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Most miserable trad song ever.

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  • #52
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Folk and Trad is innately miserable - that's the phucking point.

    Given it was composed by poor godforsaken freezing cold dirty faced peasants living in a one roomed hovel with a fire in the middle of it whose brother was sent to Van Diemens Land, Scrubs or Kilmainham Gaol to serve time for robbing a cup a corn to feed the poooower starving young ins .... who could only laugh or cry when the cold hard oppressor turned their evil back to let the childeren run free in the summa meadows...

    Anyone who wrote proper romantic love songs or celebratory anthems were chastised as weirdos I reckon? No pain no gain.


  • #53
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,512 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    They come over here and they take all our land
    They chop of our heads and they boil them in oil
    Our children are leaving and we have no heads
    We drink and we sing and we drink and we die
    We have no heads, we have no heads
    They come over here and they chop off our legs
    They cut off our hands and put nails in our eyes
    O'Grady is dead and O'Hanrahan's gone
    We drink and we die and continue to drink
    O'Hanrahan, no O'Hanrahan
    They buried O'Neill down in Country Shillhame
    The poor children crying a fe dee din de
    Hin fle di din fle di din fle de din de
    In hey bibble bibble hey bibble bibble hey fle bibble de
    O'Hanrahan, no O'Hanrahan
    We drink and we sing and we drink and we sing, hey!
    We drink and we drive and we puke and we drink, hey!
    We drink and we fight and we bleed and we cry, hey!
    We puke and we smoke and we drink and we die, hey!


  • #54
    Tombo2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Why are people conflating folk songs with trad? Just because The Dubliners sang it doesn't make it a trad song. Luke kelly was heavily influenced by Ewan MacColl (father of Kirsty) and songs like "The Spinghill Mine Disaster" and "Lifeboat Mona" come from the folk tradition not trad.

    Bang on there. Not the same thing.

    Folks is sung all over the world. Trad is unique to here.


  • #55
    Gregor Samsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Why are people conflating folk songs with trad?
    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    Bang on there. Not the same thing.

    I once had a metalhead spend 45 minutes trying to explain to me that Blackened Doom, Blackened Death-Doom and Death-Doom were all completely different genres. Talk about misery (both the music and having to listen to the argument in the first place).

    I guess these distinctions matter if you're running a niche record shop or spend your days updating Wikipedia pages in your underpants, but out in the real world, or even a light-hearted thread in After Hours, it's hardly on any consequence.


  • #56
    wexandproud
    Registered Users Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭wexandproud


    Jack Chilly Forceps wrote: »
    Not really a trad song but Grace is a miserable auld tune. Lad gets married and then is dragged out to be shot.
    you should hear rod stewart doing it . I like the song and indeed rod stewart , but f..k me he really destroys it


  • #57
    Feisar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    Bang on there. Not the same thing.

    Folks is sung all over the world. Trad is unique to here.

    I googled Irish trad and what I would consider folk came up. Trad to me anyway is the Silver Spear type stuff. An awful dirge about having no spuds is folk I thought?

    First they came for the socialists...



  • #58
    cannotlogin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    Feisar wrote: »
    /thread


    I was doing fine until "he called for you at the end".....but that really got me.

    As miserable as a long of them are, there's something brilliant about them too. They evoke so much emotion that modern music could never convey.


  • #59
    Coopaloop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭Coopaloop


    The auld triangle....
    Very bleak!
    Great song tho.


  • #60
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lough sheelin eviction,is even by irish folk standreds is a bleak


    https://youtu.be/lI5o2SWZ_b8


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  • #61
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    the spuds aren't looking the best

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVlb1i0x0ew


  • #62
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,512 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Any of the mother songs.
    Gentle mother.
    Mother Machree.
    A mothers loves a blessing.

    Any doomed young rebel ones.
    Kevin Barry.
    Shanagolden.etc


  • #63
    foxy farmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Penned by Gordon Lightfoot about a Great Lakes freighter that sunk in a storm on Lake Superior in November 1975 with the loss of all 29 crew.
    This version by Brian Burns is more poignant as he lists the names of the crew at the end.


    "And the church bell chimed till it rang 29 times for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC18ej6gIcE


  • #64
    Cerveza
    Closed Accounts Posts: 424 ✭✭Cerveza


    That went right over you there.


  • #65
    NickNickleby
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    fryup wrote: »
    the spuds aren't looking the best

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVlb1i0x0ew
    :pac::pac::pac:
    Sorry, I only got as far as "I'm known as young Flynner" before I cracked up.

    what rhymes with 'blight' ?


  • #66
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,641 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    foxy farmer wrote: »
    The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Penned by Gordon Lightfoot about a Great Lakes freighter that sunk in a storm on Lake Superior in November 1975 with the loss of all 29 crew.
    This version by Brian Burns is more poignant as he lists the names of the crew at the end.


    "And the church bell chimed till it rang 29 times for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC18ej6gIcE

    Christy Moore borrowed the main melody for his Back Home in Derry song.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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  • #67
    chosen1
    Registered Users Posts: 417 ✭✭chosen1


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Christy Moore borrowed the main melody for his Back Home in Derry song.

    That was written by Bobby Sands in the H blocks.

    Understandable to have some miserable qualities with that setting. Good song though.


  • #68
    IAMAMORON
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    chosen1 wrote: »
    That was written by Bobby Sands in the H blocks.

    Understandable to have some miserable qualities with that setting. Good song though.

    He wrote Mclhatton as well, not as miserable - a celebration of Irelands' enduring battle with ..... alcohol withdrawal.


  • #69
    Blazer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,452 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    All of those songs are depressing ****e. My mother took up guitar a few years back and is always onto me to go their music sessions even though its Iron Maiden and rock I play.
    I'd much rather eat glass and **** it out than listen to that depressing ****e " mary went walking one day , and then she died., and her children died, and their father died" and then I ****in died thank christ from listening to that rubbish.


  • #70
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Blazer wrote: »
    All of those songs are depressing ****e. My mother took up guitar a few years back and is always onto me to go their music sessions even though its Iron Maiden and rock I play.
    I'd much rather eat glass and **** it out than listen to that depressing ****e " mary went walking one day , and then she died., and her children died, and their father died" and then I ****in died thank christ from listening to that rubbish.

    You are just a walking expletive aren't you?

    Wash out your mouth.


  • #71
    bnt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,031 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    It’s got to be the “Death, Death, Death” song from Cheers:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsMUqK4mLjc

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



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  • #72
    sligojoek
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    Not quite trad but Irish and miserable



  • #73
    Edgware
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    The fields of Athenry, especially when sung by the " best supporters in the world"


  • #74
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Edgware wrote: »
    The fields of Athenry, especially when sung by the " best supporters in the world"

    Munster rugby supporters?


  • #75
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,512 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Edgware wrote: »
    The fields of Athenry, especially when sung by the " best supporters in the world"

    Unbearable when sung/shouted out by people without a note in their heads.


  • #76
    fryup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Munster rugby supporters?

    no sell'thick


  • #77
    NSAman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭NSAman


    "Nobodies Child"..;)


  • #78
    FixdePitchmark
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    Stunning song - but as opening lines go.

    Sorrow and sadness.
    bitterness grief.
    Memories I have of you.
    wont leave me in peace.


    It also has a personal impact - as I spent time with both my mum and dad in the West Coast of Clare - so fairly personally impactful.

    What a song. Haven't listened to it in years.



  • #79
    dd973
    Registered Users Posts: 625 ✭✭✭dd973


    What's that one that Celtic fans hum, there's no words, but God it's dreary.


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