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    #122
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    Aircraft leasing - before I take a google into what it typically involves, it does sound fairly boring, no? Is it an enjoyable career?


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    #123
    Flimsy_Boat
    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭Flimsy_Boat


    thomasdylan wrote: »
    Dermatology is very competitive, there used to be only two Spr spots in the country. 585 points for medicine, then 5-6 years college, then intern, medical BST and medical memberships. Then applying for Dermatology spr which you won't get on straight away so a few years doing dermatology reg and research. Then Dermatology spr, then fellowship, then consultancy. It'd be a tough slog and 15 years of hard work to get there.

    I'm on this path now. My life hack is to become a GP then specialise in dermatology by obtaining various certificates. The best dermatologist in the west of Ireland is actually GP who works in Newcastle West in Co. Limerick. He mainly sees derm patients now due to his great reputation, and has a huge waiting list. I guarantee he is billing the HSE and patients the same rates as any dermatologist.


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    #124
    LawBoy2018
    Registered Users Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭LawBoy2018


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Aircraft leasing - before I take a google into what it typically involves, it does sound fairly boring, no? Is it an enjoyable career?

    Each to their own, I suppose. People who are interested in global markets/economics will find it interesting. The legal aspect of a career in aircraft leasing would typically involve compliance/breach of contracts & that sort of thing, which may not be everyone's cup of tea.


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    #125
    Flimsy_Boat
    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭Flimsy_Boat


    addaword wrote: »
    Lecturers in third level, most do very little, have great pay and salvage time off.

    This is the correct answer.

    At the medical schools, administrators are earning north of 225k per year. It is all public info.


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    #126
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,468 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Flimsy_Boat wrote: »
    I'm on this path now. My life hack is to become a GP then specialise in dermatology by obtaining various certificates. The best dermatologist in the west of Ireland is actually GP who works in Newcastle West in Co. Limerick. He mainly sees derm patients now due to his great reputation, and has a huge waiting list. I guarantee he is billing the HSE and patients the same rates as any dermatologist.

    I think you should probably understand the billing relationship between the HSE and GPs before you go making any major decisions.
    Flimsy_Boat wrote: »
    This is the correct answer.

    At the medical schools, administrators are earning north of 225k per year. It is all public info.

    By administrators, you mean the medical consultants, right? Maybe you could point to some examples of the public info for clarity/


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    #127
    Figel Narage
    Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭Figel Narage


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Aircraft leasing - before I take a google into what it typically involves, it does sound fairly boring, no? Is it an enjoyable career?

    I guess its in the name. Im not in that world but i have some friends who are. My understanding, Some funds usually linked to banks will buy planes and lease them out to airlines. Regarding salary someone mentioned them here and from the anecdotal evidence i have, the guy i know was on 66k out of college. However, he did the Smurfit Aircraft finance masters and a fair few internships which may no doubt helped him stand out from other candidates and by God its competitive. Again he could be lying for all i know regarding salary so if anyone here thinks the number is too high, I agree, i was shocked when he told me. But he is having to work for it make no mistake, very long hours, a fair bit of responsibility and he's also had to fly to places like Kenya on not much notice. Wouldnt be for me personally but to each their own


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    #128
    Outkast_IRE
    Registered Users Posts: 7,515 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    I am currently a consultant engineer in mechanical building services. Like alot of engineering the renumeration for the workload and stress is just not really compatible, currently all on pay freezes and bonuses cancelled even though we are as busy as ever.

    Looking at retraining as a pilot in a few years time, going to keep that to myself and keep saving till i have enough to push quickly through a modular training programme while working. The roughly 35k starting salary for a pilot would not be far off what im earning in engineering , but the top end for a pilot is way higher than engineering.


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    #129
    mcko
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    Operators in Pharma in Cork 100k a year would be the average.


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    #130
    Blacktie.
    Registered Users Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    Currently looking at switching careers in the next year or so to a data analyst position. I'm coming from a mechanical engineering background and will be finishing a h dip at the end of this year. Has anyone a good idea of salary expectations and growth potential? Or any articles that could be of interest in getting an idea of their day to day roles.


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    #131
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,016 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    LawBoy2018 wrote: »
    You're dead right, it's definitely the right call! As a contractor in IT, would you be paying the 12.5% corporate tax rate or the 20%?
    I'm not an accountant but from experience corp tax is irrelevant because doesn't make sense to make a taxable profit. It's better to dump any excess in an executive pension plan until you are at the point when normal investment growth will get you to a 2.2m fund on retirement.


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    #132
    Flimsy_Boat
    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭Flimsy_Boat


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    I think you should probably understand the billing relationship between the HSE and GPs before you go making any major decisions.

    By administrators, you mean the medical consultants, right? Maybe you could point to some examples of the public info for clarity/

    Yes they are consultants but their public salary info only refers to their administrative work, such as running the medical school or teaching. Anything they do clinically is extra. I don't need to post it as it is a google search away for anyone who is interested. I already know this and don't need to take my valuable time to prove it to anyone.


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    #133
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    With Springboard's 2020 applications opening tomorrow 25th june - I'm hoping to enrol on a postgrad diploma/cert/Masters and get out of construction.

    Unfortunately springboard's prep has been pretty terrible this year, earlier this week they just uploaded an excel file with a list of all courses, no further info, so once it opens tomorrow it's first come first served - may interest some of you.

    In my mid-late 20s I actually don't know which one to take the plunge on. Would love to get it out of the way in 1 year, don't think I'd last another 2 years part time outside of working having done a bachelors degree that route before.


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    #134
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    Interested Observer wrote: »
    There's absolutely loads of stuff online, look for any intro to SQL, and if you get through that into to Python courses. Personally, I had a numerate/technical background already so did a masters in analytics.

    I worked on a project in a bank for a while, and let's just say they don't tend to be the most dynamic of workplaces.

    was thinking of doing a data analytics postgrad but having did a few of those intros on datacamp website yesterday evening it's put me off it completely. Incredibly boring, obviously others find it fulfilling!


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    #135
    thomasdylan
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    Flimsy_Boat wrote: »
    I'm on this path now. My life hack is to become a GP then specialise in dermatology by obtaining various certificates. The best dermatologist in the west of Ireland is actually GP who works in Newcastle West in Co. Limerick. He mainly sees derm patients now due to his great reputation, and has a huge waiting list. I guarantee he is billing the HSE and patients the same rates as any dermatologist.


    Dermatology is a common special interest for GPs. It very hard to differentiate yourself now as loads of GPs have the UCD and Cardiff courses done.

    The GP you're talking about won't be billing the HSE dermatologist rates. That's not the way it works anyway.


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    #136
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,016 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Outkast_IRE wrote: »
    I am currently a consultant engineer in mechanical building services. Like alot of engineering the renumeration for the workload and stress is just not really compatible, currently all on pay freezes and bonuses cancelled even though we are as busy as ever.

    Looking at retraining as a pilot in a few years time, going to keep that to myself and keep saving till i have enough to push quickly through a modular training programme while working. The roughly 35k starting salary for a pilot would not be far off what im earning in engineering , but the top end for a pilot is way higher than engineering.

    I guy I worked with in the UK was doing very well in IT consulting but fancied a change of scene so he spent some years (can't remember how many) getting the relevant PPL etc and quit his job in summer 2001. :D


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    #137
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    I know it’s been said on here as a joke, but what does the typical tax evader, social welfare-getter, cash in hand man get in Ireland per year? Even forgetting any extra cash jobs, what’s the salary per year. They’re the ones laughing. Straight into a new social house


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    #138
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,468 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    I know it’s been said on here as a joke, but what does the typical tax evader, social welfare-getter, cash in hand man get in Ireland per year? Even forgetting any extra cash jobs, what’s the salary per year. They’re the ones laughing. Straight into a new social house

    Straight into the new house? Have all the 5-10 year waiting lists been cleared?


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    #139
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    I wouldn’t have a clue! Sure if they’re still at home with Ma n Da they’re even better off


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    #140
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,468 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Flimsy_Boat wrote: »
    Yes they are consultants but their public salary info only refers to their administrative work, such as running the medical school or teaching. Anything they do clinically is extra. I don't need to post it as it is a google search away for anyone who is interested. I already know this and don't need to take my valuable time to prove it to anyone.
    So which medical schools were you referring to please?


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    #141
    Outkast_IRE
    Registered Users Posts: 7,515 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Lumen wrote: »
    I guy I worked with in the UK was doing very well in IT consulting but fancied a change of scene so he spent some years (can't remember how many) getting the relevant PPL etc and quit his job in summer 2001. :D
    If you had the cash in your pocket , in Ireland you could get through the PPL i reckon in about 14-18 months comfortably. But of course thats only step 1 on the ladder. I think the integrated courses where you would have you CPL after 14 months are about 70-80K but you would hope to be straight into a job afterwards.
    I am going to do a lesson this summer and see if i have the itch for it.


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    #142
    Outkast_IRE
    Registered Users Posts: 7,515 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    I know it’s been said on here as a joke, but what does the typical tax evader, social welfare-getter, cash in hand man get in Ireland per year? Even forgetting any extra cash jobs, what’s the salary per year. They’re the ones laughing. Straight into a new social house
    Its very easy to fall into this line of thinking, you are better off looking at it from the other angle. Will they ever own a home ? Travel further than the cheapest package to spain they can afford ? Will they support their kids and education to help them to better themselves later in life ? Alot of them are just living week to week can barely afford a car etc.

    Its an easy life in one sense but there are plenty of parts about it that are pretty bleak.


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    #143
    LawBoy2018
    Registered Users Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭LawBoy2018


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    I wouldn’t have a clue! Sure if they’re still at home with Ma n Da they’re even better off

    There's no need to be salty towards others because you're not happy with with your own circumstances. A person being unable to move out of their home for financial reasons is no fun for anyone involved. Thankfully I've been independent since I moved away for college at 18 but many of my friends weren't so fortunate and I can see how it affected/affects their mental health.


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    #144
    nibtrix
    Registered Users Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭nibtrix


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    With Springboard's 2020 applications opening tomorrow 25th june - I'm hoping to enrol on a postgrad diploma/cert/Masters and get out of construction.

    Unfortunately springboard's prep has been pretty terrible this year, earlier this week they just uploaded an excel file with a list of all courses, no further info, so once it opens tomorrow it's first come first served - may interest some of you.

    In my mid-late 20s I actually don't know which one to take the plunge on. Would love to get it out of the way in 1 year, don't think I'd last another 2 years part time outside of working having done a bachelors degree that route before.

    I did the Graduate Diploma in Management of Operations with DCU through Springboard, over the course of a year. It's a good course, but very intensive if you're also working full time (essentially it's a 2 year course which they compress into 1 year for Springboard applicants).


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    #145
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    LawBoy2018 wrote: »
    There's no need to be salty towards others because you're not happy with with your own circumstances. A person being unable to move out of their home for financial reasons is no fun for anyone involved. Thankfully I've been independent since I moved away for college at 18 but many of my friends weren't so fortunate and I can see how it affected/affects their mental health.

    So have I but my friends living at home still are the ones with all the money, primed to buy.


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    #146
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    was thinking of doing a data analytics postgrad but having did a few of those intros on datacamp website yesterday evening it's put me off it completely. Incredibly boring, obviously others find it fulfilling!

    Data Analytics is an acquired taste - but at least the resurgence of machine learning has made it more interesting again. Suites folks who:
    * Enjoy Stats
    * Have a good intuitive feel for patterns and trends
    * Can articulate well (tell stories about the data)

    Bonus marks:
    * Coding skills
    * Ability to visualize data


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    #147
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Outkast_IRE wrote: »
    If you had the cash in your pocket , in Ireland you could get through the PPL i reckon in about 14-18 months comfortably. But of course thats only step 1 on the ladder. I think the integrated courses where you would have you CPL after 14 months are about 70-80K but you would hope to be straight into a job afterwards.
    I am going to do a lesson this summer and see if i have the itch for it.

    Don't want to be a downer, but there is going to be a lot of spare pilots around for the next 2 to 5 years...


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    #148
    Outkast_IRE
    Registered Users Posts: 7,515 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    schmoo2k wrote: »
    Don't want to be a downer, but there is going to be a lot of spare pilots around for the next 2 to 5 years...
    I generally find it better not to think about the now , when planning for what realistically in my time frame is probably 4-5 years before i would have a CPL or be in a position to be looking for jobs.

    Its like the construction field during the downturn , nobody was taking the courses , by the time i finished my engineering degree in 2015 i had a contract signed at the start of March for a job, all of my class were actively sought out and employed before they even sat an exam. If we had based our decision on what was happening in 2011-2012 nobody would of done the course.


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    #149
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users Posts: 28,468 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    I wouldn’t have a clue! Sure if they’re still at home with Ma n Da they’re even better off

    Better off? Have you tried living in your parents house with a child or two?

    Was that the only exaggeration in your post?


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    #150
    FFVII
    Registered Users Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    Meteorology

    Specifically in Ireland.

    They get sacked in alot of countries for always being wrong but not here.


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    #151
    Walnut Salad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34 ✭Walnut Salad


    The best careers are the ones that give you a real work life balance - Decent salary for no more than 40 hours a week.
    The public sector is the best place to find those kind of jobs. You also get better holidays. So many people slave to their
    employers and miss their children growing up etc. I moved from the private sector to the public sector 14 years ago and I
    had a complete mindset change. Work to live only. Never more than 37 hours a week.


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