Some of Todays Wrestling News and Rumours (Possible spoilers) NO CHAT

Jerichoholic · 09-02-2015 3:19pm

martyos121 wrote: »

So we can finally rule that out then? :pac:

You can't seriously think Dave is full of sh1t, whenever he's been wrong it's because plans changed. He's as close to the Gospel as you can get.

gerrybbadd · 09-02-2015 3:28pm

Have to agree, Dave is generally more right than he's wrong

Gerry Rio · 09-02-2015 4:00pm

So looks like a Dusty Finish for Fast Lane then. If it's a Triple Threat does Reigns still win?

ricero · 09-02-2015 4:03pm

Haven't saw a double pin in a long time. Miss the confused look of the referees afterwards

martyos121 · 09-02-2015 4:04pm

Jerichoholic wrote: »

You can't seriously think Dave is full of sh1t, whenever he's been wrong it's because plans changed. He's as close to the Gospel as you can get.

That was certainly the case a couple of years ago, but for whatever reason, he's made many wrong calls since. How many of those were down to a change of plans I can't be certain, but he's a long ways away from being a gospel. Anyways, I don't see the triple threat happening.

BohsJohnny · 09-02-2015 4:28pm

martyos121 wrote: »

That was certainly the case a couple of years ago, but for whatever reason, he's made many wrong calls since. How many of those were down to a change of plans I can't be certain, but he's a long ways away from being a gospel. Anyways, I don't see the triple threat happening.

No offence but do you read the Observer or listen to the radio shows cause if not you really can't speak about his "wrong calls".

Diabhal Beag · 09-02-2015 4:47pm

He gets worked by Heyman fairly regularly which is good fun. The CM Punk returning to Chicago was the best example.

BohsJohnny · 09-02-2015 4:51pm

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

He gets worked by Heyman fairly regularly which is good fun. The CM Punk returning to Chicago was the best example.

Wasn't that Flair but that what I mean even now people say he said 100% Punk was coming back when all he said was he heard it from someone he would trust who it turned out was probably Flair given false info on purpose to out him as a Meltzer source.

ERG89 · 09-02-2015 5:18pm

Jerichoholic wrote: »

You can't seriously think Dave is full of sh1t, whenever he's been wrong it's because plans changed. He's as close to the Gospel as you can get.

Tbh its impossible now to get scoops for WWE as they change so much on the fly more terrible planning from WWE than Meltzer but you can`t say his sources are what they once were. He also gets mistranslated a lot too which doesn't help.
I wouldn't be subscribing to the newsletter for just that anymore imo but I find the whole product is just so flat right now it doesn`t bother me not knowing the plans tbh.

JP Liz V1 · 09-02-2015 5:22pm

http://comicbook.com/2015/02/07/arrows-stephen-amell-warns-wwes-sting-to-tread-carefully/

There can only be one vigilante

leggo · 09-02-2015 5:48pm

Ah, I remember the calls that Meltzer had lost his credibility back in 2004. Now his 'golden age' has began since then. The more things change... :pac:

Lord TSC · 09-02-2015 6:19pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

http://comicbook.com/2015/02/07/arrows-stephen-amell-warns-wwes-sting-to-tread-carefully/

There can only be one vigilante

God, as if I wasn't confused enough about my feelings for Amell, I learn he is a wrestling fan. :P

Anyway, re: a potential triple threat at Mania....it is shocking if true, because it means two years in a row, we have had a repeat of mistakes, in that they horribly mismanage the Rumble, and then realise they have to shove Bryan into the main event to stop the fans ****ing on it. I wonder at what stage, or what will it take before, they just say **** it! he is obviously someone the fans adore. So let's actually try and capitalise on it, rather than fighting it for no reason other than spite....

Palo Alto · 09-02-2015 6:25pm

I'd respect them more if they stick to Reigns/Lesnar for the sheer bloody-mindedness. It'd be embarrassing to have another triple-threat with D-Bry shoehorned in.

Looper007 · 09-02-2015 6:41pm

Palo Alto wrote: »

I'd respect them more if they stick to Reigns/Lesnar for the sheer bloody-mindedness. It'd be embarrassing to have another triple-threat with D-Bry shoehorned in.

Embarrassing to have someone the fans love and who can get a classic match out of Reigns and Lesnar, Lesnar not in the ring with a top worker doesn't get classic matches. Plus neither of those guys can call a match and Bryan is a ring general. Reigns can still win, Lesnar takes the pin. WWE get Reigns as Champion. The fans might actually get a classic match, you now what they pay for. You respect them putting on the worse match possible.

Gerry Rio · 09-02-2015 6:48pm

WWE has reportedly changed its plans for Wrestlemania 31, with Vince McMahon making the final decision. For most of 2014, it was expected that it would be Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns for the title. Fans then rejected WWE’s plans for Reigns at the Royal Rumble, similar to what they did with Batista’s win at the Rumble before it.

Daniel Bryan, meanwhile, was expected to wrestle Sheamus at Wrestlemania. Then he began to talk about Dolph Ziggler on social media about a possible match.

Now it looks like he’s back to main eventing Wrestlemania. Vince McMahon has changed his mind and has decided on Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns vs Daniel Bryan. It was believed after the Rumble that McMahon would not want to do another triple threat match since that happened last year. However he heard the fan backlash against Roman Reigns and held a meeting with WWE officials to decide the new main event.
WWE.com ran a poll this weekend asking who was more deserving of the main event. Daniel Bryan won with 86% of the vote.

Credit: Wrestling Observer Radio via Rajah

So it looks like, as always, Vince has the last say on this. He reportedly hates Triple Threats for the main belt at Mania so this was done for 3 reasons:

1) To placate the Bryan fans
2) Have someone who isnt a big bulky b*stard lead the match. Brock is incredible but he needs someone else of technical brilliance to bring out the best in him.
3) Leave the outcome of the match in some doubt in case they dont re-sign Brock by Mania. If he's going back to UFC by April then the outcome will be in no doubt and the crowd will sh*t all over it if its just him Vs Reigns.

Regardless of what happens, short of a few Philly style reactions to him on TV over the next 5 weeks I cant see anyone but Reigns winning at Mania.

mrkiscool2 · 09-02-2015 7:05pm

Gerry Rio wrote: »

So it looks like, as always, Vince has the last say on this. He reportedly hates Triple Threats for the main belt at Mania so this was done for 3 reasons:

1) To placate the Bryan fans
2) Have someone who isnt a big bulky b*stard lead the match. Brock is incredible but he needs someone else of technical brilliance to bring out the best in him.
3) Leave the outcome of the match in some doubt in case they dont re-sign Brock by Mania. If he's going back to UFC by April then the outcome will be in no doubt and the crowd will sh*t all over it if its just him Vs Reigns.

Regardless of what happens, short of a few Philly style reactions to him on TV over the next 5 weeks I cant see anyone but Reigns winning at Mania.

I'd agree on the 3 points. Who wins doesn't matter anyway as I can see Rollins cashing in at WM. And a triple threat match is kayfabe so draining that it makes whoever he cashes in on look great so I'd agree that it'll be Reigns pinning Lesnar.

Moneymaker · 09-02-2015 7:33pm

Gerry Rio wrote: »

So it looks like, as always, Vince has the last say on this. He reportedly hates Triple Threats for the main belt at Mania so this was done for 3 reasons:

1) To placate the Bryan fans
2) Have someone who isnt a big bulky b*stard lead the match. Brock is incredible but he needs someone else of technical brilliance to bring out the best in him.
3) Leave the outcome of the match in some doubt in case they dont re-sign Brock by Mania. If he's going back to UFC by April then the outcome will be in no doubt and the crowd will sh*t all over it if its just him Vs Reigns.

Regardless of what happens, short of a few Philly style reactions to him on TV over the next 5 weeks I cant see anyone but Reigns winning at Mania.

Raw is in LA, Pittsburgh and Chicago before WM. Could easily happen.

Rjd2 · 09-02-2015 8:18pm

Is that an actual story from the Observer?

I don't trust Rajah for anything at all.

Gerry Rio · 09-02-2015 9:00pm

And so it begins

Cianan2 · 09-02-2015 9:06pm

Is it just me or has having only one champion really affected Wrestlemania plans since Orton won both belts?

mrkiscool2 · 09-02-2015 9:12pm

Cianan2 wrote: »

Is it just me or has having only one champion really affected Wrestlemania plans since Orton won both belts?

Nope. The title already seems bigger for it and there is no fear of the other title (WHC) being treated like an afterthought. The main title should always be built around what the road to WM is about and when you had two some of the magic was lost.

Moneymaker · 09-02-2015 9:39pm

Cianan2 wrote: »

Is it just me or has having only one champion really affected Wrestlemania plans since Orton won both belts?

The Champion should be the focal point of the show and he should be the best on the roster.

The WHC died a death around the time Rey won it. Taker and Edge and even CM Punk lifted the WHC back up again, Swagger absolutely killed it then. He had no business being World Champion.

You could argue having two world titles means more chances for the likes of Ziggler, Cesaro, Sandow, Ambrose, Barrett etc but I think having one title is best.

chopperbyrne · 09-02-2015 9:48pm

They should also drop one of the midcard titles (US) and only have Tag, Intercontinental and World.

The midcard would be so much better if there were 10 - 12 guys who were all booked to be in the running for one belt.

09-02-2015 10:03pm

Can Rollins use his contract at Wrestlemania?

mrkiscool2 · 09-02-2015 10:06pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Can Rollins use his contract at Wrestlemania?

Yup, he can use it anytime between now and MITB

rovert · 09-02-2015 10:17pm

Highlander Drew McDonald passed away from Cancer tonight:

Used to wrestle along with the likes of Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks on ITV. Went on to be fixture on the British Indie scene for the next 20 years or so. Then become the UK talent scout for WWE spotting the likes of Paige, Sheamus, Drew McIntyre, Wade Barrett etc. A deceivingly looking kind man.

mrkiscool2 · 10-02-2015 9:41am

So Rollins is in real risk of being fired. According to a "Morality Clause" in all active talent's contracts, any nude/pornographic pictures or videos that can be found online of the talent signing the contract is instant grounds for dismissal and blacklisting from the company. Will be interesting to see what happens!

thebostoncrab · 10-02-2015 9:52am

I'd say he will be fine, it was his fiancée who uploaded the photo onto Twitter. What might land him in hot water though is posting the nude photo of Zahra Schreiber since it popped up on WWEs website.

mrkiscool2 · 10-02-2015 9:54am

thebostoncrab wrote: »

I'd say he will be fine, it was his fiancée who uploaded the photo onto Twitter. What might land him in hot water though is posting the nude photo of Zahra Schreiber since it popped up on WWEs website.

It comes at the worst possible time though. After Triple H's comments about Chyna he kind of has no choice but to punish him.

Moneymaker · 10-02-2015 10:51am

So Rollins is losing the case it's safe to say.

****

rovert · 10-02-2015 11:12am

https://twitter.com/WWERollins/status/565013320806445057

mrkiscool2 · 10-02-2015 11:17am

Ya have to feel just a little bit sorry for the chap. Is he a prick for cheating? Most definitely but all the same the mistake is going to set him back at least a year. Just really poor timing. He is too good to not feel sorry for the chap.

Cheese Wagstaff · 10-02-2015 11:18am

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

Ya have to feel just a little bit sorry for the chap. Is he a prick for cheating? Most definitely but all the same the mistake is going to set him back at least a year. Just really poor timing. He is too good to not feel sorry for the chap.

This is devastating :mad:

rovert · 10-02-2015 11:21am

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

Ya have to feel just a little bit sorry for the chap. Is he a prick for cheating? Most definitely but all the same the mistake is going to set him back at least a year. Just really poor timing. He is too good to not feel sorry for the chap.

PWInsider says there's no heat on him. It was a hack and the pictures were posted on several social media accounts a number of times. Seth deleted what he could. WWE sent out a memo to all employees not to talk about it in respect of Seth.

mrkiscool2 · 10-02-2015 11:26am

rovert wrote: »

PWInsider says there's no heat on him. It was a hack and the pictures were posted on several social media accounts a number of times. Seth deleted what he could. WWE sent out a memo to all employees not to talk about it in respect of Seth.

Was it really a hack? If so that's awful cause his fiancee showed him in his birthday suit!

rovert · 10-02-2015 11:44am

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

Was it really a hack? If so that's awful cause his fiancee showed him in his birthday suit!

His fiancee was the hacker.

Pentecost · 10-02-2015 11:45am

So the picture or pictures of Zarah were actually his then?

leggo · 10-02-2015 11:52am

Any word on the Chyna/Russo interview? Can't find anything anywhere. He appears to have zero subscribers! Unsurprising, since my first reaction was why the hell would anyone pay for Russo content, but still. :pac:

rovert · 10-02-2015 11:58am

Pentecost wrote: »

So the picture or pictures of Zarah were actually his then?

His. Rollins seemed to be seeing or saw other women besides his fiance and Zahra too. Seth and Zahra are in a wrestler/musician clique than is known for shagging around.

ricero · 10-02-2015 12:04pm

rovert wrote: »

His. Rollins seemed to be seeing or saw other women besides his fiance and Zahra too. Seth and Zahra are in a wrestler/musician clique than is known for shagging around.

Whos in this clique ?

Moneymaker · 10-02-2015 12:07pm

rovert wrote: »

His. Rollins seemed to be seeing or saw other women besides his fiance and Zahra too. Seth and Zahra are in a wrestler/musician clique than is known for shagging around.

Infidelity is rampant in wrestling in fairness. Comes with the job and the non stop travel schedule I suppose.

briany · 10-02-2015 12:33pm

Everybody tell all those 8 year olds to stop googling Rollins RIGHT NOW.

mrkiscool2 · 10-02-2015 12:37pm

Ya have to love the "things longer than rollins" hashtag though!

Hashtag_HEEL · 10-02-2015 1:08pm

Let's hope Trips kids never Google "Katie Vick" or "Triple H and Stephanie McMahon, Vegas wedding"

briany · 10-02-2015 1:29pm

Hashtag_HEEL wrote: »

Let's hope Trips kids never Google "Katie Vick" or "Triple H and Stephanie McMahon, Vegas wedding"

Agent Coulson · 10-02-2015 1:32pm

Hashtag_HEEL wrote: »

Let's hope Trips kids never Google "Katie Vick" or "Triple H and Stephanie McMahon, Vegas wedding"

Lets hope the don't Google Mommy and Macho Man.:eek:

briany · 10-02-2015 1:48pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Lets hope the don't Google Mommy and Macho Man.:eek:

That's a rumour you hear quite a bit. What you don't hear so much is credible sources to go with it.

Zack Morris · 10-02-2015 2:16pm

briany wrote: »

That's a rumour you hear quite a bit. What you don't hear so much is credible sources to go with it.

Meltzer thinks it's true.

briany · 10-02-2015 2:31pm

Zack Morris wrote: »

Meltzer thinks it's true.

Did Meltzer mention the source of his information or is it more of a general 'being around the business thing'?

This'll be the biggest story in wrestling for the week or so. Jericho or Stone Cold can't say anything on their podcasts because they're kind of affiliated with WWE. I wonder which podcast will run with it?

leggo · 10-02-2015 2:45pm

briany wrote: »

That's a rumour you hear quite a bit. What you don't hear so much is credible sources to go with it.

The same thing used to be said about Jimmy Snuka. Most of those crazy rumours eventually die, the Snuka and Savage one's are those that keep popping up (and the Hogan family ones too actually). And all it would take to kill it is something simple like Stephanie denying it in an interview that they could easily have staged (ala Triple H with Austin). Why not do that over the years? The only reason not to do it is if you don't want to have Stephanie lie about what would've been a traumatic experience for her. That's the thing that hooks me.

We'll never know for sure either way though.

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