Leo is autistic...allegedly

Naggdefy · 28-01-2020 6:08pm

Venom wrote: »

A collection of some of Catherine Noone's "special moments".

https://twitter.com/diarmuidhayes/status/1222126983636758528?s=09

Her sense of entitlement regarding all Ireland final tickets, no thought for fans who go to league matches and club matches etc.

And the sheer waste of printing and not using 82,000 leaflets. What a useless burden on the state.

odyssey06 · 28-01-2020 6:24pm

I'm only half following the news... I think she's just reacting to the deletrious effects of Leo's massive illegal drug use.

*this message may be garbled*

buried · 28-01-2020 6:43pm

Fine Gael

The party of lol and order

skooterblue2 · 28-01-2020 6:48pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Will Leo get the sympathy votes now

Is Aspergers the term more than Autism?

The term "Aspergers" is gone technically (under DSM 5) but re incorporated into Autism Spectrum Disorder as many people may have one or more conditions going on. I am not saying I agree with this umbrella term and most people retain their Autism diagnosis. The problem is when one description covers all. So employers cannot differentiate between former Aspergers and something like Prader Willi's syndrome (massive difference and nothing remotely alike) because one term covers everything.

Being an Apehole and having Aspergers are two different things. Aspergers can have psychotherapy to cope with an NT world. Apeholes like Leo need a kick where the sun dont shine.

marieholmfan · 28-01-2020 6:48pm

Tony EH wrote: »

LOL, a gay, autistic, Indian.

Eoin O'Duffy will be roiling in his grave like the hadron collider.

He's a half Indian.

BadTurtle · 28-01-2020 6:54pm

golfball37 wrote: »

She meant his empathy skills, don't deflect. The voters will have their say on her ultimately. If the Twitter nazis had their way nobody would be allowed stand for election.

Pretty sure the nazis are the lads who think it's ok to treat anyone outside of a specific set of norms as worthy of looking down upon.

whisky_galore · 28-01-2020 6:57pm

Failed politician in foot-in-mouth gaffe, yawn.

Naggdefy · 28-01-2020 6:58pm

I think Little Miss No One is lucky it was Leo she called autistic.

Could you imagine if she said Eamon Ryan, RBB, Pearse Doherty, Dara Callery etc

banie01 · 28-01-2020 7:01pm

Xertz wrote: »

All I know is that diagram above set off my migraines! Clashing colours, chaotic design, comic sans. it has it all!

It's the official font of Fine Gael :P

gmisk · 28-01-2020 7:02pm

Edgware wrote: »

Do we want this man with his finger on the button?

On what button?
What annoys you the most?
The gay thing or his Indian heritage?

odyssey06 · 28-01-2020 7:03pm

Naggdefy wrote: »

I think Little Miss No One is lucky it was Leo she called autistic. Could you imagine if she said Eamon Ryan, RBB, Pearse Doherty, Dara Callery etc

Or if Peter Casey had made a similar gaffe.

Itssoeasy · 28-01-2020 7:03pm

She put her foot in it with the autism remark but when contacted by the Irish times and she tried to repair the damage, which brain cell in her head decided that using the N word on the record was a good idea ? People in general need to engage their brains before they talk in this country.

Naggdefy · 28-01-2020 7:10pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

She put her foot in it with the autism remark but when contacted by the Irish times and she tried to repair the damage, which brain cell in her head decided that using the N word on the record was a good idea ? People in general need to engage their brains before they talk in this country.

She's lacking in basic cop on. Unfit for public office.

gmisk · 28-01-2020 7:12pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

She put her foot in it with the autism remark but when contacted by the Irish times and she tried to repair the damage, which brain cell in her head decided that using the N word on the record was a good idea ? People in general need to engage their brains before they talk in this country.

I think the fact she denied saying it....then couldn't as it was recorded is almost as damning

kowloon · 28-01-2020 7:20pm

givyjoe wrote: »

She said nagger :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrpr8ao5NmU

Itssoeasy · 28-01-2020 7:20pm

Naggdefy wrote: »

She's lacking in basic cop on. Unfit for public office.

If having no cop on was a prerequisite for public office the dail chamber would be empty.

Naggdefy · 28-01-2020 7:21pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

If having no cop on was a prerequisite for public office the dail chamber would be empty.

There's varying degrees..on the spectrum, so to speak.

skooterblue2 · 28-01-2020 7:24pm

gmisk wrote: »

On what button?
What annoys you the most?
The gay thing or his Indian heritage?

Lack of empathy for Irish voters, less well off financially, older voters, and hatred of the working class, maybe more so?

sdanseo · 28-01-2020 7:25pm

My concern would be there's a parliamentarian walking the earth that appears to be less intelligent than Donald Trump. What sort of special breed of stupid does one have to be to counter the accusation of using an offensive remark by giving an example of a more offensive remark, in the presence of journalists no less??

Think it's a bit of a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Lack of empathy for Irish voters, less well off financially, older voters, and hatred of the working class, maybe more so?

To be fair to Leo, his hatred is of scroungers not the working class. A distinction that is very sadly not made enough.

mikemac2 · 28-01-2020 7:28pm

That wan is a wagon

She ran in Dublin West as Varadkars running mate and did badly. She pushed to get that nomination by playing the 30% female quota card, it helped

After a few hours of counting it was clear she would be eliminated early but she didn’t thank her team or the 1,100 voters who supported her

She put in Twitter that Dublin West was for socialists and she never had a chance.

On yer way so :rolleyes:

Also known for joining with Michelle Mulherin and moaning in the media that they couldn’t get Croke Park tickets for their beloved Mayo that they watch maybe once a year

Itssoeasy · 28-01-2020 7:28pm

Naggdefy wrote: »

There's varying degrees..on the spectrum, so to speak.

Oh well done tying the autism back into it.

Naggdefy · 28-01-2020 7:30pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Oh well done tying the autism back into it.

It's so easy

gmisk · 28-01-2020 7:31pm

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Lack of empathy for Irish voters, less well off financially, older voters, and hatred of the working class, maybe more so?

My response was to the below

Leo will be delighted with this. First ethnicity, then sexuality and now he can add autism to his portfolio. Truly a Taoiseach for 21st century Ireland!

i.e. Nothing whatsoever was in that post which I responded to, to do with his performance in job.

jay1988 · 28-01-2020 7:35pm

She's in my constituency and i have a son with severe autism, she won't be getting my vote anyway, not because of what she said, I don't have much of a problem with that, but because she was at the door the other night and could barely string a sentence together, hadn't a clue what to say when questioned on disability services and assessment waiting times, she's only in there to try ride on the coat tails of Richard Bruton who would be quite popular in the area.

Sleeper12 · 28-01-2020 7:55pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote:

Should she step down?

No. Leo should. He forgave her even though she originally denied saying it & only apologised when The Times produced a recording of her making the comment.

Leo is too soft. He thought taking Maria Bailey of some committees was punishment enough for putting in a bogus claim

AckwelFoley · 28-01-2020 7:57pm

Autism has quite a wide range from severe to high function. They scale it from 1 to 5 at diagnosis.

I know someone that has met Leo and interviewed him and he was what was described to me as socially awkward.

My son has Autism, I'm not offended by her remarks, others may be, and I accept that, but there are some incredible people with Autism, and personally i dont think she meant it as any form of slur, rather, that he is perhaps.more socially awkward and has to work harder at it

odyssey06 · 28-01-2020 8:09pm

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Lack of empathy for Irish voters, less well off financially, older voters, and hatred of the working class, maybe more so?

No he doesn't hate the working class. Hatred would show a higher degree of engagement. They just don't count for him.

BENDYBINN · 28-01-2020 8:18pm

gmisk wrote: »

On what button?
What annoys you the most?
The gay thing or his Indian heritage?

No, it’s the Taoiseach thing.

Snickers Man · 28-01-2020 8:19pm

brightspark wrote: »

"We" are not all on the spectrum.

It's called a spectrum because of the range of issues varies from one person with autism to another. e.g. some are non-verbal, some aren't, some are hypersensitive to noise some are not, some are hypersensitive to light some are not.....

Depends where your starting and end points on the "spectrum" are, doesn't it?

Spectrum: ..."entire range of anything, arranged by degree, quality, etc"
O.E.D.

BeerWolf · 28-01-2020 8:28pm

The spectrum has been so broadened to the point everyone has some form of autism seemingly...

Want to be alone? Autistic
Too sociable? Autistic
Whatever? AUTISTIC!!

ThewhiteJesus · 28-01-2020 8:56pm

marieholmfan wrote: »

He's a half Indian.

The gay half ?

brightspark · 28-01-2020 8:59pm

Snickers Man wrote: »

Depends where your starting and end points on the "spectrum" are, doesn't it?

Spectrum: ..."entire range of anything, arranged by degree, quality, etc"
O.E.D.

If you want to be pedantic then "spectrum" is also an 8 bit computer from the 1980s

However in the context of autism it has the following meaning.

A spectrum disorder is a mental disorder that includes a range of linked conditions, sometimes also extending to include singular symptoms and traits. The different elements of a spectrum either have a similar appearance or are thought to be caused by the same underlying mechanism. In either case, a spectrum approach is taken because there appears to be "not a unitary disorder but rather a syndrome composed of subgroups". The spectrum may represent a range of severity, comprising relatively "severe" mental disorders through to relatively "mild and nonclinical deficits".

In basic terms there are a variety of traits that may or may not be present to various degrees, if you have autism.

There are established guidelines used to provide a diagnosis of ASD.
Having some similar traits does not put you on the "spectrum" of autism.

https://depts.washington.edu/dbpeds/Screening%20Tools/DSM-5%28ASD.Guidelines%29Feb2013.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_disorder

Edgware · 28-01-2020 9:02pm

gmisk wrote: »

On what button?
What annoys you the most?
The gay thing or his Indian heritage?

His plans for garbage disposal

Edgware · 28-01-2020 9:04pm

marieholmfan wrote: »

He's a half Indian.

Commanche or Apache?

Sleeper12 · 28-01-2020 9:06pm

ThewhiteJesus wrote:

The gay half ?

Don't think you can be half gay. That would be bisexual I believe.

cj maxx · 28-01-2020 9:11pm

I don't think she said anything wrong and should not have apologised to him. Or to the autism association either.

poisonated · 28-01-2020 9:12pm

Marhay70 wrote: »

True, I suppose. His tendency to continually lie through his teeth every time he opens his mouth might be a form of OCD.

Clearly you do not have much of an understanding of OCD

Galwayguy35 · 28-01-2020 9:13pm

She is being ripped a new one over on Twitter, looks like her career as a politican has crashed and burned in about 24 hours!

She has about as much hope of winning the lotto as getting elected now and I doubt there will be a nice cushy seat in the Senate waiting for her this time round.

Doesn't look like she would be much good as a solicitor either if she decided to go back to her old job seeing as she seems to be as thick as 2 short planks.

Plumbthedepths · 28-01-2020 9:20pm

Edgware wrote: »

Commanche or Apache?

He's half American now?

odyssey06 · 28-01-2020 9:28pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

He's half American now?

I think "lame duck" originates as a phrase in American politics, so in that sense, yes

LETHAL LADY · 28-01-2020 9:35pm

Maybe it's because my daughter only received her diagnosis of ASD earlier this month, after over a two year wait for assessment and all the stress that goes with it, but her comments really upset me today.
Fingers crossed that this wan will disappear up her own hole after failing to be elected again come February 8th.

puppieperson1 · 28-01-2020 9:37pm

Leo is not autistic though he does display the traits of one being uncomfortable and unable to show real empathy.

I think he is more of a sociopath, hes living in a racist country as a mixed race man and also a homosexual man in a catholic country. So in general he is uncomfortable being the leader in a country that has many prejudices and he is a lot of them.

The guy is leading us but cant stand us really, a professional politician doing his time here to eventually reap the benefits in Europe where he can live it up with a huge pension from us !

Big Ears · 28-01-2020 9:52pm

puppieperson1 wrote: »

Leo is not autistic though he does display the traits of one being uncomfortable and unable to show real empathy.

I think he is more of a sociopath, hes living in a racist country as a mixed race man and also a homosexual man in a catholic country. So in general he is uncomfortable being the leader in a country that has many prejudices and he is a lot of them.

The guy is leading us but cant stand us really, a professional politician doing his time here to eventually reap the benefits in Europe where he can live it up with a huge pension from us !

While there's undoubtedly racist people in this country, spending time in other European countries will highlight we're not too bad in that regard.
As a whole I certainly wouldn't define Ireland as 'racist'.

Also this was the first country to vote in favour of gay marriage. Yes others had enacted it well before Ireland through legislation, but it required a referendum here, and received a large majority from the electorate in favour of enabling it.
There is also a large decline of those reporting as Catholic at every census.
Catholicism is still very much the main religion in a country, but in truth it's no longer a Catholic country, and if anything the fact an openly gay man is Taoiseach of the country is evidence of that in itself.

brightspark · 28-01-2020 9:57pm

puppieperson1 wrote: »

Leo is not autistic though he does display the traits of one being uncomfortable and unable to show real empathy.

I think he is more of a sociopath, hes living in a racist country as a mixed race man and also a homosexual man in a catholic country. So in general he is uncomfortable being the leader in a country that has many prejudices and he is a lot of them.

The guy is leading us but cant stand us really, a professional politician doing his time here to eventually reap the benefits in Europe where he can live it up with a huge pension from us !

It's more likely that he is a psychopath (not that I am saying he is or isn't)

"Research conducted by the University of Oxford psychologist Kevin Dutton found ten professions with an unusually high proportion of psychopaths: chief executive officers, lawyers, television and radio news anchors and analysts, salespersons, surgeons, journalists, police officers, clergy, chefs, civil servants.

While “politician” is not on that list, elected politicians often emerge from some of the professions listed, such as lawyer, CEO, and civil servant."

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/are-politicians-actual-psychopaths/

brightspark · 28-01-2020 10:02pm

Big Ears wrote: »

While there's undoubtedly racist people in this country, spending time in other European countries will highlight we're not too bad in that regard.
As a whole I certainly wouldn't define Ireland as 'racist'.....

.

There was a study recently that said "we" are

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ireland-has-worrying-pattern-of-racism-head-of-eu-agency-warns-1.4032957

I think that it is more subtle here, but that doesn't mean good.

Foreigners are welcomed when they holiday here and spend money, but it's different when they stay, taking jobs etc.

GreenandRed · 28-01-2020 10:11pm

marieholmfan wrote: »

He's a half Indian.

Dots or feathers? More Cowboy than Indian.

GreenandRed · 28-01-2020 10:17pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

She is being ripped a new one over on Twitter, looks like her career as a politican has crashed and burned in about 24 hours!

She has about as much hope of winning the lotto as getting elected now and I doubt there will be a nice cushy seat in the Senate waiting for her this time round.

Doesn't look like she would be much good as a solicitor either if she decided to go back to her old job seeing as she seems to be as thick as 2 short planks.

She's not stupid. Just not one bit streetwise enough to be in that game.

28-01-2020 10:28pm

He loved sewing it into the British empire while licking europes hole and one has to wonder why?? India and GREAT Britain have horrible history and lets not get started on England and Ireland..make no mistake there's a loathing antipathy there for all things british.

As far as the closer to home stuff, he must be thinking, thank got I'm gay, looking at the plethora of EX Apprentice gals he has rallied around him, falling off swings and slaggin the handicapped!! what a joke of a new era !!

Feisar · 28-01-2020 10:29pm

GreenandRed wrote: »

Dots or feathers? More Cowboy than Indian.

Moosajee Bhamjee, the original Indian among all the cowboys!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moosajee_Bhamjee

jay1988 · 28-01-2020 10:30pm

rusty cole wrote: »

He loved sewing it into the British empire while licking europes hole and one has to wonder why?? India and GREAT Britain have horrible history and lets not get started on England and Ireland..make no mistake there's a loathing antipathy there for all things british.

As far as the closer to home stuff, he must be thinking, thank got I'm gay, looking at the plethora of EX Apprentice gals he has rallied around him, falling off swings and slaggin the handicapped!! what a joke of a new era !!

Oh the irony!

Leo is autistic...allegedly

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