silage but in the one direction or block three tankers would be flat out to be spreading as much

Well I know I was spreading with another tanker. I was managing 3 loads an hour or 4 and the other tanker 2. So between us we moved 12,500 gallons and hour and over 3 12hr days we practically emptied a 500,000 gallon tower.

All sorts of ground from paddocks to silage ground to maize ground covered over them days.

Umbilical isn't the saviour either. I wager we were as value for money as the umbilical and more versatile

Hard Knocks · 18-06-2020 9:42pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Well I know I was spreading with another tanker. I was managing 3 loads an hour or 4 and the other tanker 2. So between us we moved 12,500 gallons and hour and over 3 12hr days we practically emptied a 500,000 gallon tower.

All sorts of ground from paddocks to silage ground to maize ground covered over them days.

Umbilical isn't the saviour either. I wager we were as value for money as the umbilical and more versatile

True but wouldn’t leave as much tracks in early spring

mahoney_j · 18-06-2020 10:09pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

True but wouldn’t leave as much tracks in early spring

Tbf newer tanks with better axel set ups ,bigger low pressure tyres and a driver with a brain are very easy on ground even in spring umbilical has a place granted but to say they do little to damage is a stretch stakes and fences can have nice bit damage done pulling around pipes and I’ve yet to see a driver that can put any sort of accuracy on what’s going out I’ve used umbilical and t shoe tank and dribble bar tank and out of them all only one I’d have back is the 2750 gallon tank with t shoe

Reggie. · 18-06-2020 10:13pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

True but wouldn’t leave as much tracks in early spring

Only any real damage is usually at the gaps. Pull of a landlevel or harrow when it dries up and a bit of grass seed and ya would barely know the tank was there

GrasstoMilk · 18-06-2020 10:24pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Well I know I was spreading with another tanker. I was managing 3 loads an hour or 4 and the other tanker 2. So between us we moved 12,500 gallons and hour and over 3 12hr days we practically emptied a 500,000 gallon tower.

All sorts of ground from paddocks to silage ground to maize ground covered over them days.

Umbilical isn't the saviour either. I wager we were as value for money as the umbilical and more versatile

The guy we use can do 25k gallons an hour with 6 inch pipes.
Definitely not the full answer to slurry spreading bit ideal for the land around the parlour

visatorro · 18-06-2020 10:45pm

GrasstoMilk wrote:

The guy we use can do 25k gallons an hour with 6 inch pipes. Definitely not the full answer to slurry spreading bit ideal for the land around the parlour

Same here but tankers will always be needed. I wouldn't move away from the pipes though for the big job's

K.G. · 18-06-2020 10:53pm

mahoney_j wrote: »

Tbf newer tanks with better axel set ups ,bigger low pressure tyres and a driver with a brain are very easy on ground even in spring umbilical has a place granted but to say they do little to damage is a stretch stakes and fences can have nice bit damage done pulling around pipes and I’ve yet to see a driver that can put any sort of accuracy on what’s going out I’ve used umbilical and t shoe tank and dribble bar tank and out of them all only one I’d have back is the 2750 gallon tank with t shoe

Umbilical s are only suited to trailing shoe,with dribble bars they mark too.much grass if ground is not bearish. Umbilical is handy now and again but they now are nearly as heavy as tanks and mark ground on hills.a 2200 gl tank with a good operator is nearly as handy though as you have alot less wires down and posts cracked and stuff.we always like to get slurry back to silage ground and.slatted house slurry is more suited to tanks so we probably buy our own dribble bar

GrasstoMilk · 18-06-2020 11:09pm

K.G. wrote: »

Umbilical s are only suited to trailing shoe,with dribble bars they mark too.much grass if ground is not bearish. Umbilical is handy now and again but they now are nearly as heavy as tanks and mark ground on hills.a 2200 gl tank with a good operator is nearly as handy though as you have alot less wires down and posts cracked and stuff.we always like to get slurry back to silage ground and.slatted house slurry is more suited to tanks so we probably buy our own dribble bar

We covered the whole milking block with slurry here the 3rd week of jan.
Farm cover was 1100, no issues with dirty grass.

Our silage ground too far to draw slurry too so we just buy 0 7 30 for it and use less p and k at home them

K.G. · 18-06-2020 11:36pm

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

We covered the whole milking block with slurry here the 3rd week of jan.
Farm cover was 1100, no issues with dirty grass.

Our silage ground too far to draw slurry too so we just buy 0 7 30 for it and use less p and k at home them

January fine but march on i think you would want ground just grazed for dribble bar. Trailing shoe id better for longer grass

mahoney_j · 19-06-2020 7:17am

K.G. wrote: »

January fine but march on i think you would want ground just grazed for dribble bar. Trailing shoe id better for longer grass

No comoarasiin beteween both t shoe wins every time

Gods Gift · 19-06-2020 8:40am

K.G. wrote: »

January fine but march on i think you would want ground just grazed for dribble bar. Trailing shoe id better for longer grass

After seeing ours working a neighbor said he’d put pieces of spring steel in front of his dribble bar pipes to part the grass and get it directly onto the ground. Never did it though. Changed it for a shoe.

19-06-2020 9:20am

Reggie. wrote: »

Well I know I was spreading with another tanker. I was managing 3 loads an hour or 4 and the other tanker 2. So between us we moved 12,500 gallons and hour and over 3 12hr days we practically emptied a 500,000 gallon tower.

All sorts of ground from paddocks to silage ground to maize ground covered over them days.

Umbilical isn't the saviour either. I wager we were as value for money as the umbilical and more versatile

What size tanks were ye using ?

Mooooo · 19-06-2020 9:37am

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

The guy we use can do 25k gallons an hour with 6 inch pipes.
Definitely not the full answer to slurry spreading bit ideal for the land around the parlour

Yeah, old crowd had 160k gallons out in 8 hours including rolling out and rolling up. Not the full answer but I'd say 90% of our slurry goes out with it now, and in the correct time of year. All ground would be paddocks in the spring as well, I'd pick up the wire on silage ground so silage lads do less damage as ground is heavy. Operators make a big difference too tho. There was a lad at it before round the area and apparently he put a lot of lads off it.

Reggie. · 19-06-2020 11:56am

9935452 wrote: »

What size tanks were ye using ?

Two 2500 tankers

westlander · 19-06-2020 12:37pm

Conor make a 2750 gallon as well as a 2500 gal tanker. Is 2750 gallons a bit too extreme for a single axle?
Any owners of one on here?

richie123 · 19-06-2020 1:44pm

westlander wrote: »

Conor make a 2750 gallon as well as a 2500 gal tanker. Is 2750 gallons a bit too extreme for a single axle?
Any owners of one on here?

Friend of mine has a 2750 and I think it's way too extreme for one axle.
Think of last February and tanks full and waterlogged conditions.
2500 max for single axle.the biggest tyre u can buy too.

Gillespy · 19-06-2020 2:05pm

The great thing with big tanks is you don't have to fill them. Our 2400 gallon, when filled until I see slurry in the rear sight glass is worth a few extra mph going up a steep hill and makes all the difference in touchy ground condition is early spring.

Have a smaller tank on russians we kept to do that kind of job but it is way worse. It feels heavier to pull despite being half the size. Wheels are the key.

Panch18 · 19-06-2020 2:16pm

Does any manufacturer make a dribble bar that can be used on a tanker and then taken off and used independently as part of an umbilical system? Or is that a stupid question and they all do that?

Reggie. · 19-06-2020 2:42pm

Panch18 wrote: »

Does any manufacturer make a dribble bar that can be used on a tanker and then taken off and used independently as part of an umbilical system? Or is that a stupid question and they all do that?

Think abbey do but what would be the point

Panch18 · 19-06-2020 2:51pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Think abbey do but what would be the point

Well you'd have your umbilical system for land by the yard in winter and then you could put it on the tanker for drawing slurry in the summer

kevthegaff · 19-06-2020 3:05pm

Gillespy wrote: »

The great thing with big tanks is you don't have to fill them. Our 2400 gallon, when filled until I see slurry in the rear sight glass is worth a few extra mph going up a steep hill and makes all the difference in touchy ground condition is early spring.

Have a smaller tank on russians we kept to do that kind of job but it is way worse. It feels heavier to pull despite being half the size. Wheels are the key.

Which tyres are easiest to pull?

westlander · 19-06-2020 3:25pm

Panch18 wrote: »

Does any manufacturer make a dribble bar that can be used on a tanker and then taken off and used independently as part of an umbilical system? Or is that a stupid question and they all do that?

MR NEWROCK's dribble bar is like that it can be lifted off see here:
https://newrockengineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Dribble-Bar-PDF.pdf

i think some others are like that too but not 100% certain.

Reggie. · 19-06-2020 5:09pm

kevthegaff wrote: »

Which tyres are easiest to pull?

800s

Gillespy · 19-06-2020 6:00pm

Height is as important in tanker wheels. Less resistance with taller wheels. Probably a compromise in that going by how many tanks you hear about capsizing. Ours is on 28.1 R26, not the biggest, still a big wheel and you'll know it if you have to take it on or off but very stable going in gaps etc.

richie123 · 19-06-2020 7:28pm

Gillespy wrote: »

Height is as important in tanker wheels. Less resistance with taller wheels. Probably a compromise in that going by how many tanks you hear about capsizing. Ours is on 28.1 R26, not the biggest, still a big wheel and you'll know it if you have to take it on or off but very stable going in gaps etc.

Yes but companies like slurry spec or major do an axle built through the tank to lower it great idea too.

GrasstoMilk · 19-06-2020 11:13pm

richie123 wrote: »

Friend of mine has a 2750 and I think it's way too extreme for one axle.
Think of last February and tanks full and waterlogged conditions.
2500 max for single axle.the biggest tyre u can buy too.

Major make a 3100 on single axle.
Know of 2 not far from me

20-06-2020 2:46am

Reggie. wrote: »

Two 2500 tankers

Id be assuming the slurry was pure water.
2300 gallon hispec here and the best i managed with it was 3 loads an hour in thickish slurry in a draw beside the yard.
She was able to fill a load of water in 3 minutes . Slurry took 5 minutes or more.

20-06-2020 2:48am

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Major make a 3100 on single axle.
Know of 2 not far from me

Afaik hispec do a 3000 gallon on a single axel too

Reggie. · 20-06-2020 7:30am

9935452 wrote: »

Id be assuming the slurry was pure water.
2300 gallon hispec here and the best i managed with it was 3 loads an hour in thickish slurry in a draw beside the yard.
She was able to fill a load of water in 3 minutes . Slurry took 5 minutes or more.

Was out of a tower. One tanker had a mocha and I had the dribble bars. You would be nearly empty quicker than you load

New slurry tank with dribble bar prices

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