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  • Registered Users Posts: 27 Skylined.94


    Following Ireland's loss yesterday they have lost 10th place to Zimbabwe in the ODI table and no matter what happens in the final game on Tuesday they will be desperate to keep the gap to just two points. Defeat and we'll l drop below Afghanistan into 12th!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Pakistan scraped a measly 523 for 8 before declaring against England.



    Edit: England finish the day 56 without loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Off for a couple of days and was looking forward to the Pakistan vs England Test. Man it's bore fest , slow wicket, nothing for the spinners either..slower outfield.. No value for shots so it's all ones and twos almost off every second ball.. Turgid stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Strumms wrote: »
    Off for a couple of days and was looking forward to the Pakistan vs England Test. Man it's bore fest , slow wicket, nothing for the spinners either..slower outfield.. No value for shots so it's all ones and twos almost off every second ball.. Turgid stuff.

    Turgid is kind! Cook has ground out a nice century. Horrible game though. Waste of time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Cricket fan


    Really dont know why the ICC dont heavily fine curators for producing flat decks. Gotten ridiculous these days


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Have a sneaky suspicion this game might just end in a draw. Bold statement I know, but just have a feeling.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Have a sneaky suspicion this game might just end in a draw. Bold statement I know, but just have a feeling.
    Any newbie tuning in to this match might think each team only bats once


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Laughably the sports muppet on bbc breakfast this morning was talking up a possible England victory. I sat there, waiting to see the scorecard showing 6 or 7 down. At that point they had taken 2 wickets. 2 whole wickets. Currently they have 3. Need to put their foot down for a result now I think.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭nompere


    And now they have all ten - and perhaps an hour to chase 99.

    Maybe he wasn't a muppet?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    nompere wrote: »
    And now they have all ten - and perhaps an hour to chase 99.

    Maybe he wasn't a muppet?

    Only one muppet and not the sports man on TV! Humble pie gladly eaten if England win, utter madness. Think the light will do them though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭nompere


    I remember some years ago that England were chasing down a smallish target in Pakistan, and Pakistan were indulging in time-wasting tactics.

    Steve Bucknor, a very strong umpire, refused to concede that the light was too bad until England had won. It finished in near darkness.

    I wonder if the umpires today will do similar?

    13 for 0 off 10 balls as I write.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    nompere wrote: »
    I remember some years ago that England were chasing down a smallish target in Pakistan, and Pakistan were indulging in time-wasting tactics.

    Steve Bucknor, a very strong umpire, refused to concede that the light was too bad until England had won. It finished in near darkness.

    I wonder if the umpires today will do similar?

    13 for 0 off 10 balls as I write.

    Nassar Hussein was captain, or playing at least(I think?) . Pitch dark by the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭nompere


    Nassar Hussein was captain, or playing at least(I think?) . Pitch dark by the end.

    Indeed - now linked on the Cricinfo commentary: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/63901.html


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,514 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    nompere wrote: »

    I wonder if the umpires today will do similar?

    Rules in those days were different and the batsmen could ask to stay on (although the fielding team could and indeed did make representations to go off)

    Presume the umpires have taken light measurements on previous days - if so they already have a benchmank they should observe


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,514 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Although at this rate Pakistan could be pleading to stay on....

    35-3


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭nompere


    Beasty wrote: »
    Rules in those days were different and the batsmen could ask to stay on (although the fielding team could and indeed did make representations to go off)

    Presume the umpires have taken light measurements on previous days - if so they already have a benchmank they should observe

    That game was played under the 2000 code of laws, and the state of the light was in the sole discretion of the umpires, and neither side had any say in the matter. It's the same now. Bucknor was showing his disapproval of the time-wasting tactics.

    But yes - they do have a benchmark (from yesterday) and neither of them is another Steve Bucknor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Wow 4 days of boredom practically and now this. Amazing. I feel unless England can start hitting boundaries now quickly the light and these delaying tactics of Pakistan will beat them. You definitely wint see any Steve Bucknor like umpiring, as earlier said the rules are different now which in a way is a shame.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Knew it'd be a draw, never in doubt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Beasty wrote: »
    Rules in those days were different and the batsmen could ask to stay on (although the fielding team could and indeed did make representations to go off)

    Presume the umpires have taken light measurements on previous days - if so they already have a benchmank they should observe

    Exactly. I understand the annoyance but their has to be consistency.

    The other issue, while England understandably were desperate to keep playing, after the Hughes tragedy, umpires are right not to be taking chances. Riaz is probably the fastest bowler in the world, wouldn't want to be facing his thunderbolts in the dark.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Thanks to a traditional English batting collapse in the first innings, they are in a tough battle now to save the test, 7 wickets for 30 odd runs. Classic England.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Afghanistan showing Ireland how it's done, won the 50 over series 3-2 and also the first T20, what effect does this have on the rankings?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    Big third day in Sharjah..England out for only 306 having looked well placed to get a big lead and Pakistan 146/3 in 2nd innings


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Pakistan lead approaching 250, 7 wickets down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    England set 284 to win, tough enough batting last on that wicket I'd think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    England 60 for 6, fair to say they are highly likely to lose the series 2 nil.

    Meanwhile in first Aus v NZ Test, hosts are 300 plus for 2. Warner made 163.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    All over, England lose by 127 runs. Shocking in the field yesterday, pretty crap with the bat today. Got what they deserved.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    18 collapses from 25 tests according to Boycott. Cook and Anderson are in great form though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭markbrop


    England were absolutely dire in this series. I'm pretty sure they would have lost 3-0 if Yasir Shah had played in the First Test. The continued omission of Kevin Pietersen is beyond a joke. Did anyone see his brilliant hundred in the SA Ram Slam.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Some interesting cricket going on at the moment, India -SA, the Aussies hammering the NZers and England finally fighting back against Pakistan


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Mitchell Johnson is retiring from International Cricket after the current test. Some bowler on his day, one of the best modern day quicks, also prone to some stinkers though, hence the song "He bowls to the left etc."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Compelling to watch, when bad, really bad, but when on, absolutely unplayable.

    The Ashes in 2013 he was absolutely unplayable, but for me I will always love those 2 series in South Africa where he was so on.

    First series he put Smith and Kallis in hospital ffs. :eek:

    His spell at the centurion in 2014 was one of the most remarkable of this era. South Africa's fortress and they were slaughtered. That day he sped up the retirement of Smith considerably, and owned the top order.

    http://tune.pk/video/2340088/mitchell-johnson-768-vs-south-africa-2014-hd

    1.40, I mean seriously, that ball to Faf is absolute sex, how the hell do you play that? Poor Mc Claren and Robbie P towards the end got decimated by him.

    Although ABDV the absolute freak that he is, was somehow able to play him as if it was a medium pacer.:P

    Struggled in England and Asia which means he won't ever be considered an ATG, but still a big loss for the neutrals, especially as he was one of the few Aussie players that actually seemed like a decent bloke.:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Good series win for England. Buttler has been superb and Roy got his first ton today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭booth70


    Mixed reaction to the Nagpur wicket!!!!!

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-south-africa-2015-16/content/story/944207.html

    Agree with Jimmy Neesham though......I'd rather watch this than the 550 plays 650 farce that happened in Perth

    Chance for ABD to transcend to another level if he can produce something special in Nagpur tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    2 teams who are poor against spin collapsing on a turning wicket, the outrage is utterly absurd.

    Nobody blamed the conditions when Australia were blown away in England, instead focusing on the batsmen. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Didn't watch live but reading reports it looks like Nigel Long had a shocker as 3rd umpire in Aus NZ test. Clear hot spot on Nathan Lyons bat, who saw the hot spot on big screen replay and was virtually back to the pavilion, when Long told on field umpire to call it not out. Aussies added another 100 odd after that to get out of big trouble.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,768 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Incredible super over there between England and Pakistan. Chris Jordan bowled a quality over and limited Pakistan to 3-1. Morgan and Buttler took a tense 5 balls to get the required 4 runs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Incredible super over there between England and Pakistan. Chris Jordan bowled a quality over and limited Pakistan to 3-1. Morgan and Buttler took a tense 5 balls to get the required 4 runs.

    Fantastic, and I was moaning away about giving the over to Jordan to bowl. Good 3 nil series win for England.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭booth70


    Another hammering looms for SA in the 4th Test

    So much for their away record in recent years ..... This must be the worst team to tour India in the last decade or so ..... Even worse than the Aussie side from a few years ago

    Despite this don't think India can take anything more from the series than the statistic of another home series win on spinning dust bowls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭markbrop


    Yes another very poor effort from SA. Vilas looks terrible. How on earth is he getting his game ahead of De Kock? The openers dont look any great shakes either. They may have KP in two years time though!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Hopefully we get some more whining about this pitch as well. :pac:


    We won't be seeing Vilas again unless an injury crisis. South Africa have not shown much fight which is shocking when you consider their overseas record. Amla and Faf both have stunk the place out and the rest bar AB not good enough whatsoever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭markbrop


    How do you think they will fare against England?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    markbrop wrote: »
    How do you think they will fare against England?

    I just seen the betting odds and they are strong favorites, 8/13 to win the series top price.:eek:

    No thanks.:eek:

    If they get the fast bowlers fit, they probably win the series, but it will be close. England with the likes of Broad. Anderson and Finn will adore bowling in South Africa. At least one of Faf or Amla will have to step up hugely though,they can't rely on ABDV all the time to get runs.

    Will be a cracking series though.:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭booth70


    Agree it should be a good series.....while SA were hopeless in India the conditions back home will be entirely different and if they can get Steyn fit it will be a visual feast to savour between 2 good bowling attacks.....after their recent scores in Pakistan and India can't say much about the batters from both the teams bar ABD for the moment!! :pac:

    Looking forward to the series......should be a close one and a good one to watch:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Enough is enough with Rohit,defended him a lot and still think he has to lot to offer in limited overs cricket, but he does not deserve a test place at the moment. Its time for Rahul or Iyer to get a chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭markbrop


    "England with the likes of Broad. Anderson and Finn will adore bowling in South Africa"

    I think Finn is injured as is Wood. Footitt has not played test cricket and I dont rate Jordan or Woakes as test bowlers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Don't think Finn has been ruled out just yet, but yeah a massive doubt.

    Plunkett not been picked for South Africa is just bizarre.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭booth70


    SA 118/5 in 130 overs
    ABD 39 from 270

    32 overs to survive

    Mind numbing blocking of monumental proportions going on in New Delhi ......SA have shown great resilience .... Would have actually made for some enthralling viewing if the series had already not been decided


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭markbrop


    "Don't think Finn has been ruled out just yet, but yeah a massive doubt.

    Plunkett not been picked for South Africa is just bizarre."

    Plunkett could have played for us - both of his parents are Irish!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    As expected West Indies out of their depth against Australia, this series seems to exist solely for the Aussie boys to boost their stats.

    It should have been NZ getting the boxing day test, not this rabble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭markbrop


    Yes the Windies are really poor in Test Cricket at the moment but dont be surprised if they win the T20 World Cup.


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