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Company requires smartphone for clocking in

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    #32
    petros1980
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭petros1980


    jimmycrackcorm wrote: »
    I totally take your word for this.
    No they won't be buying your wife a shiny new phone.

    Such a funny response, dope :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    OP - the easy answer is no they can't force your wife to buy a smartphone any more than they could force her to buy anything else


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    #33
    tomwaits48
    Registered Users Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Such a bizarre set up. It's so easy to spoof your location.

    how?


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    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 38,972 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    tomwaits48 wrote: »
    how?
    https://tinyurl.com/y583v8ht


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    #35
    Glass fused light
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Glass fused light


    LeBash wrote: »
    I'm fairly sure your wife could explain that she doesnt have a smart phone and could email her hours when she has finished or call in the hours.

    My guess is it's just used as a Proof of Delivery of service in a way. They will have a record of when work started and finished. It would probably be used only if the end client was querying a bill.

    Its more likely the proof of delivery.
    I have seen this introduced by a care company where proof that the staff member turnd up is a manual clock in and out from the landline number of the service receiver. So it's independently verifiable by the State if they need to by checking the phone records


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    #36
    knipex
    Registered Users Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭knipex


    Glass fused light wrote: »
    From memory this went thought the Data Protection Commissioner a few years ago the company vehicles had to have a tracker with a manual off switch that the driver controlled and the same with any IT once off the clock the employer has no basis for collecting the data, so collection or retaining it without accessing it is a breach

    Only and only if the vehicle was supplied and specified allowed to be used for personal use.

    A company vehicle that's only for company use does not require this facility..


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    Glass fused light
    Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Glass fused light


    knipex wrote: »
    Only and only if the vehicle was supplied and specified allowed to be used for personal use.

    A company vehicle that's only for company use does not require this facility..

    Yep
    Technically if the employee can nip down to the shops over lunch in a vehicle it's personal use.

    But in real life once the company expect the vehicle back in the premises at close of business and the employee finds their own way home, the company would not have to install a off switch.


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    #38
    knipex
    Registered Users Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭knipex


    Glass fused light wrote: »
    Yep
    Technically if the employee can nip down to the shops over lunch in a vehicle it's personal use.

    But in real life once the company expect the vehicle back in the premises at close of business and the employee finds their own way home, the company would not have to install a off switch.

    Absolutely not true.

    A van can be used to travel to and from place of work and not have a "switch" fitted.

    The policy on use of vehicles needs to take into account the use of trackers and specify what the vehicle can be used for. It can even allow some Limited personal use and not require the fitting of a switch. As long as everything is known, nothing is begin done in secret then there is no problem.

    Fair is fair. My employer has my address anyway so the fact that the tracker shows its at my house, so what. I don't have wear and tear and fuel on my car, can spend an extra half hour in bed in the morning and home earlier most evenings. If I need to pick up something from the hardware store or garden center or drop something to the recycling center the boss is OK about it. Then why the f**k would I make a big deal.



    On the other hand if it was a company car and I worked from home, the car was used as my main means of transport, then switch needs to be fitted.


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