Access onto public road from field

upyaboyanow · 22-09-2020 10:22pm #1

Hi,

I bought a field (15 acres) recently, with a long access road into it (right of way).

But the field is bounding another small, fairly quiet road, and it would save me about 20 mins in a tractor if I could access the field from this small road.

What are my chances of just blown a hole in the ditch? Or if I went for planning, would i find it hard to get what I want?

All poor land, no houses nearby, or potential for building anything - boggy ground.

Just if I did blow a hole through the ditch without asking, if i had an accident later id be in trouble probably?

Also, there is an old gap in part of the ditch, but council have dug drain in front of it, and its covered in bryers. Any way of finding out if this was maybe once an access gate - any old osi maps that might show this?

cjpm · 22-09-2020 11:47pm

Old maps are unlikely to show entrances unless there was a laneway.

I think you don't need planning if the roadway is less than 4m wide (open to correction on that)

If it was me, easier to ask for forgiveness than permission

23-09-2020 1:25am

Old maps won't show field access

You also need to be careful when it comes to messing with drainage and ditches

Go talk to the local planning office, they will advise you

bobbyy gee · 23-09-2020 1:55am

Talk to a solicitor

http://www.cahirsolicitors.com/rights-of-way-over-farms-and-adjoining-lands

99nsr125 · 23-09-2020 1:58am

cjpm wrote: »

Old maps are unlikely to show entrances unless there was a laneway.

I think you don't need planning if the roadway is less than 4m wide (open to correction on that)

If it was me, easier to ask for forgiveness than permission

Do this /\

Twill be ok for a tractor

99nsr125 · 23-09-2020 1:59am

99nsr125 wrote: »

Do this /\

Twill be ok for a tractor

Stay away from the planning office

NedNew2 · 23-09-2020 6:50am

99nsr125 wrote: »

Stay away from the planning office

I disagree.

I'd phone the planning office, you don't have to give your name or exact location and you can ask in general terms. Nothing to lose by asking.

antix80 · 23-09-2020 7:09am

If you go the planning office route, make sure you tell them you there is an opening but it's overgrown (maybe thin out some hedges and stick a rusty gate against them)

Or just make a gap inconspicuous enough that will enlarge through usage and look like it's always been there.

As for an accident.. Consider blind bends, and whether cars already speed on the road. Get the road in front of the gate good and mucky with tyretracks so drivers will recognise an entrance

Car99 · 22-10-2020 10:34am

antix80 wrote: »

As for an accident.. Consider blind bends, and whether cars already speed on the road. Get the road in front of the gate good and mucky with tyretracks so drivers will recognise an entrance

Surly getting the road good and mucky is not a good idea seeing as you're required to clean up any such mess you leave on a public road

blindsider · 22-10-2020 11:50am

I know you say it's a quiet road...but is there any chance that the council ran cables of any kind alongside the drain?

A general enquiry might be no harm.....

Access onto public road from field

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