Metallica Superthread -All Metallica discussion goes in here

LollipopJimmy · 28-06-2020 4:51pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I've an anonymous amount of respect for the man, not just because of his talents but more so about his openess with his struggles with addiction and mental health issues, many people in his position wouldn't be as open about such issues

Is that his house he's in? Looks fairly 'normal' and the bottom drawer in front of him broken and on the floor.

Wanderer78 · 28-06-2020 4:53pm

LollipopJimmy wrote:

Is that his house he's in? Looks fairly 'normal' and the bottom drawer in front of him broken and on the floor.

I suspect it is, he seems very grounded at times, he's very lucky his wife stuck with him, he'd be fcuked otherwise

Dyr · 28-06-2020 5:09pm

I know the guy is in his mid 50s now but by jesus he aged a lot the last few years

scudzilla · 29-06-2020 8:19pm

Bambi wrote: »

I know the guy is in his mid 50s now but by jesus he aged a lot the last few years

Look at pics of him right at start of Hardwired tour, he looks great, then forward to the last few dates, he really does look a mess, bloated and red faced, hindsight is a wonderful thing

harvester of sorrow · 29-06-2020 8:55pm

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Is that his house he's in? Looks fairly 'normal' and the bottom drawer in front of him broken and on the floor.

I think this was debated on Instagram, and supposedly it's the photographers house..?

scudzilla · 30-06-2020 1:51am

harvester of sorrow wrote: »

I think this was debated on Instagram, and supposedly it's the photographers house..?

He lives in Vail now, his kitchen is probably bigger than my gaff :pac:

Lithium93_ · 06-07-2020 7:24pm

The band posted a tribute to the late Ennio Morricone a couple of hours ago.

https://twitter.com/Metallica/status/1280147408513404930

PTH2009 · 06-07-2020 7:27pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

The band posted a tribute to the late Ennio Morricone a couple of hours ago.

https://twitter.com/Metallica/status/1280147408513404930

one of the best Intro songs of all time

did they always have it, didnt they drop it for the 1996/1997 tour ?

feylya · 06-07-2020 7:35pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

one of the best Intro songs of all time

did they always have it, didnt they drop it for the 1996/1997 tour ?

Seems that way from what I can see on Setlist. It also lead me to the Cunning Stunts gig https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/metallica/1997/tarrant-county-convention-center-fort-worth-tx-73d6da0d.html Couple of songs done twice in succession. Wonder what the crowd thought of that.

Degag · 06-07-2020 7:53pm

feylya wrote: »

Seems that way from what I can see on Setlist. It also lead me to the Cunning Stunts gig https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/metallica/1997/tarrant-county-convention-center-fort-worth-tx-73d6da0d.html Couple of songs done twice in succession. Wonder what the crowd thought of that.

Still got 18 unique songs discounting the medley and bass doodles so while strange, doubt anyone cared too much.

Wanderer78 · 06-07-2020 8:04pm

feylya wrote:

Couple of songs done twice in succession. Wonder what the crowd thought of that.

Double takes would be common for recordings, crowd probably would have been pre warned. I've been at a couple of recordings, warnings of double takes were given before the recording

feylya · 06-07-2020 10:22pm

Ah, I get that it was a cracking setlist, and I get that double takes are common, but I imagine it's hard to go Horray the second time Lars goes "dun dun, dun dun, bum" for Bells when you've just finished listening to it. I guess that's why they do 2 nights nowadays.

Wanderer78 · 06-07-2020 10:27pm

feylya wrote:

Ah, I get that it was a cracking setlist, and I get that double takes are common, but I imagine it's hard to go Horray the second time Lars goes "dun dun, dun dun, bum" for Bells when you've just finished listening to it. I guess that's why they do 2 nights nowadays.

The power of editing, rarely shows up in my experience, crowds can sometimes be louder on second takes, as we were encouraged to do so, and people were. it would be interesting to experience a major production like this though, I only experienced small Micky mouse things

feylya · 06-07-2020 10:40pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

The power of editing, rarely shows up in my experience, crowds can sometimes be louder on second takes, as we were encouraged to do so, and people were. it would be interesting to experience a major production like this though, I only experienced small Micky mouse things

Oh editing is a wonderful thing. I can still pick out the differences between S&M2 when it was in the cinema, vs what I saw though. I'm just wondering about tracks from Load, given that album's reception, and the crowd being told "We ****ed it up. Let's go again"

Wanderer78 · 06-07-2020 10:45pm

feylya wrote:

Oh editing is a wonderful thing. I can still pick out the differences between S&M2 when it was in the cinema, vs what I saw though. I'm just wondering about tracks from Load, given that album's reception, and the crowd being told "We ****ed it up. Let's go again"

I wouldn't notice jack ****, my eye wouldn't be that good. Load tour was actually my first ever gig, haven't listened to the album in years, but I do like it, admire them for taking big chances

D.Q · 07-07-2020 4:10pm

Ecstasy of gold into Blackened in 04 was my first experience of Metallica live and is still untouched as a intro.

PTH2009 · 07-07-2020 8:56pm

D.Q wrote: »

Ecstasy of gold into Blackened in 04 was my first experience of Metallica live and is still untouched as a intro.

yeah it was the same for the 2009 Marley Park show, my first experience was Ecstasy of gold into Creeping Death in the same venue in 2008

Its a handy intro as its an indication of move your ass (from the bar, bathrooms etc) the show is starting

Mushy · 07-07-2020 8:59pm

D.Q wrote: »

Ecstasy of gold into Blackened in 04 was my first experience of Metallica live and is still untouched as a intro.

Ecstasy into Battery the year before. Crunching stuff

PTH2009 · 07-07-2020 9:05pm

out of the 4 times ive seen them im still yet to hear 'Battery' 'Fuel' and 'Of Wolf And Man' live

Degag · 07-07-2020 9:21pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

out of the 4 times ive seen them im still yet to hear 'Battery' 'Fuel' and 'Of Wolf And Man' live

Latter one hardly surprising?

Have seen em three times and Fight Fire With Fire, Fade to Black & Blackened not amongst the songs:eek:

Jayesdiem · 07-07-2020 10:43pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

out of the 4 times ive seen them im still yet to hear 'Battery' 'Fuel' and 'Of Wolf And Man' live

Similar, been three times, never heard Battery, Roam or Fade to Black. But have heard Clover which I thought was weird. Just watching these Metallica Monday gigs, James dropped a lot of F-Bombs mid-song long after I had thought he’d stopped in my mind. Seems he still liked a fcuk or sh1t well into this decade. When did that all stop (other than when the lyrics call for it)?

scudzilla · 07-07-2020 10:47pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

yeah it was the same for the 2009 Marley Park show, my first experience was Ecstasy of gold into Creeping Death in the same venue in 2008

Its a handy intro as its an indication of move your ass (from the bar, bathrooms etc) the show is starting

Surely that would be this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sUXMzkh-jI

lord lucan · 07-07-2020 11:07pm

scudzilla wrote: »

Surely that would be this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sUXMzkh-jI

That's the one, you're doing it wrong if you're waiting for TEOG!

scudzilla · 07-07-2020 11:21pm

lord lucan wrote: »

That's the one, you're doing it wrong if you're waiting for TEOG!

Didn't they change this to a Saxon song for a few tours??

In response to someone a fw posts up, they dropped 'Ecstacy' on the Load tour (Indoor), seen them 4 times indoors on this tour and always missed Ecstacy, didn't like how they just wandered on stage with full house lights on, maybe that was just me

lord lucan · 08-07-2020 12:08am

scudzilla wrote: »

Didn't they change this to a Saxon song for a few tours??

In response to someone a fw posts up, they dropped 'Ecstacy' on the Load tour (Indoor), seen them 4 times indoors on this tour and always missed Ecstacy, didn't like how they just wandered on stage with full house lights on, maybe that was just me

They used Heavy Metal Thunder by Saxon during the World Magnetic tour but went back to Long Way after. It's still funny to watch the die hards start buzzing when it comes on and everyone else is just chatting and taking selfies!

Missed TEOG during the Poor Touring Me era,it was strange to see them just stroll on stage and play half of the first song with the house lights on. Maybe the band just wanted a break from the usual routine but ultimately I think they missed the usual intro to a Metallica show and have never repeated it.

scudzilla · 08-07-2020 1:05am

lord lucan wrote: »

They used Heavy Metal Thunder by Saxon during the World Magnetic tour but went back to Long Way after. It's still funny to watch the die hards start buzzing when it comes on and everyone else is just chatting and taking selfies!

Missed TEOG during the Poor Touring Me era,it was strange to see them just stroll on stage and play half of the first song with the house lights on. Maybe the band just wanted a break from the usual routine but ultimately I think they missed the usual intro to a Metallica show and have never repeated it.

yeah, it's mad when Long way comes on and pockets of people everywhere go nuts and, like you say, others just chatting away.

Funniest i think was GnR at Slane, Looney Tunes intro comes on and our group of 6 went nuts, getting real strange looks from everyone around us :pac::pac:

Ash.J.Williams · 08-07-2020 10:43am

long way, TEOG- and then battery or blackend is enough to give a heart attack of excitement

i'm not big into consistency but that's one sequence of events i want kept the way it is!

gerrybbadd · 08-07-2020 12:03pm

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Similar, been three times, never heard Battery, Roam or Fade to Black. But have heard Clover which I thought was weird. Just watching these Metallica Monday gigs, James dropped a lot of F-Bombs mid-song long after I had thought he’d stopped in my mind. Seems he still liked a fcuk or sh1t well into this decade. When did that all stop (other than when the lyrics call for it)?

Hetfield lost a lot of that anger he put forth on stage, calmed his energy a bit. Instead now we get The Metallica Family etc, and it's cringe.

I noticed in seeing them live however, a lot of the OOhs, AAhs, Fúcks etc, they were all in the exact same places in songs. Not that they were rehearsed, but had become part of the routine.

Ash.J.Williams · 08-07-2020 12:06pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

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Hetfield lost a lot of that anger he put forth on stage, calmed his energy a bit. Instead now we get The Metallica Family etc, and it's cringe.

I noticed in seeing them live however, a lot of the OOhs, AAhs, Fúcks etc, they were all in the exact same places in songs. Not that they were rehearsed, but had become part of the routine.

when you have as many women (young and older) in your life as james does, you would get pulled up a lot on things like langauge!

gerrybbadd · 08-07-2020 12:08pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

when you have as many women (young and older) in your life as james does, you would get pulled up a lot on things like langauge!

Exactly, and I think the guys tend to have their kids backstage with them too, listening to the shows.

I remember one gig in the RDS (I think), it was a kids birthday, and Het brought the child out so we could sing happy birthday

Wanderer78 · 08-07-2020 12:09pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

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Hetfield lost a lot of that anger he put forth on stage, calmed his energy a bit. Instead now we get The Metallica Family etc, and it's cringe.

I noticed in seeing them live however, a lot of the OOhs, AAhs, Fúcks etc, they were all in the exact same places in songs. Not that they were rehearsed, but had become part of the routine.

it is a bit cringe alright, but i think it shows where he is in life, i.e. a much happier and better place

a part of being a musician is acting

grames_bond · 08-07-2020 12:53pm

I have seen Tallica 7 times by this stage and I have STILL not seen hit the lights which for me is heart breaking - always seemed to play it on the tour around the same time as the gig I was going to but never at the one I was at.

When they had the Kill em all section on the World Magnetic tour I was sure they would do it in slane, then that whole section got cut...….pricks :pac:

Wanderer78 · 08-07-2020 1:50pm

must look back at the setlists i have seen, memory is hazy at this stage

jack presley · 08-07-2020 2:01pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

long way, TEOG- and then battery or blackend is enough to give a heart attack of excitement

i'm not big into consistency but that's one sequence of events i want kept the way it is!

I prefer an opener like Creeping Death after TEOG. One that just bursts in after the intro tape finished. Blackened has the slow build up and battery has the acoustic bit, both which are done by second intro tape so you're going intro tape, intro tape then song.

klose · 08-07-2020 5:01pm

Did they ever play fight fire with fire as an intro? Heavy as sin that one.

Degag · 08-07-2020 6:01pm

klose wrote: »

Did they ever play fight fire with fire as an intro? Heavy as sin that one.

90% sure they have. Not sure how one would check though.

D.Q · 08-07-2020 11:01pm

Degag wrote: »

Latter one hardly surprising?

Have seen em three times and Fight Fire With Fire, Fade to Black & Blackened not amongst the songs:eek:

Heard wolf in 2012 at download when they were doing the full black album. The times they did the black album and MOP live ticked alot of deep cuts. Also seen them do no leaf clover and turn the page live too which were both unexpected treats.

Degag · 08-07-2020 11:19pm

D.Q wrote: »

Heard wolf in 2012 at download when they were doing the full black album. The times they did the black album and MOP live ticked alot of deep cuts. Also seen them do no leaf clover and turn the page live too which were both unexpected treats.

Yeah, saw MOP in it's entirely too. Fuel twice in three shows, TGTF and Through the Never my main rarities i think

SureYWouldntYa · 08-07-2020 11:23pm

It's far from the best song

But I like Hardwired as an intro, I love the way it gets gradually louder and louder, then they come on stage to the roar of the crowd and smash into it

scudzilla · 08-07-2020 11:41pm

All these choices as openers but this beats the lot of them hands down, straight for your throat

This was some fcukin day in Milton Keynes, damn i miss Jason, my fav ever member of the band, still see Rob as a temp stand in :pac::pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5X4RqgCByQ

PTH2009 · 09-07-2020 12:32am

scudzilla wrote: »

All these choices as openers but this beats the lot of them hands down, straight for your throat

This was some fcukin day in Milton Keynes, damn i miss Jason, my fav ever member of the band, still see Rob as a temp stand in :pac::pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5X4RqgCByQ

I wonder was James an generally anger person when he was drinking ?

Wanderer78 · 09-07-2020 8:05am

PTH2009 wrote:

I wonder was James an generally anger person when he was drinking ?

Alcoholics can be very unpleasant people, I think it's mainly self hatred, a sad state of affairs really, I'm delighted for him now, seems much happier

Ash.J.Williams · 09-07-2020 9:04am

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Exactly, and I think the guys tend to have their kids backstage with them too, listening to the shows.

I remember one gig in the RDS (I think), it was a kids birthday, and Het brought the child out so we could sing happy birthday

and by jaysus we sang it

PTH2009 · 15-07-2020 2:51am

Premeire of the Trailer for S&M2 general release the 15th July

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRCLe6_kBRc

hudsonn · 15-07-2020 2:21pm

So the S&M 2 boxset super mega-deluxe version.

There's a competition ...not to win the damn thing but to win the opportunity to buy it............ for 300 bucks!

https://www.metallica.com/contests/show/?contestID=10551

FFS! :eek:

The Nal · 15-07-2020 2:28pm

Also no Michael Kamen no party

PTH2009 · 15-07-2020 2:32pm

Ill be buying the Blu Ray

Was hoping for maybe a remastered version of S&M1 released alongside this but not to be

ELM327 · 15-07-2020 2:42pm

D.Q wrote: »

Ecstasy of gold into Blackened in 04 was my first experience of Metallica live and is still untouched as a intro.

PTH2009 wrote: »

yeah it was the same for the 2009 Marley Park show, my first experience was Ecstasy of gold into Creeping Death in the same venue in 2008

Its a handy intro as its an indication of move your ass (from the bar, bathrooms etc) the show is starting

Yes that was my second metallica gig, '09. Also went in '08.
Back in the good old days when 'tallica concerts were annual here!

Unfortunately back in the days when I went to gigs a lot of my favorites weren't played live. Would have loved to have heard the god that failed, turn the page, (cliff playing pulling teeth), outlaw torn, basically any of the songs at the end of the load album, the black album, and st anger.

greenspurs · 15-07-2020 4:37pm

ELM327 wrote: »

Yes that was my second metallica gig, '09. Also went in '08.
Back in the good old days when 'tallica concerts were annual here!

Unfortunately back in the days when I went to gigs a lot of my favorites weren't played live. Would have loved to have heard the god that failed, turn the page, (cliff playing pulling teeth), outlaw torn, basically any of the songs at the end of the load album, the black album, and st anger.

Fairly sure they played that in Marlay pk ?

greenspurs · 15-07-2020 4:39pm

hudsonn wrote: »

So the S&M 2 boxset super mega-deluxe version.

There's a competition ...not to win the damn thing but to win the opportunity to buy it............ for 300 bucks!

https://www.metallica.com/contests/show/?contestID=10551

FFS! :eek:

Jaysus H Chr1st :eek::eek:
………………… M€t$lli£A :rolleyes: :eek:

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