Cages are what animals are put in...

DeVore · 16-07-2010 1:45am #1

....animals that are too savage to be allowed out, or even put on a leash.

Its not a good mental image, 's'all I'm saying.

DeV.

mikey1 · 16-07-2010 2:43am

DeVore wrote: »

....animals that are too savage to be allowed out, or even put on a leash.

Its not a good mental image, 's'all I'm saying.

DeV.

Your Stirring it up now Dev!

Is this the new home for that topic again!

EnjoyChoke · 16-07-2010 9:06am

DeVore wrote: »

....animals that are too savage to be allowed out, or even put on a leash.

Its not a good mental image, 's'all I'm saying.

DeV.

Is that why they keep your sister in one?

Trashbat · 16-07-2010 9:06am

A six year old girl keeping a pet hamster named Fluffy in a cage is probably the least violent image i can think of right now.

DeVore · 16-07-2010 12:12pm

Come on, you know I'm a fan, obviously I'm being contentious. I'm just saying its not the greatest term for a sport we want to have taken seriously. My point in the OP is that if you had a "grrrrr" sort of reaction to my comment, then you should stop and think of how using that word impacts on how people see the sport.

This is what the world thinks of when it uses that word.

Just food for thought.

If we dont want the public and by extension the media to paint us as wild animals (human cock-fighting anyone?) then maybe we should shy away from describing ourselves in those terms...

DeV.

cowzerp · 16-07-2010 12:31pm

DeVore wrote: »

Come on, you know I'm a fan, obviously I'm being contentious. I'm just saying its not the greatest term for a sport we want to have taken seriously. My point in the OP is that if you had a "grrrrr" sort of reaction to my comment, then you should stop and think of how using that word impacts on how people see the sport.

This is what the world thinks of when it uses that word.

Just food for thought.

If we dont want the public and by extension the media to paint us as wild animals (human cock-fighting anyone?) then maybe we should shy away from describing ourselves in those terms...

DeV.

I fully agree with you, the term Cage fighter is stupid, you dont hear kickboxers calling themselves Ring fighters-The only people who refer to themselves as Cage fighters are wannabee hard men or just people who dont understand how stupid it sounds..

EnjoyChoke · 16-07-2010 1:16pm

MMA is a violent and extreme sport that is held in a cage. Let's not pretend otherwise.
There are many people who will have a problem with the violent and bloody aspects of the sport and will not watch because of this. There are people who aren't as squeamish. I don't think either set is swayed one way or the other by the word "cage".

racso1975 · 16-07-2010 1:54pm

DeVore wrote: »

Come on, you know I'm a fan, obviously I'm being contentious. I'm just saying its not the greatest term for a sport we want to have taken seriously. My point in the OP is that if you had a "grrrrr" sort of reaction to my comment, then you should stop and think of how using that word impacts on how people see the sport.

This is what the world thinks of when it uses that word.

Just food for thought.

If we dont want the public and by extension the media to paint us as wild animals (human cock-fighting anyone?) then maybe we should shy away from describing ourselves in those terms...

DeV.

Hmm when i clicked the link a pic of Nicholas Cage came up!!!! I see what you mean about it having a negative effect on the sport!!!

Sid_Justice · 16-07-2010 2:43pm

Not sure exactly what the issue is? Stop calling a fighting arena with a soft wire mesh a cage or stop using the word cage to describe MMA events?

Think this is an entire non-issue. I'd rather persevere and have the term cage when described with fighting become synonymous with MMA and not with pit fighting.

_oveless · 16-07-2010 2:57pm

MarkFairman · 16-07-2010 3:01pm

Oh wow,

Wish that was real!!

fizzynicenice · 16-07-2010 3:02pm

DeVore wrote: »

This is what the world thinks of when it uses that word.

Just food for thought.

Haha, This is the first image that came up on that search for me

Serioulsy, totally agree tho, hate the term cage fighter. The media uses it to portray the sport negatively.

Clive · 16-07-2010 3:24pm

The general public don't know what MMA is. They do know what cagefighting is - trying to get people to use one term over another is as pointless as trying to get people to say soccer instead of football.

I always use the term human cockfighting anyway.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 16-07-2010 3:41pm

Clive wrote: »

The general public don't know what MMA is. They do know what cagefighting is - trying to get people to use one term over another is as pointless as trying to get people to say soccer instead of football.

I always use the term human cockfighting anyway.

+1.

I'm loath to call it 'cage fighting', but I've often found when talking to the ignorant that I've referred to MMA as 'Cage Fighting' and usually got back "Ah, I know what you mean now".

'Cage Fighting' - I cringe, but it cover's what it is really.

When I'm over my dislocated ankle I'll be back 'mat fighting' soon

DeVore · 16-07-2010 4:59pm

I'm off to do some "gym fighting" where I will indulge in some "kick bagging" I expect.

:P

DeV.

MrStuffins · 16-07-2010 7:51pm

Indeed it's a bad term, but they fight in a cage, simple as (unless they fight in a ring :P)

I really try not to use the word "Cage", if i'm talking about UFC i use the word Octagon..... but for other orgs who use the cage i can never think of another word?

Any ideas?

Sid_Justice · 16-07-2010 8:08pm

Like rings are supposed to circular, don't see why you can't call a MMA cage a MMA ring if you so wished.

Gitb1 · 16-07-2010 10:58pm

_oveless wrote: »

I LOVE THAT GAME!!!

El_Drago · 16-07-2010 11:21pm

In its early days, the UFC was advertised as both a bloodsport and cagefighting. Fortuntely, when Zuffa bought the UFC that changed. Personally I hate the term and don't know of any MMA fighter who refers to it as such. However, it is a widely used term by the many "hardman" who have some training under their belt.

DeVore · 17-07-2010 1:31am

Its not a cage if you can jump up and over it.

DeV.

DeVore · 17-07-2010 1:52am

by the way, I feel slightly embarrassed. I certainly mean no disrespect to any existing promoters or anyone who has used the term. I was just interested in promoting (provoking) some thoughts and discussion about the public view and the media perception of the sport. I wasnt having a sly dig at anyone. I'm not part of the "irish scene" in that sense and all I wanted was a provocative subject line to engage the community. I'm not "having a go" at anyone.

Trust me, when I want to have a go, I tend to be a lot clearer

DeV.

unknown13 · 17-07-2010 2:37am

TBH, I prefer the term I am a "cage fighter" as opposed to: "I practice UFC"

Clive · 17-07-2010 3:33am

El_Drago wrote: »

Personally I hate the term and don't know of any MMA fighter who refers to it as such. However, it is a widely used term by the many "hardman" who have some training under their belt.

I don't know any fighter who doesn't use the term cagefighting when talking to normal people. People who know will say "oh MMA" or "oh, like the UFC", but anything else smacks of Maverick telling Charlie he's a Naval Aviator rather than a pilot.

Anakin.S · 19-07-2010 10:28am

People are always going to use the term 'Cage Fighter' when so many promotions insist on using the word 'Cage' in the name of their promotion.

To get people to stop using the term 'Cage Fighter' the word 'Cage' needs to be removed from the MMA vocabulary

colinlaird000 · 21-07-2010 12:04pm

Not that i fight any more, but i tended just to say i trained in bjj with a bit of muay thai, and occasionally fought in mixed martial arts comps. Its amazing that most normal people haven't a clue on whats involved other than the marketing gimmick buzzwords, like ground and pound, etc. I might just be brand our club UFC wrestling, and see if the numbers pick up.

Its not a cage, its a fenced area. I work for the local council and am involved with the installation on play areas. They use pretty much exactly the same kind of fencing. I reckon they should call playgrounds "Cages", and see how that goes down. Its a matted, fenced area, both of which are for the atheletes protection. I really wish the media would get over it.

And pit fighter was a class game! Aaah back in the day when you had to go to the arcades down the high street to play good games! Just like in terminator 2. God i feel old.

rovert · 22-07-2010 1:03pm

Sorry to break into this hilarious thread but isn’t it's premise a bit silly when fighters still referring to themselves as Cage Fighters as a holdover from the 90s and there is a MMA clothing brand called Cage Fighter just for examples. I don’t think the general public should be chided for being influenced by their was first exposure to the sport in other words reading about John McCain trying to be ban and as well how effectively SEG branded the UFC initially.

So sorry if it takes a while to be reposition a brand from being "banned in 36 states" with blood splats added to posters and ads to the modern day "we have rulez now" MMA/UFC.

Wasnt "Pit Fighter" Tank Abbot's discipline?

EnjoyChoke · 22-07-2010 1:55pm

I was thinking of changing my name by deed poll to "Cagey Mc Cage Fighter"

rovert · 22-07-2010 2:06pm

EnjoyChoke wrote: »

I was thinking of changing my name by deed poll to "Cagey Mc Cage Fighter"

Dont your username is class.

EnjoyChoke · 22-07-2010 2:56pm

rovert wrote: »

Dont your username is class.

I'm upset you don't like it.

Cages are what animals are put in...

Comments