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Atlantic Records boss steps down over black face

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    #32
    kwestfan08
    Registered Users Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭kwestfan08


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Free country and mostly a free world I see it as a non issue as is wanting to dress up as someone say you may idol ...

    Skin colour is just that a colour and the human being behind that skin is exactly that so I see them as equal as I do Asian, Eskimos and German....

    You can easily dress up as RUN DMC without blacking up. It's an adidas tracksuit and
    and over sized chain ffs.

    Would walk down any predominantly black neighbourhood dressed as Kanye West say then? If it's a non issue surely there would be no repercussions?


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    #33
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    No, but this is Ireland and we didn't have such a globalised society in 1992 we were more insular and there were no black people here. I probably wouldn't do it in 2019 though.

    Ooh ahh Paul McGrath doesn't exist
    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Some black people might be offended by it, so probably best avoided to black up, who cares, I don't know why people are so offended by not being able to do this without a bit of a furore.

    Aren't we so good protecting them


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    #34
    MetzgerMeister
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    kwestfan08 wrote: »
    You can easily dress up as RUN DMC without blacking up. It's an adidas tracksuit and
    and over sized chain ffs.

    You've just described Ali G :D


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    #35
    Bobblehats
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    Facism :eek:


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    #36
    [Deleted User]
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    Ready4Boarding wrote: »
    The thought of wearing blackface has never even crossed my mind.

    I'm going to assume that you never thought about it because you feel superior to black people!!!!

    Racist.


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    #37
    [Deleted User]
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    I wonder if you dressed in black face and put whiteface makeup on to dress up as a racist black person, who would be offended first?


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    #38
    Effects
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Skin colour is just that a colour and the human being behind that skin is exactly that so I see them as equal as I do Asian, Eskimos and German....

    You sound completely fake. Enough with the racist terms.


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    #39
    [Deleted User]
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Some black people might be offended by it, so probably best avoided to black up, who cares, I don't know why people are so offended by not being able to do this without a bit of a furore.

    That is not my problem. If it is not my intention to offend and I altered my appearance to look like someone who I admire 7 years ago, I don't think I should lose my job.

    Funny that this "appropriation" isn't an issue when a lad wants to wear a dress and piss in women's toilets. It's actually encouraged.

    Maybe this lad should have claimed to have identified as black for the duration of the party.


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    #40
    [Deleted User]
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    Effects wrote: »
    You sound completely fake. Enough with the racist terms.

    Can't tell if joking or not....


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    #41
    Thelonious Monk
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    That is not my problem. If it is not my intention to offend and I altered my appearance to look like someone who I admire 7 years ago, I don't think I should lose my job.

    Doesn't really matter what you think though does it


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    #42
    kowloon
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    Fart wrote: »
    Robert Downey Jr. next?

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    #43
    [Deleted User]
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Doesn't really matter what you think though does it

    Of course it does. Oh is it because I said it wasn't my problem if some found offense in something I had done without any malice?

    Exactly the same. Great comparison...:rolleyes:


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    #44
    B.A._Baracus
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    I hate everyone in these situations. The dopes who do it knowing people will get offended and the dopes getting offended at it. Fcuk sake.

    Think you just summed it up perfectly.


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    #45
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Omackeral wrote: »
    I hate everyone in these situations. The dopes who do it knowing people will get offended and the dopes getting offended at it. Fcuk sake.
    B.A._Baracus wrote: »
    Think you just summed it up perfectly.

    Thanks B.A.
    Omackeral wrote: »
    Neither does my family but my cousin dressed up as BA Baracas in 1992. Is he scum? I pity the fool who says he is.

    Sorry about the cuz, he was 8.


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    #46
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I dressed up as a black ghost before when I was a child.... It was that or go as a multicoloured sheet....

    I liked the black sheet as nobody could see me or well I as a child thought that....


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    #47
    Paddy Cow
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    Immortal Starlight wrote: »
    Stupid to leave his job because of this. He should have shown a bit of backbone and stayed.
    Despite what his statement says, no way was it his decision to leave such a high profile, high paying job ;)


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    #48
    Fann Linn
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I wonder if you dressed in black face and put whiteface makeup on to dress up as a racist black person, who would be offended first?


    If Sinead O Carroll from the Journal was reporting it would be described as 'a person of colour face'.

    Such utter bullsh1t this pc madness.


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    #49
    Mysterypunter
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    One of my mates was a cricketer, and he asked me why I played, I replied, I was the black sheep of the family, and he said he was the white sheep of his family. I am still laughing at that answer. He was a big black dude, with a London/Bajan accent, funny out. People who are looking to be offended always will be.


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    #50
    gormdubhgorm
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    Jayus, it is lucky the pasty Irish don't need black face

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #51
    Irish Guitarist
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    It seems they've gotten more offended at what people do at parties since the 1970s. Here's Jimmy Page and his 13 year old 'girlfriend' Lori Maddox at a party thrown by Atlantic Records.

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    #52
    enricoh
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    DavidLyons_ wrote: »
    +100. Bunch of w@nkers. I was delighted Trudeau was made to sweat when he did it because @ssholes like him are usually the ones flapping their gums in outrage when someone does things like that.

    Stormzy demanded your man be sacked apparently. Absolute thin-skinned tw@ts.

    On the plus side, this git is responsible for Sheeran’s rise. Good riddance to him before he does any more damage to the music business. Pity he couldn’t take Stormzy with him.

    They were on about stormzy on 2fm the other day - he's on the cover of time magazine this month apparently, good going . On about how influencial he is, a great guy that has set up a foundation to help black students.

    Imagine the outcry if some white singer said that he would only help white kids. 2fm would be in meltdown!


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    #53
    Paddy Cow
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    enricoh wrote: »
    They were on about stormzy on 2fm the other day - he's on the cover of time magazine this month apparently, good going . On about how influencial he is, a great guy that has set up a foundation to help black students.

    Imagine the outcry if some white singer said that he would only help white kids. 2fm would be in meltdown!
    I can understand the black vs white racism in America because there is a 400 year history of black people being enslaved and oppressed. What I can't understand is that culture being exported all around the world and people just going along with it. There is no reason why a white person in Ireland should feel any sort of guilt over slavery just because they're white, considering Ireland never went plundering and oppressing anyone. We were too busy being oppressed ourselves!


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    #54
    Paddy Cow
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    Bigbagofcans wrote: »
    How dare he!

    I wore cornrows recently cos the '90s are back in vogue and I got my hair pulled :(
    (not really. Cornrows aren't my thang.)

    We have so much freedom these days but yet we don't and have to watch everything we do or say in case someone gets offended.

    I'd be more liberal than conservative, but this getting offended by everything is really annoying.
    About 14 years ago my sister wanted to give me a full head of box braids. She said we could buy the hair in the African salon and do the braids ourselves. I agreed and we went along and bought the hair. The African woman didn't bat an eye and gave us tips on how to do it. It took us two days over the weekend and not one person gave me any agro over "cultural appropriation". I took them out after a week because they were too heavy and pulling on my hair at the roots. I bet if we did the same thing today I'd get loads of abusive comments because cultural appropriation is in these days.


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    #55
    RobbingBandit
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    You might want to change the thread title he dressed up as a member of Run DMC.

    Just for contextual sense and all that


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    #56
    SEPT 23 1989
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    Atlantic Records has probably done more for the black community than any other label

    But ignore that fact outraged ones


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    #57
    Irish Guitarist
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    This is blackface. What multi millionaire rappers are these people dressed as?

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    #58
    punisher5112
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    Effects wrote: »
    You sound completely fake. Enough with the racist terms.

    I do hope you're having a laugh as otherwise oh dear lord jebus you are some absolute nut imo.


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    #59
    [Deleted User]
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    RobbingBandit wrote: »
    You might want to change the thread title he dressed up as a member of Run DMC.

    Just for contextual sense and all that

    I agree. Sorry.

    Like many terms, overuse and misuse has broadened the phrase to encapsulate anything from traditional blackface right up to a lad wearing too much fake tan on dancing with the stars.

    I shouldn't have added fuel to that fire.


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    #60
    gormdubhgorm
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-50067203

    amazing really how this can result in someone being essentially forced out of their job.

    "Come as your favourite musical icon"
    "Cool, I love Run DMC plus they have a distinctive style, I'll go as one of them"

    ****7 years later****

    RACIST!!!!!!!!

    Trudeau really managed to weather his own storm. Sad that others cant.

    The Diceman in Dublin was lucky he only did 'whiteface'
    Thom_McGinty_TheDiceman_DublinStreetPerformer.jpg

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #61
    alchemist33
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    RobbingBandit wrote: »
    You might want to change the thread title he dressed up as a member of Run DMC.

    Just for contextual sense and all that

    Indeed. He dressed as a band he liked. He works in the music industry. How could anyone with any sense be offended by that?


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