Known individual not in civil register

shanew wrote: »

there's an extracted version of that marriage on FamilySearch

groom's name: John Brophy
bride's name: Jane Fagan
marriage date: 28 Aug 1866
marriage place: North Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
groom's father's name: James Brophy
bride's father's name: Bernard Fagan

Thanks, Shane. Her father's name knocks the birth record I had found out of contention. Oh well.

Herself feels that she should be contributing to this enterprise, and scored a useful hit: the youngest child appears in both the 1901 and 1911 census, and her place of birth is given as Dublin City. Wrong: the birth happened in Kilbride, on the Cavan-Meath border (church record found via rootsireland; civil record to confirm). It looks as if Jane Fegan/Brophy was visiting her daughter, and both of them had babies around the same time.

Lesson (probably not needed by most people, but you never know): do not rely on what is said in census returns, and be prepared to cast your net wider.

tyview wrote: »

Hi did the area for kilbride say cavan/meath? I was just thinking there is a kilbride just north of tyrrelstown and south of ratoath and Blanchardstown was Co. Dublin back then. Just thought I'd add it incase its useful.

Thank you for the suggestion. The church record puts it in Cavan; the civil record was made in Oldcastle, which is the other end of the county from Ratoath.

There are Kilbrides everywhere -- for example, two in Wicklow that I happen to know about. The name comes from the Irish Cill Bhríde, St. Brigid's church or monastic cell, so it shouldn't be a surprise that there are quite a few of them.

We are happy about fixing the location on the Meath-Cavan border, close to Mountnugent. We actually know the house that the family occupied: Herself was brought there on visits as a child, but it has long since passed out of the family. She and I went to see it last year (new territory for me) and the present owner was nice enough to invite us in and show her around. That's one of the nice things about a project like this: you get to experience the good side of people.

Many thanks, Dún.

We had great fun finding Flood Street. It no longer exists -- gone completely, not just re-named. It was between Ellis Quay and Benburb Street.

I read the groom's address as Queen Street. Do people agree?

I note his occupation was given as stone mason. In later records, he appears as a stone cutter. I had thought the occupations were distinct from one another.