General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in OP [Updated 01 March 21]

Jim beglin giving out over the penalty and red card.

Didn't realise Fernandes was playing tbh.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It does though
VAR needs to get these decisions right
No attempt to play the ball and a foul on the last man
They got it right for an change in this match

Sure. OK. Cool.

SlickRic wrote: »

It doesn't matter, the game is over.

But Martial was on his way over.

Yeah it was clear that Martial took a dive and was on his way down before any challenge was made.

But because he got clipped mid dive with the feintest of touches, it counts as a foul and no attempt to play the ball and straight red.

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Ludicrous decision to award the red card .

Why?
The ref must have felt martial was getting onto the ball.

Fitz* wrote: »

Yeah it was clear that Martial took a dive and was on his way down before any challenge was made.

But because he got clipped mid dive with the feintest of touches, it counts as a foul and no attempt to play the ball and straight red.

That's it in a nutshell.

As I say, it doesn't matter really. Southampton have been walloped. But I just feel for the defender and team who suffer a double punishment in that scenario.

davemckenna25 wrote: »

But the VAR showed it was offside and Martial was clipped by the defender... you might not like the decisions but they were correct.

Martial dived. Him getting some contact on the way down doesn’t justify a penalty and a red. Premier League officiating is at its worst right now and it’s not much to do with VAR.

Great result and Utd battered them first half. Should have probably had a peno, Adams was never off side and that was not a peno for the second red for me

Cavani should start every game from now till end of season in my opinion! Different class

Premier League referees and VAR are killing the game.

Those Luiz and Bednarek red cards, the slow motion reviewing of real-time incidents, the bizarre offside decisions, it's just draining the joy from the game.

davemckenna25 wrote: »

So you agree there was contact. He might have held back waiting for it but the contact happened so its a penalty. He was the last defender and made no attempt to play the ball...hence a red card. Its the rules.

He dived into the defender who was trying to pull out. You would get penalties in every game if that was all you had to do to win one.

Martial should have been booked and it left at that.

davemckenna25 wrote: »

So you agree there was contact. He might have held back waiting for it but the contact happened so its a penalty. He was the last defender and made no attempt to play the ball...hence a red card. Its the rules.

Its not. Contact per se does not automatically mean a penalty. If it did, there would be a penalty after every corner kick. Either the rules or the refs are now ridiculous. Oh for the days of Norman Hunter, Tommy Smith and Chopper Harris. When they tackled, it was a proper tackle.

So the highest ever wins in Premier league is 9-0 which has been done 3 times and Hasenhuttl has been on the receiving end for 2 of them? I like him as a manager but that's embarrassing

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I've seen a few such comments on different subjects about players reacting supposedly looking for attention today. This, and supposedly Connolly in deactivating his twitter - honestly, wtf like? Are people not allowed to just genuinely feel emotions for no other reason than that they feel emotion?

Ah stop he feel on his knees crying cause they beat Liverpool on there own ground,
Youd swear he was managing a Sunday league team and manged it

davemckenna25 wrote: »

So you agree there was contact. He might have held back waiting for it but the contact happened so its a penalty. He was the last defender and made no attempt to play the ball...hence a red card. Its the rules.

I'm not debating if he looked for it, he did but it happened and those are the rules.

there could be a debate there.

players are honest, and maybe get a peno or goal. or nothing

players stay up, potentially **** the chance and not get the peno.

dont know what the solution is, but i would presume teams have done the research and have deemed it better ROI on going down. thats a ref issue

Enjoyed that.

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Enjoyed that.

I don't know how any fan could enjoy such a one sided affair. I'd prefer a goalless draw in a junior match to that.

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Ah stop he feel on his knees crying cause they beat Liverpool on there own ground,
Youd swear he was managing a Sunday league team and manged it

Why is everything about Liverpool?


It's actually a compliment to Liverpool that he was crying.

Really don't think you can read much into that from Southampton perspective. Being wrecked by injuries and having a lad who's starting his first ever game sent-off 90 seconds into the match mean that there's more than normal mitigating circumstances.

United will have enjoyed that though. Still can't believe how good Shaw looks. He was the man-of-the-match easily, despite only playing for half of it.