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Would you agree to 80% income tax if everything was free?

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  • #152
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    So for us to have the same as Germany



    1. first you need to kill a huge portion of the population

    2. take ownership of the land

    3. then get other countries to pay for the new buildings.


    I've put into bullet points for ease of us in the business plan.


  • #153
    Agent Smith
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    Newuseruntaken wrote: »
    Obviously not everything being free, but the big ticket items like healthcare, education, transport, childcare, property tax, motor tax, tv licenses, bin charges etc.

    Also you would only have to work 4 days a week.

    The 80% tax would be on all income regardless of what you earn. Other taxes like Prsi and usc would be scrapped.

    Scrapping all the indirect taxes and charges and simply having one easy to calculate tax would mean the state could make massive efficiency gains by getting rid of a ton of paper pushing public sector employees.

    The state would have tens of billions extra each year to spend on hospitals, better public transport etc.

    Would you go for it? I think I would.

    Yeah that's going to be a no for me comrade....


  • #154
    twinytwo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,344 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    Newuseruntaken wrote: »
    All communist systems to date weren’t true communist systems, they were corrupt and broken systems so you can’t point to them and say it doesn’t work

    Eh.. everything would work if it wasn't for corruption. But it's human nature so everything remains broken.

    Just look at the Chinese president. Officially only gets his salary nothing is ever in his name...but most of his family have become multimillonares....


  • #155
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    twinytwo wrote: »
    Eh.. everything would work if it wasn't for corruption. But it's human nature so everything remains broken.

    Just look at the Chinese president. Officially only gets his salary nothing is ever in his name...but most of his family have become multimillonares....

    But, we'd do it differently :o :rolleyes:

    In fairness, I'd hazard a guess at the OPs age and assume the old adage applies... If you're not a socialist in your 20s you've no heart, if you still are in your 30s/40s you've no brain.


  • #156
    tjhook
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭tjhook


    I'm slightly curious about our new "glorious leader". I wonder if he has a crazy haircut and smart little uniform?

    If these plans to create the "workers' utpopia" were put in place, I can't see any workers being better off. I'm already turning down overtime because it's not worthwhile after 52% tax. And I imagine the more skilled/in-demand you are, the worse off you'll be. Anybody sensible with valuable skills will leave. We can't have that. So we'd need to ban all foreign travel. Build a wall. Put armed guards on it. Teach those guards a funny march.

    On the bright side, I see a business opportunity selling Levis out of a suitcase. Maybe the mullet will become the height of fashion again?

    When it all collapses after a month, we can get David Hasselhoff to come over and put on a concert!


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  • #157
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    tjhook wrote: »
    I'm slightly curious about our new "glorious leader". I wonder if he has a crazy haircut and smart little uniform?

    If these plans to create the "workers' utpopia" were put in place, I can't see any workers being better off. I'm already turning down overtime because it's not worthwhile after 52% tax. And I imagine the more skilled/in-demand you are, the worse off you'll be. Anybody sensible with valuable skills will leave. We can't have that. So we'd need to ban all foreign travel. Build a wall. Put armed guards on it. Teach those guards a funny march.

    On the bright side, I see a business opportunity selling Levis out of a suitcase. Maybe the mullet will become the height of fashion again?

    When it all collapses after a month, we can get David Hasselhoff to come over and put on a concert!

    Shur it’ll be a utopia, this time it will work. Just trust the true believers.


  • #158
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Newuseruntaken wrote: »
    Because you would only have to work 4 days a week instead of 5.
    Because there mould be bullet trains between cities.
    Because we would have a much better health system which you might be grateful for in the future.
    Because if you ever lost your job you would have good social protections in place.
    Because you would have a better house as the cost of housing would go down significantly if there was large scale social housing .

    I don’t mind working 5 days a week.

    I live in Donegal. We have no trains and even if the country were to become the richest on the planet we’d still be neglected and ignored.

    I pay private health insurance and I’m happy with the service I or my family have received so far.

    I am in the public service and can retire in 8 years, I’ll take my chances.

    I have a lovely big house in the country, it has everything me and my family need, I don’t want another house or to have to move elsewhere.

    So you’ve don’t nothing to convince me it would benefit me in any way shape or form. I’d be worse off so no thanks, shove it.


  • #159
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭screamer


    No.... why not? Cause only the working person will be treated that way. The system and fat cats will gorge themselves, more money needed then for them and the spongers.... 80% will become 82. May as well just knock at your local spongers door on a Friday evening after a hard weeks work and hand them over your pay....


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