Songs from an empty room after hours shishe.

Man with broke phone · 25-07-2020 8:30pm #1

Staying in tonight. No friends. Anybody watching songs from an empty room. Looks absolute tripe but I'm going into hopefully because I'm 3 cans into my evening, let's be having you Gavin James or whoever.

Rte on now.

Man with broke phone · 25-07-2020 8:47pm

Mostly irish soft rock ****e with a one two three four baseline so as not to offend anybody. In the chorus they go one one two two three three four four.

micks_address · 25-07-2020 8:56pm

Was bressies mic switched off?

Your Face · 25-07-2020 8:59pm

Buy a guitar and stick it the man, dude.

Man with broke phone · 25-07-2020 9:00pm

micks_address wrote: »

Was bressies mic switched off?

He was just pulling mad faces wasnt he, must be a serious musician now.

Spanish Eyes · 25-07-2020 9:03pm

A family member is a professional muso, has backed the big gigs in the Point etc. Terrible times for them now, and the only things we seem to hear about are schools and pubs.

So many empty venues.

Man Vs ManUre · 25-07-2020 9:05pm

Is anybody donating money for these backstage workers to be given on top of their government assisted COVID allowance?? I’m not sure if I agree with the whole concept of this event??

Man with broke phone · 25-07-2020 9:06pm

This is pure RTE rave couldn't make it up

25-07-2020 9:07pm

Just turned it on.. good god..

Man with broke phone · 25-07-2020 9:23pm

Do teenagers listen to these people in their droves or do rte claim they do? It's like songs from California dreaming or some backround band in saved by the bell.

HBC08 · 25-07-2020 9:31pm

The Stunning are the most underrated Irish band ever.

The Coronas new tune is half decent.

Eoghan McDermott has the most punchable face of any human on the planet.

Man Vs ManUre · 25-07-2020 9:44pm

Few days ago the chauffeur company in Galway is on tv asking for cash. Now these gig workers are doing the same. Have they no shame?? When times are good for them do they be giving away their cash?? I dunno maybe they do but we don’t hear it. Does everyone who is out of work from the pandemic get charity?? What about all those who are poor before the pandemic happened?? I never got a chauffeur in Galway city but I assume they were outrageously expensive especially this week of the Galway races. Also going to gigs is a very expensive interest to have in Ireland.

Atlantic Dawn · 25-07-2020 9:46pm

Is all the ad money RTE are hovering in tonight for the show going towards the cause?

Man with broke phone · 25-07-2020 10:03pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Is all the ad money RTE are hovering in tonight for the show going towards the cause?

Be surprised if more than 200 people are watching after the first part.

25-07-2020 10:11pm

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

Few days ago the chauffeur company in Galway is on tv asking for cash. Now these gig workers are doing the same. Have they no shame?? When times are good for them do they be giving away their cash?? I dunno maybe they do but we don’t hear it. Does everyone who is out of work from the pandemic get charity?? What about all those who are poor before the pandemic happened?? I never got a chauffeur in Galway city but I assume they were outrageously expensive especially this week of the Galway races. Also going to gigs is a very expensive interest to have in Ireland.

RTE have just been chronic since the whole thing started.. every late late show was a 'give us money' affair.. how many different fundraisers have there been?.. but shur if dopes keep ringing in handing over cash can you blame them..

HBC08 · 25-07-2020 10:27pm

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

Is anybody donating money for these backstage workers to be given on top of their government assisted COVID allowance?? I’m not sure if I agree with the whole concept of this event??

I'm enjoying this more than i thought, but I have to agree with the above.

Man with broke phone · 25-07-2020 10:31pm

I like picture this, the lead singer seems sound but looks like a **** 80s bono.

Man Vs ManUre · 25-07-2020 10:31pm

I think the multi millionaire music stars who are pleading to the nation here for donations should be the ones supporting the lesser paid in their industry, if there is a reason for them to get any additional support to what’s already being paid by the state. Hozier and Niall Horan are not short of a few bob, let them sort them out. I don’t mind watching these gigs but giving a donation to this ‘charity’ you gotta be joking.

McGinniesta · 25-07-2020 10:36pm

HBC08 wrote: »

The Stunning are the most underrated Irish band ever.

The Coronas new tune is half decent.

Eoghan McDermott has the most punchable face of any human on the planet.

There are so many punchable faces.

Man Vs ManUre · 26-07-2020 1:50pm

Picture This and The Academic are pretty good young bands. They are refreshing to listen to instead of the hyped up bores Gavin James and Hozier crooning their emotions out. The Academic remind me of the strokes when they started out.

Sam Hain · 26-07-2020 2:02pm

HBC08 wrote: »

The Stunning are the most underrated Irish band ever.

The Coronas new tune is half decent.

Eoghan McDermott has the most punchable face of any human on the planet.

Only one of the statements above is true.

Acosta · 26-07-2020 2:05pm

Schlager muck

pajosjunkbox · 26-07-2020 3:11pm

Man Vs ManUre wrote:

Picture This and The Academic are pretty good young bands. They are refreshing to listen to instead of the hyped up bores Gavin James and Hozier crooning their emotions out. The Academic remind me of the strokes when they started out.

Impressed with the academic but less so with Picture This. Same old generic lyrics. Hozier and Gavin James are hard to listen to. Show everybody how emotional and fragile you are ... Sweet Jebus !

changeover · 08-08-2020 2:43am

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

I think the multi millionaire music stars who are pleading to the nation here for donations should be the ones supporting the lesser paid in their industry, if there is a reason for them to get any additional support to what’s already being paid by the state. Hozier and Niall Horan are not short of a few bob, let them sort them out. I don’t mind watching these gigs but giving a donation to this ‘charity’ you gotta be joking.

Tell me this, what sector do you work in and have you had your entire calender pulled out from under you since March until possibly 2022?

Man Vs ManUre · 08-08-2020 9:10am

changeover wrote: »

Tell me this, what sector do you work in and have you had your entire calender pulled out from under you since March until possibly 2022?

I work in computer science area. Thankfully I still have my job, private sector so there is no guarantee. But if I don’t have an income, I will happily take whatever social welfare the state gives me as have been a tax payer for more than 20 years. And there certainly would not be a tv show where the Collison brothers or some other tech millionaire is asking the public to give us charity.
You’re not exact ya starving Ethiopian. Get up off your arse and look for another job if you’re current one has ended.

Man Vs ManUre · 08-08-2020 9:15am

And U2 have made enough money from their Facebook shares alone to pay a decent wage to every single music industry worker on the country who are asking for public help here. And they don’t even follow this country tax rules.

changeover · 08-08-2020 10:31am

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

And U2 have made enough money from their Facebook shares alone to pay a decent wage to every single music industry worker on the country who are asking for public help here. And they don’t even follow this country tax rules.

Computers, I had a feeling you spent a lot of time behind a keyboard.

I have never worked with U2, I am fully tax complient for the last 20 of working in the industry.
Do you think that U2, Hozier, Harry Styles, Gavin James and whatever other names were mentioned are affiliated with every sound company, lighting company, catering company, trucking company, bussing company, staging company, tour manager, production manager and they should cover all of there asses?

While yes some of these acts do have a few bob there is zero money in albums anymore (thanks spotify) and their only real income is through gigs which as we know is gone.

Just reading through some of your other posts on different threads and I think you were saying you wanted to see more series involving illegal industries in Central America such as drug running and Narcos, I too love a good Barry Seal story but who do you think makes these shows, all of the above mentioned crew to an extent are involved so even the film industry is in knackered so options are very limited.

Up off my arse and get another job, you seem like a lovely person!!
A career change and retraining after 20 years is something that I am now going to have to look at, but the part that pisses me off about you and your statements is that the industry was perfectly viable, we have never once in the touring music sector looked for a bailout like airlines, banks, irish rail ect and the first time we do try and raise awareness people come down on us like a tropical ****storm.

We cannot do a drive in gig but yet we can have drive in movies and drive in bingo games, you have to admit that is stupid and we tried to change gigs and make a new normal and we were stopped like!!!

Man Vs ManUre · 08-08-2020 11:06am

changeover wrote: »

Computers, I had a feeling you spent a lot of time behind a keyboard.

I have never worked with U2, I am fully tax complient for the last 20 of working in the industry.
Do you think that U2, Hozier, Harry Styles, Gavin James and whatever other names were mentioned are affiliated with every sound company, lighting company, catering company, trucking company, bussing company, staging company, tour manager, production manager and they should cover all of there asses?

While yes some of these acts do have a few bob there is zero money in albums anymore (thanks spotify) and their only real income is through gigs which as we know is gone.

Just reading through some of your other posts on different threads and I think you were saying you wanted to see more series involving illegal industries in Central America such as drug running and Narcos, I too love a good Barry Seal story but who do you think makes these shows, all of the above mentioned crew to an extent are involved so even the film industry is in knackered so options are very limited.

Up off my arse and get another job, you seem like a lovely person!!
A career change and retraining after 20 years is something that I am now going to have to look at, but the part that pisses me off about you and your statements is that the industry was perfectly viable, we have never once in the touring music sector looked for a bailout like airlines, banks, irish rail ect and the first time we do try and raise awareness people come down on us like a tropical ****storm.

We cannot do a drive in gig but yet we can have drive in movies and drive in bingo games, you have to admit that is stupid and we tried to change gigs and make a new normal and we were stopped like!!!

Instead of investigating me and making judgements about my character, I suggest you put your efforts into securing employment if your current job is no longer providing. Either that or retire. Or I guess your 3rd option is that you receive the charity you seem to think you are entitled to.
Yeah I have a lot of interests in life. But if some come to an end for whatever reasons, I will move on with other interests.

Man Vs ManUre · 08-08-2020 11:14am

And for what it is worth I too am missing all that is stopped, and I wouldn’t even necessarily agree that these things should have been stopped. Hopefully they will be back soon.
I appreciate the hard work that goes into everything to make it all happen. As I have always appreciated the low paid supermarket workers that others would abuse or make comments about where they come from. Now I think we all appreciate them a bit more.
If you are a big reason for the success of Hozier and the likes, then he can give you the charity you are looking for.
Sounds like you would make a good detective so maybe that is an option for u. But be careful as even in that job you may need to spend some time in front of a computer. You’ve been a hippy for long enough, time to be an adult now.

changeover · 08-08-2020 12:44pm

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

Instead of investigating me and making judgements about my character, I suggest you put your efforts into securing employment if your current job is no longer providing. Either that or retire. Or I guess your 3rd option is that you receive the charity you seem to think you are entitled to.
Yeah I have a lot of interests in life. But if some come to an end for whatever reasons, I will move on with other interests.

Never once said I was entitled to charity, my main point for posting was to highlight the sheer devestation that people in this little known yet successful and formerly self sustaining industry are going through.

Orange Tiny Terror · 08-08-2020 12:50pm

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

And for what it is worth I too am missing all that is stopped, and I wouldn’t even necessarily agree that these things should have been stopped. Hopefully they will be back soon.
I appreciate the hard work that goes into everything to make it all happen. As I have always appreciated the low paid supermarket workers that others would abuse or make comments about where they come from. Now I think we all appreciate them a bit more.
If you are a big reason for the success of Hozier and the likes, then he can give you the charity you are looking for.
Sounds like you would make a good detective so maybe that is an option for u. But be careful as even in that job you may need to spend some time in front of a computer. You’ve been a hippy for long enough, time to be an adult now.

As long as you’re ok, **** everyone else isn’t that right 🙄

changeover · 08-08-2020 12:53pm

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

And for what it is worth I too am missing all that is stopped, and I wouldn’t even necessarily agree that these things should have been stopped. Hopefully they will be back soon.
I appreciate the hard work that goes into everything to make it all happen. As I have always appreciated the low paid supermarket workers that others would abuse or make comments about where they come from. Now I think we all appreciate them a bit more.
If you are a big reason for the success of Hozier and the likes, then he can give you the charity you are looking for.
Sounds like you would make a good detective so maybe that is an option for u. But be careful as even in that job you may need to spend some time in front of a computer. You’ve been a hippy for long enough, time to be an adult now.

I too am greatful for the guy who stocks shelves, they are out there in the middle of all of this surrounded by god knows who putting up all levels of abuse.

Your comments about being a hippy are not relevent to the topic, I'm far from "peace n love man" and everyone I know who works in the industry is an adult as its an industry that doesn't overly forgive errors and jokers, its like every other industry in that there is internal whispers about people and based on their past errors and stupid mistakes and based on your behaviour you work or you don't.

I'm sorry if I came across as being abrasive towards you, the current times and everything seems a bit strange at the moment as every weekend I should be in a venue or at a festival and I read your comments and saw red.

I do apologise.

If you do hear of a detective roll opening up I would be interested, I'd say the hours would be better, less travel and more family time!!!

Man Vs ManUre · 08-08-2020 1:09pm

changeover wrote: »

I too am greatful for the guy who stocks shelves, they are out there in the middle of all of this surrounded by god knows who putting up all levels of abuse.

Your comments about being a hippy are not relevent to the topic, I'm far from "peace n love man" and everyone I know who works in the industry is an adult as its an industry that doesn't overly forgive errors and jokers, its like every other industry in that there is internal whispers about people and based on their past errors and stupid mistakes and based on your behaviour you work or you don't.

I'm sorry if I came across as being abrasive towards you, the current times and everything seems a bit strange at the moment as every weekend I should be in a venue or at a festival and I read your comments and saw red.

I do apologise.

If you do hear of a detective roll opening up I would be interested, I'd say the hours would be better, less travel and more family time!!!

No worries mate, no need for apology and I also apologise to you. I only said the hippy thing as a response to you “I knew you are behind a computer...” thingy comment. And even as I typed it I knew how stupid and bizarre it was.
Anyway, I do understand all the hardships and I have every sympathy for all affected. And even in my posts, I mostly post for comic effects to be honest, but I go way overboard just for the sake of it.
Even in my own industry, it’s been decimated by cheap labour from abroad, as more and more companies follow a onshore/offshore model in maintaining their systems. And there are less opportunities the older you get. I wish I was the artistic type but never was, my only real skill was maths. I got an A1 in honour maths all those years ago and then just average grades in the rest, and I would even say I got 100% in the maths!!
And even though I was taking the extreme anti view of this show, I completely understood the hardship of those who work behind the scenes. I was just putting forward the views for debating and the effects.
Anyways sorry again, I hope you don’t have to retrain and all that and that things come back someway like before. If it wasn’t for film, music, theatre, comedy we are all a lot worse off.

veryangryman · 08-08-2020 1:15pm

Ugh. I hate it when internet debates dont end in a bareknuckcle fight arranged

changeover · 08-08-2020 1:20pm

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

No worries mate, no need for apology and I also apologise to you. I only said the hippy thing as a response to you “I knew you are behind a computer...” thingy comment. And even as I typed it I knew how stupid and bizarre it was.
Anyway, I do understand all the hardships and I have every sympathy for all affected. And even in my posts, I mostly post for comic effects to be honest, but I go way overboard just for the sake of it.
Even in my own industry, it’s been decimated by cheap labour from abroad, as more and more companies follow a onshore/offshore model in maintaining their systems. And there are less opportunities the older you get. I wish I was the artistic type but never was, my only real skill was maths. I got an A1 in honour maths all those years ago and then just average grades in the rest, and I would even say I got 100% in the maths!!
And even though I was taking the extreme anti view of this show, I completely understood the hardship of those who work behind the scenes. I was just putting forward the views for debating and the effects.
Anyways sorry again, I hope you don’t have to retrain and all that and that things come back someway like before. If it wasn’t for film, music, theatre, comedy we are all a lot worse off.

Labour and equipment from other companies abroad is also something we want to try and avoid, if Irish lighting, audio, staging ect hire companies go wallop we would have to look to the English and even then an English audio hire company announced a 50 person cull in their organisation on Wednesday so they too are in a shady position. Combine this with Brexit and getting equipment in from the UK to serve the Irish festival scene could prove to be a nightmare with carnets and customs so then we would have to look to Europe meaning the ticket price you normally pay would have to double....and prices are already too high.
There is the knock on effect and that is why we are high lighting this industry, its not living for the here and now, its trying to eliminate further job cuts and revenue leaving the country.

Man Vs ManUre · 08-08-2020 1:20pm

And I forgot to say my comments about getting a job were the most bizarre of all I said. They were the most ignorant, but also most for the sake of having a debate, of all I made. I wish society was a less capitalist one where there is such extreme of wealth. People working all hours in a shop should be paid somewhat similar type wages to those who are politicians, office workers who think they are highly skilled, influencers, entrepreneurs etc.

changeover · 08-08-2020 2:23pm

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

And I forgot to say my comments about getting a job were the most bizarre of all I said. They were the most ignorant, but also most for the sake of having a debate, of all I made. I wish society was a less capitalist one where there is such extreme of wealth. People working all hours in a shop should be paid somewhat similar type wages to those who are politicians, office workers who think they are highly skilled, influencers, entrepreneurs etc.

Your comments about getting another job are well founded and depending on the outcome it will be a new reality. During the last recession and the fall of the celtic tiger I worked, there were still shows, festivals, theatre work ect, the business while it claimed a few it still went forward, the shows still went on but this is a whole different ball game. Up until C19 it was a solid industry and in my head basing it on past events I thought again the show would go on. It survived foot and mouth, sars and numerous other threats that did have an effect but we overcame those with some yet minimal impact. Then not forgetting the unfortunate Bataclan attack in Paris, the mass shooting in Vegas, Manchester bombing during Ariana Grande....the lighting guy on that was Irish and I know him. We took this, heightend security and took all measures possible to prevent the likes of those attacks happening again and yet a bad flu for want of a term has shut us and so many others down, not an evil and vile attack but a virus.
Where I'm coming from is, a lot out people not in the industry may see us as pissed and stoned hippys who get away in life but that is far from the truth, we are productive and creative and we move with the times and are easily able to adapt towards what is going on in the world when it comes to crowd safety, security protocols, along with safe working practices but at the moment we are not able to adapt because we are not allowed to.

I know we started off on bad footing, I just wanted to state that while having a covid payment is a blessing it isnt enough, we want to work and we want the government to allow us to work and work with us but we are not being given a chance and the cancellation of drive in shows has proven this, yet we can go to drive in movies and bingo games. And again, after almost 20 years of paying taxes and supporting myself, having a calender for 2 years being pulled clean out from under me is something that is very hard to comprehend and deal with.

Stay safe and well!

Man Vs ManUre · 08-08-2020 2:44pm

changeover wrote: »

Your comments about getting another job are well founded and depending on the outcome it will be a new reality. During the last recession and the fall of the celtic tiger I worked, there were still shows, festivals, theatre work ect, the business while it claimed a few it still went forward, the shows still went on but this is a whole different ball game. Up until C19 it was a solid industry and in my head basing it on past events I thought again the show would go on. It survived foot and mouth, sars and numerous other threats that did have an effect but we overcame those with some yet minimal impact. Then not forgetting the unfortunate Bataclan attack in Paris, the mass shooting in Vegas, Manchester bombing during Ariana Grande....the lighting guy on that was Irish and I know him. We took this, heightend security and took all measures possible to prevent the likes of those attacks happening again and yet a bad flu for want of a term has shut us and so many others down, not an evil and vile attack but a virus.
Where I'm coming from is, a lot out people not in the industry may see us as pissed and stoned hippys who get away in life but that is far from the truth, we are productive and creative and we move with the times and are easily able to adapt towards what is going on in the world when it comes to crowd safety, security protocols, along with safe working practices but at the moment we are not able to adapt because we are not allowed to.

I know we started off on bad footing, I just wanted to state that while having a covid payment is a blessing it isnt enough, we want to work and we want the government to allow us to work and work with us but we are not being given a chance and the cancellation of drive in shows has proven this, yet we can go to drive in movies and bingo games. And again, after almost 20 years of paying taxes and supporting myself, having a calender for 2 years being pulled clean out from under me is something that is very hard to comprehend and deal with.

Stay safe and well!

These big, and small, shows will be back again, hopefully sooner than later. There is too much demand for entertainment, and throughout history humans need to be entertained. Even if crowds have to be spared for a little bit longer, the act can still put on a performance with all its bells and whistles. People won’t accept current situation going on for much longer than rest of this year. On the jobs thing, majority of people, myself included, are just not capable of changing their professions once you go beyond a certain age. Especially after spending so long at it, and in this new world where you have to be on Instagram and all the other silly things, it just makes it all so much more difficult.
I suppose things constantly change, this time last year nobody could have expected this. They will change again for the better.

Songs from an empty room after hours shishe.

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