Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Dublin Port Masterplan

2»

Comments

  • #52
    Pete_Cavan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,039 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118195676#Comment_118195676

    The inclusion of Luas would be coming from TII not DCC. DCC wanted to build the pedestrian bridge near the CB. They actually had two plans, the first was rejected by ABP because its foundations could impact the future DART+ Tunnel intended to pass under. They then moved the bridge away to avoid that issue but that was rejected because ABP said it should link to the DART station! DCC has now shelved the plan.

    DCC also want another bridge across the Liffey immediately west of the EastLink. This was to be in addition to the bridge at the CB and has nothing to do with the propsed SPAR bridge. The EastLink is obviously not suitable for pedestrians and cyclists.



  • #53
    gjim
    Registered Users Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭gjim


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118195440#Comment_118195440

    Yeah - that whole stretch along the river from Poolbeg Yacht club to the Dodder should be an amenity not 4/6 segregated lanes of vehicular traffic - much of it heavy - which will what happen as a result of this plan.

    It's unfortunate that the the East Link bridge is so narrow but in any case it should be reserved for light local traffic, cycling/walking and the odd bus, given that heavy port vehicles could use a new eastern port bridge.

    If the East Link bridge was reserved for light local traffic and pedestrians/cyclists, then you could re-configure the south side of the bridge to connect directly to Ringsend directly via York Rd, Thorncastle St. etc. and reclaim the space currently used by toll booths, reservation, and lanes currently used to provide access to the bridge to heavy port traffic. This space is wide enough to provide a mix of amenity/park lands, walks/cycle routes and even some development - waterfront housing/offices.

    Instead this plan will actually increase the lanes of traffic and make any further expansion of the southern waterfront docklands impossible.

    A high iconic port bridge anywhere east of Poolbeg Boat/Yacht club would be far more sensible.



  • #54
    Pete_Cavan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,039 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118196037#Comment_118196037

    I like the idea of EastLink connecting directly to York Rd and Thorncastle St. but it's not going to fly. Locals would be completely opposed to it (and I wouldn't blame them). The problem with any river side amenity there is that it will always be very isolated and separated from everything else by at least two traffic lanes and Luas tracks. There is as much scope to create more of an amenity along North Wall Quay, which I think there were plans for.

    The 3FM plan does have a new marina along the Liffey south bank immediately east of the EastLink, plus a new 5acre park from the existing Poolbeg Yacht & Boat Club going east. In creating the new port road along the south bank, they could provide a walkway along there, along with screening and at a lower level to the road to give a good level of separation from the traffic.



  • #55
    millb
    Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭millb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118196037#Comment_118196037

    Yes "A high iconic port bridge anywhere east of Poolbeg Boat/Yacht club would be far more sensible"

    totally agree and we will need other rising-sea level defences to the east as well .

    Unfortunately there is nothing iconic about the Dublin Port Company best it gets is when Tall Ships and some clean looking

    (environmentally unfriendly😓) Cruise Liners come in.



  • #56
    CatInABox
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,398 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatInABox


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118195749#Comment_118195749

    Yup, that's ringing a bell, thanks!



  • #57
    Pete_Cavan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,039 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    Dublin Port issued an update on the 3FM Project last month;

    https://www.dublinport.ie/dublin-port-company-announces-update-on-3fm-project/



  • #58
    Citizen Six
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,631 ✭✭✭Citizen Six


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122220631#Comment_122220631

    Rail freight access

    Dublin Port Company is also pleased to update that discussions are progressing well with Irish Rail with the intention of providing access for all port terminals to Rail. The SPAR will enable rapid road shunting of containers from the 3FM Project to these rail intermodal facilities. This rail intermodal initiative is separate to the 3FM Project in itself. Further updates will follow as this project evolves.

    Yet DCC don't want rail traffic crossing East Wall road to Alexandra road. There's already near misses there on a weekly basis with traffic breaking the lights.



  • #59
    Beta Ray Bill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122305555#Comment_122305555

    Rail freight is absolutely key to the countries development. (needs a lot of work). But right now, we approaching the limit with Road Haulage, there aren't enough new drivers, and the M50 is jammed and it's mostly HGV's.

    DCC can't hold the rest of the country hostage because they've made such an absolute balls of traffic management over the last 10 years. It's the same with the toll bridge and sam becket bridge , they won't open them during the day, because of traffic the ramifications last for the rest of the day when they do (even on weekends).

    DCC have this view that the City centre should be primarily an area of social recreation (theatres, coffee shops, restaurants, shopping etc), when in reality Ireland is on the verge of becoming a city sate and Dublin is a Commercial, industrial and Logistical business centre more so than anything else.

    Might be an unpopular opinion but if you break red lights at a railway crossing and get hit by a train, then that's on you. Like it's severely stupid. They should throw the book at those people.

    Post edited by Beta Ray Bill on


Advertisement