2019-2020 Off Season Thread

jack presley · 15-01-2020 7:40am

circular flexing wrote: »

Alex Cora dismissed as Red Sox manager

https://www.mlb.com/news/alex-cora-dismissed-as-red-sox-manager

Carlos Beltran next? He was the only player specifically mentioned in the report and at the time of his hiring, he denied any knowledge of the sign stealing in interviews. Maybe he was more honest in his job interview but if he wasn't, surely he has to go too?

circular flexing · 15-01-2020 7:50am

jack presley wrote: »

Carlos Beltran next? He was the only player specifically mentioned in the report and at the time of his hiring, he denied any knowledge of the sign stealing in interviews. Maybe he was more honest in his job interview but if he wasn't, surely he has to go too?

I would assume he would be next. New York Post not mincing words anyway

https://nypost.com/2020/01/14/lying-carlos-beltran-must-come-clean-in-astros-cheating-scandal/

circular flexing · 15-01-2020 7:51am

In other news Donaldson signed 4 year deal with Twins - some power in that lineup now.

krustydoyle · 15-01-2020 2:37pm

circular flexing wrote:

In other news Donaldson signed 4 year deal with Twins - some power in that lineup now.

Oh that's gonna be exciting to watch next season

krustydoyle · 15-01-2020 2:38pm

circular flexing wrote:

In other news Donaldson signed 4 year deal with Twins - some power in that lineup now.

Oh that's gonna be exciting to watch next season

boccy23 · 15-01-2020 2:59pm

circular flexing wrote: »

In other news Donaldson signed 4 year deal with Twins - some power in that lineup now.

So he got his 4 years. I thought he would stay with Atlanta so maybe only the Twins would give him the fourth year.

ShyMets · 15-01-2020 3:54pm

circular flexing wrote: »

I would assume he would be next. New York Post not mincing words anyway

https://nypost.com/2020/01/14/lying-carlos-beltran-must-come-clean-in-astros-cheating-scandal/

Doesn't look good for him. Mets might be better parting company before things get messy

jack presley · 15-01-2020 8:31pm

ShyMets wrote: »

Doesn't look good for him. Mets might be better parting company before things get messy

Apparently his niece has tweeted that he's stepping down. How much truth there is to that? God only knows!

jack presley · 15-01-2020 8:46pm

jack presley wrote: »

Apparently his niece has tweeted that he's stepping down. How much truth there is to that? God only knows!

Edit: Must be BS. No one is reporting it.

circular flexing · 16-01-2020 7:27pm

MLB.com reporting that Beltran is stepping down.

Igotadose · 16-01-2020 7:28pm

circular flexing wrote: »

MLB.com reporting that Beltran is stepping down.

Probably for the best. I was actually hoping they'd have hired Eduardo Perez, maybe now they will.

Of course, Terry Collins is still on staff! Woo!

circular flexing · 16-01-2020 10:05pm

https://twitter.com/jomboy_/status/1217886556263940098?s=21

jack presley · 16-01-2020 11:57pm

So they part ways wit Beltran but Jose Reyes beats up his wife, no problem we’ll sigh him?

jack presley · 21-01-2020 7:34am

Felix Hernandez has signed with Atlanta. Only a minor league deal but I didn’t see him ending up there.

circular flexing · 21-01-2020 8:26am

jack presley wrote: »

Felix Hernandez has signed with Atlanta. Only a minor league deal but I didn’t see him ending up there.

I think most people expected Miami because that's where his wife moved a couple of years ago. Atlanta is definitely an odd choice, they expect to compete next season and unless something has drastically changed I don't see how he can help with that effort.

circular flexing · 22-01-2020 2:17am

Only 2 HOF inductees voted in this year - Derek Jeter and Larry Walker. Jeter narrowly missed getting 100%.

Igotadose · 22-01-2020 9:32am

circular flexing wrote: »

Only 2 HOF inductees voted in this year - Derek Jeter and Larry Walker. Jeter narrowly missed getting 100%.

Jeter missed by 1. Weird. I thought he'd be unanimous, but people gotta be contrary I suppose.

Doodah7 · 22-01-2020 3:00pm

I also think it is a good thing he didn't get 100%. I would have had a concern that, over time, getting into the Hall wouldn't be seen as good enough without getting the unaninmous support of voters as an extra sense of 'look how great I am!'. This nicely nips this bs in the bud so I say well done to the one awkward voter!

jack presley · 22-01-2020 7:08pm

Luis Rojas confirmed as new Mets coach.

Seems like a popular hire if the reporters I follow on Twitter are anything to go by but apparently he was told during the first round of interviews that he didn't have enough experience.

jack presley · 27-01-2020 7:11pm

I like the idea of this

https://twitter.com/pedrogomezESPN/status/1221835170006716416

Igotadose · 03-02-2020 11:35am

Sad news about Tony Fernandez, gravely ill in hospital. I'd forgotten he was briefly a Met. Classy player wherever he played.

https://twitter.com/CDNBaseballHOF/status/1223435713154179072

circular flexing · 05-02-2020 4:21am

Betts and Price to Dodgers. Pederson to Angels.

Igotadose · 05-02-2020 9:13am

Steve Cohen backing out of deal to buy Mets.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/04/mets-fans-panicking-with-steve-cohen-sale-in-jeopardy/

Time to start drinking.

05-02-2020 10:46am

circular flexing wrote: »

Betts and Price to Dodgers. Pederson to Angels.

Happy with that.
Most disappointed to lose Verdugo (sic).
He could turn into a very good player over the next few years, and looks like the type of player who will be a fan favourite. I think the deal works for both sides. Short Term for the Dodgers, and Long Term for the Red Sox.

Would still like the Dodgers to improve their Starting pitching

ShyMets · 06-02-2020 9:06am

Igotadose wrote: »

Steve Cohen backing out of deal to buy Mets.

https://nypost.com/2020/02/04/mets-fans-panicking-with-steve-cohen-sale-in-jeopardy/

Time to start drinking.

Apparently they want to stay in charge for 5 years after Cohen buys them. Crazy stuff

jack presley · 07-02-2020 10:59pm

Billy Hamilton to the Giants.

Igotadose · 08-02-2020 2:53pm

R.I.P. Roger Kahn, author of "The Boys of Summer."

https://apnews.com/070eed808af659d7ec09485825b8293d

jack presley · 08-02-2020 2:59pm

ShyMets wrote: »

Apparently they want to stay in charge for 5 years after Cohen buys them. Crazy stuff

That was crazy when you think about it. Please give us $2.5 billion or whatever to buy our team but we're still going to be in charge and will be making all the decisions for the next 5 years. No wonder he walked. Who in their right mind would sign up for that?

jack presley · 08-02-2020 9:40pm

circular flexing wrote: »

Betts and Price to Dodgers. Pederson to Angels.

The Twins are reported to have pulled out of the deal so I presume Boston/LA will have to find another team or the deal can't go through?

jack presley · 10-02-2020 9:18am

jack presley wrote: »

The Twins are reported to have pulled out of the deal so I presume Boston/LA will have to find another team or the deal can't go through?

Betts/Price deal completed but the Pederson one to the Angels got cancelled.

circular flexing · 10-02-2020 10:06am

jack presley wrote: »

Betts/Price deal completed but the Pederson one to the Angels got cancelled.

The story is that the Angels owner ran out of patience waiting for the other deal to close. Wonder if Dodgers will try and shop him around still, Pederson can't play left/centre field from the looks of it and obviously Betts will play in right.

jack presley · 11-02-2020 10:24am

Is it just me or does anyone else think the proposed playoff changes for 2022 are ridiculous?

7 teams in each league making it and teams getting to pick their opponent in the wild card round. Seems a bit gimmicky.

I quite like the low number of teams that make the playoffs as opposed to the NFL, NBA and NHL.

Hopefully it won’t happen.

ShyMets · 11-02-2020 10:32am

jack presley wrote: »

Is it just me or does anyone else think the proposed playoff changes for 2022 are ridiculous?

7 teams in each league making it and teams getting to pick their opponent in the wild card round. Seems a bit gimmicky.

I quite like the low number of teams that make the playoffs as opposed to the NFL, NBA and NHL.

Hopefully it won’t happen.

Its an attempt to regain some of the popularity that the game has lost. But it doesn't address the two fundamental issues: Games are too long and not enough action, in other words, get the ball in play more

Doodah7 · 13-02-2020 3:33pm

Can't say I'm very much in favour of these proposals:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/feb/13/will-mindbending-proposed-changes-to-mlbs-playoffs-change-the-game

At a pinch, making the Wild Card a best-of-three after a 162 game season might seem a little fairer. The rest seems bonkers!!

jack presley · 13-02-2020 6:36pm

https://twitter.com/martyconway/status/1227983459920076801?s=21

circular flexing · 13-02-2020 7:44pm

jack presley wrote: »

Is it just me or does anyone else think the proposed playoff changes for 2022 are ridiculous?

7 teams in each league making it and teams getting to pick their opponent in the wild card round. Seems a bit gimmicky.

I quite like the low number of teams that make the playoffs as opposed to the NFL, NBA and NHL.

Hopefully it won’t happen.

Also known as the "look! over here!" plan to distract from Astros cheating.

jack presley · 13-02-2020 10:42pm

circular flexing wrote: »

Also known as the "look! over here!" plan to distract from Astros cheating.

I think they'll have to come up with a more ridiculous playoff proposal to achieve that if today's press conference was anything to go by.

18-02-2020 6:04pm

Anyone else sick of all of the Astro's talk?
The last thing I'd want, is the Dodgers to retrospectively be given a Championship.
I actually think, stick an asterisk beside the Astros title, and be done with it.

jack presley · 18-02-2020 8:04pm

And we have our first stupid injury of the year.....

https://twitter.com/SteveGelbs/status/1229843660692480001

jack presley · 18-02-2020 8:08pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone else sick of all of the Astro's talk?
The last thing I'd want, is the Dodgers to retrospectively be given a Championship.
I actually think, stick an asterisk beside the Astros title, and be done with it.

I'm not at the sick of it stage yet. I'm actually quite enjoying it. When people like Mike Trout are speaking out, you know there's a few miles left in this yet. And the Astros and Manfred keep making it worse every time they open their mouths. It's funny how bad their explanations/apologies have been.

I heard some bloke turned up at Astros batting practice a day or so ago and banged a bin before running off. I'm looking forward to games starting, especially the regular season to see the ways fans and teams come up with ideas to slag off the Astros when they're playing them.

I'm with you on the vacating the title or awarding it to the Dodgers though. Everyone knows that the title is tainted, let's just leave it at that.

ShyMets · 19-02-2020 9:00am

jack presley wrote: »

I'm not at the sick of it stage yet. I'm actually quite enjoying it. When people like Mike Trout are speaking out, you know there's a few miles left in this yet. And the Astros and Manfred keep making it worse every time they open their mouths. It's funny how bad their explanations/apologies have been.

I heard some bloke turned up at Astros batting practice a day or so ago and banged a bin before running off. I'm looking forward to games starting, especially the regular season to see the ways fans and teams come up with ideas to slag off the Astros when they're playing them.

I'm with you on the vacating the title or awarding it to the Dodgers though. Everyone knows that the title is tainted, let's just leave it at that.

Personally I'd strip the Astros of the title and award it to no team

Igotadose · 19-02-2020 9:56am

Mets have first injury of the year: Seth Lugo, broken toe. Amputation of the foot no doubt just around the corner: https://nypost.com/2020/02/18/mets-seth-lugo-breaks-toe-in-hotel-accident/

Also, Jed "O-7 in 2019 for a cool $10 million" Lowrie, possibly one of the worst FA signings by any team in history, has shown up with some sort of knee brace, and vague explanations for what's going on. https://nypost.com/2020/02/16/jed-lowries-massive-leg-brace-raises-more-mets-questions/

And games don't start till this upcoming weekend. Joy, joy.

ShyMets · 19-02-2020 12:40pm

Igotadose wrote: »

Mets have first injury of the year: Seth Lugo, broken toe. Amputation of the foot no doubt just around the corner: https://nypost.com/2020/02/18/mets-seth-lugo-breaks-toe-in-hotel-accident/

Also, Jed "O-7 in 2019 for a cool $10 million" Lowrie, possibly one of the worst FA signings by any team in history, has shown up with some sort of knee brace, and vague explanations for what's going on. https://nypost.com/2020/02/16/jed-lowries-massive-leg-brace-raises-more-mets-questions/

And games don't start till this upcoming weekend. Joy, joy.

Horrendous deal for the Mets but a pretty sweet one for Lowrie

Igotadose · 19-02-2020 1:07pm

ShyMets wrote: »

Horrendous deal for the Mets but a pretty sweet one for Lowrie

BVW doing well by an ex-client. Well, it's early in ST. Plenty of opportunity for injury yet.

Itssoeasy · 19-02-2020 8:58pm

ShyMets wrote: »

Personally I'd strip the Astros of the title and award it to no team

So the lance Armstrong Tour de France method and leave it blank ? MLB did it during the strike in the nineties so why not know. I wouldn't like to be an astros player if this keeps rolling on and isn't resolved to the other players liking. Imagine stepping into the batters box as an Astro and having to face a pitcher who's pissed as the astros ?

ShyMets · 20-02-2020 9:41am

Itssoeasy wrote: »

So the lance Armstrong Tour de France method and leave it blank ? MLB did it during the strike in the nineties so why not know. I wouldn't like to be an astros player if this keeps rolling on and isn't resolved to the other players liking. Imagine stepping into the batters box as an Astro and having to face a pitcher who's pissed as the astros ?

I'd absolutely go down the Lance Armstrong route. Listening to some baseball podcasts the narrative form nearly all the presenters is not to strip the Astros of the title and that everyone knows the title is tainted. And yes it is tainted but the record books will still show that the Astros won. So where is the punishment.

jack presley · 20-02-2020 10:13pm

Huskies (whoever they are) @ Red Sox tomorrow at 6:05pm kicks off MLB.TV's spring trying schedule. It'll be good to see baseball again, even if it's a bunch of scrubs playing.

jack presley · 24-02-2020 7:14pm

My favourite story of the off-season so far.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28768282/madison-bumgarner-reveals-rodeo-hobby-just-part-are

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 25-02-2020 11:57am

Ah pre season baseball.

Surrounded by way more crap this year. So those Astros.. Cheating bast*rds.

End of really!

jack presley · 25-02-2020 3:27pm

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Ah pre season baseball.

Surrounded by way more crap this year. So those Astros.. Cheating bast*rds.

End of really!

https://twitter.com/mlbrandomstats/status/1232026295132999680?s=21

2019-2020 Off Season Thread

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