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RTE Bias

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  • #102
    Martin Lanigan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 231 ✭✭Martin Lanigan


    Our anti-Semite TD was just mentioned on the RTE news intro. Will keep watching for the full story and the apologies from P Doherty and the lady in question.


  • #103
    Martin Lanigan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 231 ✭✭Martin Lanigan


    On now.

    Wonder how many of the 8000 first preference voters knew she was a racist when voting for her.


  • #104
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,416 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Martin Lanigan wrote: »
    On now.

    Wonder how many of the 8000 first preference voters knew she was a racist when voting for her.

    Probably as many as in the other half of Kildare, who elected a SF woman who went on her holidays during the election campaign.


  • #105
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Martin Lanigan wrote: »
    On now.

    Wonder how many of the 8000 first preference voters knew she was a racist when voting for her.

    I suspect people knew nothing about her... she hardly canvassed at all in the main towns in her constituency. She is 100% a protest vote candidate.


  • #106
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    ShylockWept wrote: »
    Do you really think the electorate are that stupid and undiscerning?

    yes


  • #107
    Martin Lanigan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 231 ✭✭Martin Lanigan


    Talk of disciplinary action. Could she be the first TD to lose the party whip in the new Dáil?


  • #108
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    ShylockWept wrote: »
    Do you really think the electorate are that stupid and undiscerning?

    But sure you don't care about anything about what they've done or said, so why should they?


  • #109
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,416 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    ShylockWept wrote: »
    The tweets are in poor taste, agreed.

    But let's catch ourselves on ...there are bigger issues we should be talking about?

    Why are people outraged by an ancient tweet, but not outraged by no. of eople on trollies right now

    fakenews

    Not poor taste. They are lies, anti Semitic and anti science.


  • #110
    Carol25
    Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Carol25


    I find the agenda among Sinn Fein supporters against a Public Service broadcasting channel quite scary. What do they want? A pro Sinn Féin propaganda channel?! Do they think it’s ok to act threateningly online towards an organisation where normal people come in to do their jobs and go home to their families? I don’t, and think it’s a threat to our democracy. My biggest concern is the way the Sinn Fein party is acting if anyone questions their candidates, agenda, views, anything. It’s what’s supposed to happen day in, day out as part of living in a democracy. Do they not have an answer for us? Are they just an extremist group disguised as a left leaning ‘party for change’...
    Rte hold everyone to account, there are countless times they put other parties and candidates on the spot - how has anyone forgotten the Sean O’Rourke interview of Maria Bailey?! However the other parties have always treated RTE with respect, as should Sinn Fein.


  • #111
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,416 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    ShylockWept wrote: »
    Maybe baby

    But that is democracy with a capital D

    And what about the lies FF and FG have told us

    The IMF are not in town....the cheapest bailout in the world....the best little country in which to grow old

    I know what I care about...and electorate similarly

    Even though you are not a member, you have the SF media book learned off down to a T. Even if one of them murdered their grandmother, their supporters would be asking what about something else.


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  • #112
    nkl12xtw5goz70
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭nkl12xtw5goz70


    Carol25 wrote: »
    My biggest concern is the way the Sinn Fein party is acting if anyone questions their candidates, agenda, views, anything.

    It is not dissimilar to the way Trump behaves with the media in the US.


  • #113
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Martin Lanigan wrote: »
    On now.

    Wonder how many of the 8000 first preference voters knew she was a racist when voting for her.

    She's an idiot.She shouldn't have apologiesed on her comments on Israel. Let's no pretend Israel is a normal country or a country that behaves in a normal way. They also have no respect for Irish sovereignty it seems and varadkar has shot himself in the foot IMO. Don't believe me? Look at the comments of Israel's ambassador to Ireland after their secret services had doctored Irish passports:


    "Israel’s ambassador to Ireland has said he “cannot guarantee” that Irish passports will not be used by the Israeli secret service again, after their previous use in the assassination of a Palestinian militant."

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/no-guarantee-over-fake-irish-passports-being-used-by-israeli-secret-service-again-424935.html


  • #114
    buried
    Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    Carol25 wrote: »
    Rte hold everyone to account, there are countless times they put other parties and candidates on the spot - how has anyone forgotten the Sean O’Rourke interview of Maria Bailey?! However the other parties have always treated RTE with respect, as should Sinn Fein.

    Maria Bailey did that trainwreck her own self. O'Rourke gave her plenty of ample opportunity to reign her noise in but she chose to go full Chernobyl meltdown all on her own.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • #115
    Carol25
    Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Carol25


    ShylockWept wrote: »
    Excuse me, but who has acted threateningly? That is quite a remarkable claim.

    What is remarkable is your denial...

    https://twitter.com/johnbradysf/status/1229546396950433792?s=21

    Here is one example out of countless I see daily. It’s a full blown assault on the national public service station and it should not be tolerated in a Western Democracy. Attack the messenger and not the message, classic Trump.


  • #116
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    buried wrote: »
    Maria Bailey did that trainwreck her own self. .

    Wait, so you're implying that the SF TDs didn't use their own words, but someone else "hacked" them and set them up?


  • #117
    buried
    Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Wait, so you're implying that the SF TDs didn't use their own words, but someone else "hacked" them and set them up?

    Wait yourself, Maria Bailey isn't a Sinn Fein TD Hurrache

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • #118
    Martin Lanigan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 231 ✭✭Martin Lanigan


    smurgen wrote: »
    She's an idiot.She shouldn't have apologiesed on her comments on Israel. Let's no pretend Israel is a normal country or a country that behaves in a normal way. They also have no respect for Irish sovereignty it seems and varadkar has shot himself in the foot IMO. Don't believe me? Look at the comments of Israel's ambassador to Ireland after their secret services had doctored Irish passports:


    "Israel’s ambassador to Ireland has said he “cannot guarantee” that Irish passports will not be used by the Israeli secret service again, after their previous use in the assassination of a Palestinian militant."

    The state of Israel didn’t exist before WW2, this is nothing to do with criticism of Israel.

    She claimed that Jewish bankers (ie Rothschilds) bankrolled Hitler into power and controlled him. She is probably a Holocaust denier also.


  • #119
    ShylockWept
    Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭ShylockWept


    Martin Lanigan wrote: »
    The state of Israel didn’t exist before WW2, this is nothing to do with criticism of Israel.

    She claimed that Jewish bankers (ie Rothschilds) bankrolled Hitler into power and controlled him. She is probably a Holocaust denier also.

    Can we please move it along to discuss the more significant economical and societal issues please


  • #120
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,416 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    ShylockWept wrote: »
    Can we please move it along to discuss the more significant economical and societal issues please

    Far too soon.

    What happened to the text of your original post??


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  • #121
    Martin Lanigan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 231 ✭✭Martin Lanigan


    ShylockWept wrote: »
    Can we please move it along to discuss the more significant economical and societal issues please

    Can we rename the thread given this is a discussion on SF TD Cronin and her anti-semitism and other offensive opinions.


  • #122
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    buried wrote: »
    Wait yourself, Maria Bailey isn't a Sinn Fein TD Hurrache

    It seems like you were using the fact she made an eejit of herself as an argument against the poster showing that the bias in RTE is imaginary.

    And just like Bailey made a fool of herself, so too did the SF TDs in question.

    It's pretty unusual to see TDs just elected lock down their previously public social media accounts.


  • #123
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,564 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Martin Lanigan wrote: »
    The state of Israel didn’t exist before WW2, this is nothing to do with criticism of Israel.

    She claimed that Jewish bankers (ie Rothschilds) bankrolled Hitler into power and controlled him. She is probably a Holocaust denier also.

    What she tweeted was

    "Those wars were instigated and funded by the banks of royal families of Europe"


  • #124
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Martin Lanigan wrote: »
    The state of Israel didn’t exist before WW2, this is nothing to do with criticism of Israel.

    She claimed that Jewish bankers (ie Rothschilds) bankrolled Hitler into power and controlled him. She is probably a Holocaust denier also.

    Great stuff, I can't wait to hear her views on 911, Sandy Hook, Roswell etc


  • #125
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Tony EH wrote: »
    What she tweeted was

    "Those wars were instigated and funded by the banks of royal families of Europe"

    There's nothing like an in depth analysis of important topics in 140 characters or less.


  • #126
    buried
    Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    Hurrache wrote: »
    It seems like you were using the fact she made an eejit of herself as an argument against the poster showing that the bias in RTE is imaginary.

    And just like Bailey made a fool of herself, so too did the SF TDs in question.

    RTE and Sean O'Rourke didn't "hold Maria Bailey to account" like that poster tried to claim.

    Maria Bailey went into that interview where she made an absolute holy f**king show of herself off her own bat. She forced the interview. She had her PR representative with her too who told her to do it. RTE were holding nobody to account in that mess. They just facilitated it. O'Rourke probably wasn't aware just what sort of spoiled entitled moron he was dealing with, especially with her own PR agent telling her to do the interview. You could almost sense the man himself and the production team wanting to cut it but Bailey went full blown entertainment postal meltdown and they couldn't get a word in edge ways let alone cut it.

    RTE "holding a FG TD to account" it was not.

    What it actually was, was that it was f**king hilarious. It still is.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



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  • #127
    Martin Lanigan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 231 ✭✭Martin Lanigan


    Tony EH wrote: »
    What she tweeted was

    "Those wars were instigated and funded by the banks of royal families of Europe"

    She also shared content that said that Hitler was a pawn of Jewish banks.


  • #128
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,564 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Ipso wrote: »
    There's nothing like an in depth analysis of important topics in 140 characters or less.

    And there's nothing like making up even more nonsense based on those 140 chars.


  • #129
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,564 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Martin Lanigan wrote: »
    She also shared content that said that Hitler was a pawn of Jewish banks.

    Not her words though.

    HER words were:

    "Those wars were instigated and funded by the banks of royal families of Europe"


  • #130
    Martin Lanigan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 231 ✭✭Martin Lanigan


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Not her words though.

    HER words were:

    "Those wars were instigated and funded by the banks of royal families of Europe"

    I repeat, she also shared content that said that Hitler was a pawn of Jewish banks.


  • #131
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,564 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Martin Lanigan wrote: »
    I repeat, she also shared content that said that Hitler was a pawn of Jewish banks.

    And I'll repeat to you, they weren't HER words.


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  • #132
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Tony EH wrote: »
    And there's nothing like making up even more nonsense based on those 140 chars.

    So which royal families bank invaded Poland?


  • #133
    Martin Lanigan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 231 ✭✭Martin Lanigan


    Tony EH wrote: »
    And I'll repeat to you, they weren't HER words.

    So retweeting anti-Semitic comments is acceptable.


  • #134
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,564 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Martin Lanigan wrote: »
    So retweeting anti-Semitic comments is acceptable.

    It doesn't automatically make one "anti Semetic", nor does it make one a "holocaust denier" either.

    And I'll say again HER words were "Those wars were instigated and funded by the banks of royal families of Europe", which is very different to how it's being framed.


  • #135
    The Tetrarch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭The Tetrarch


    I expect we will have the Sinn Fein hierarcy grouped around her explaining to the media that what she said was not what she said. :rolleyes:


  • #136
    Martin Lanigan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 231 ✭✭Martin Lanigan


    Tony EH wrote: »
    It doesn't automatically make one "anti Semetic", nor does it make one a "holocaust denier" either.

    And I'll say again HER words were "Those wars were instigated and funded by the banks of royal families of Europe", which is very different to how it's being framed.

    It does it you retweet in support of the comments.


  • #137
    Granadino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭Granadino


    Have a read of the book Flat Earth News. There's a section in it on criticism of anything to do with Israel, and how it's painted as being anti semetic and racist.


  • #138
    Martin Lanigan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 231 ✭✭Martin Lanigan


    The Tetrarch wrote: »
    I expect we will have the Sinn Fein hierarcy grouped around her explaining to the media that what she said was not what she said. :rolleyes:

    Already happening on here.


  • #139
    Martin Lanigan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 231 ✭✭Martin Lanigan


    Granadino wrote: »
    Have a read of the book Flat Earth News. There's a section in it on criticism of anything to do with Israel, and how it's painted as being anti semetic and racist.

    Relevance?


  • #140
    satguy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭satguy


    While I nothing against Jews at all,, I would be inclined lump Israelis in with Travellers and the Taliban as examples of cultures that could be improved upon.


  • #141
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,564 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Martin Lanigan wrote: »
    It does it you retweet in support of the comments.

    Her own tweet doesn't really support the retweet.

    "Those wars were instigated and funded by the banks of royal families of Europe.

    She mentions nothing about the Rothschild's or "Jewish bankers", unless there are other tweets we haven't seen yet.

    There is absolutely nothing to see here, except a silly off the cuff remark.

    TBH, I'd be more worried about her nonsense regarding Fluoride in the water.


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  • #142
    nkl12xtw5goz70
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭nkl12xtw5goz70


    ShylockWept wrote: »
    This story is fake news

    I never thought I'd see defenders of SF take a leaf out of the Trump playbook, but here we go.


  • #143
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Mike Victorious Ice wrote: »
    I never thought I'd see defenders of SF take a leaf out of the Trump playbook, but here we go.

    Get used to it, accomplices ending up in jail may be another feature.


  • #144
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,416 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    ShylockWept wrote: »
    This story is fake news

    The rich Irish is trying to deflect from what is really going on

    This story?

    RTE Bias
    Ok

    Not much of a story.


  • #145
    Crock Rock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Crock Rock


    dotsman wrote: »
    P.S. Sinn Fein, as a party, are anti-semite. That was never a secret - it's kind of their policy!

    I spent an hour or so lambasting Finland. Does that make me anti-Lutheran or something?


  • #146
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    ShylockWept wrote: »
    This story is fake news

    The rich Irish is trying to deflect from what is really going on
    Mike Victorious Ice wrote: »
    I never thought I'd see defenders of SF take a leaf out of the Trump playbook, but here we go.

    I like the fact his user name references one of the Bards questionable Jewish characterisations

    The TD is question is either an anti-Semite or a grade A dope. I'm just not sure which.


  • #147
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,564 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    The TD is question is either an anti-Semite or a grade A dope. I'm just not sure which.

    More than likely a bit of a dope I'd say, and in that respect, she's going to be in great company with the rest of the dopes of all stripes in Dail Eireann.


  • #148
    buried
    Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    While we're all talking about Antisemitism, why don't RTE look into what Charlie Flanagan's father had to say about that particular race of folk back in the day?

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • #149
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,416 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Crock Rock wrote: »
    I spent an hour or so lambasting Finland. Does that make me anti-Lutheran or something?

    Did you compare them to monkeys and dogs?


  • #150
    ShylockWept
    Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭ShylockWept


    MODS. Please delete this thread. I have made my point and now wish to have the thread shut down. Thank you.


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  • #151
    Martin Lanigan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 231 ✭✭Martin Lanigan


    ShylockWept wrote: »
    MODS. Please delete this thread. I have made my point and now wish to have the thread shut down. Thank you.

    What point was that?


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